Computer shuts down randomly: power issue?

Lexender

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Hello!

So my computer is getting quite old, and has been acting up for the better part of the year.

The symptoms, precisely, is that it sometimes shuts down for no good reason, and without any kind of signal. I have seen it shutting down abruptly, as if the reset button was pressed, and sometimes as if I had "properly" shut it down through the Windows command.

The annoying part is this: after shutting down, nothing but pure luck seems to get the computer running again. Sometimes it works straight away, sometimes I have to manually power it up and down 10, 20, 100 times. Letting it rest for short or prolonged periods doesn’t seem to affect the process. It seems, to me at least, absolutely random.

When it does boot, though, everything works as expected. Since this is a gaming and work computer, I had to resort to keeping the computer running as long as possible in-between crashes (that might be separated by hours or days). I know it is a bad habit, but I was out of (free) options.

After reading quite a lot on the subject, and performing the usual tests (removing / swapping ram, unplugging everything non-critical as I don’t have any spare parts I can use), I have come to the conclusion that this was most likely a power issue; and power issues break stuff, so they’re not fun.

As I understand, the two most likely culprits would be the power supply unit and the motherboard. I’m thinking of replacing parts, now, but since I have a low budget, I was hoping I could do it in steps, upgrading my machine in the process.

As I understand it, replacing the PSU is a pretty straightforward procedure. But my Corsair 520W sounded pretty durable when I bought it (long ago), so I feel like the problem is elsewhere.

Replacing the MoBo looks more complex. My pieces are old, so I would most likely need to change my CPU and RAM as well. I feel as though it would be more helpful, though.

So what do you guys think about all of this? Am I completely wrong?

If replacements are in order, I was thinking of going along the lines of the 600$ computer presented in this article: http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200

What I read about the pieces suggest they are reliable and, generally, good deals, especially for someone like me who doesn’t need a top-of-the-line machine; the end-goal would be to change the whole thing over a year or so.

My current machine, as I recall, is this:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
GPU: Radeon HD4850
MoBo: Really cannot remember. Relevant?
RAM: 2 x 1gb, 1x 2gb. Can’t remember the brand.
PSU: Corsair HX520W

Thanks for the help.
 
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Mobo is very relevant. Have you tried OS reinstalling? If that didn't work, then it is either the PSU or the mobo. Swap in another PSU. If the problem still occurs, it's a bad mobo, and needs to be replaced.

As for the 600 Lifehacker build, the CX series PSU's are garbage. Get a Seasonic, EVGA, Silverstone, or XFX PSU's. They are the best of the best of the best of the best... The CPU/Mobo combo isn't too good as the AM3+ has no future. It would be wise to switch to LGA 1150 and get an i3 or i5 and have an upgrade path with future support.

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Mobo is very relevant. Have you tried OS reinstalling? If that didn't work, then it is either the PSU or the mobo. Swap in another PSU. If the problem still occurs, it's a bad mobo, and needs to be replaced.

As for the 600 Lifehacker build, the CX series PSU's are garbage. Get a Seasonic, EVGA, Silverstone, or XFX PSU's. They are the best of the best of the best of the best... The CPU/Mobo combo isn't too good as the AM3+ has no future. It would be wise to switch to LGA 1150 and get an i3 or i5 and have an upgrade path with future support.
 
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spladam

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It won't hurt you to buy some compressed air and clean out your case, heatsinks, fans, and mother board surface if you have not done this already. If you do install some sensor monitoring programs (I mostly use MSI Afterburner and HWiNFO 64, as they work well together and have handy OSD features) then remember to have them log to a file when you are testing and running hard, as you might not get to read what they say before you crash.

I see lots of people quoting that Life-Hacker article and though it's old, it has some good suggestions. However, the price of the Ivy Bridge 22nm CPU's have gone down in price a bit, and the FX chips are starting to loose all relevance in gaming (I should know, I have one and probably never going with AMD again). The 6300 and 8350 are still ok budget build CPU's, especially if you need your cpu for other task like video rendering and such, but they are loosing their bang-for-the-buck value due to Intel price drops.

Last, stopping by your local PC shop and picking up a $10 tube of good thermal paste (they probably have the arctic silver) and slapping a fresh thin coat on the heat spreader (some paste wear out after years of heat) can solve heat issues, which manifest as other issues. You can use the same tube for your new build as well when you decide to pull the trigger on it. Diagnosing power issues are a little tougher, so check to see if it's not the heat first.

The max temp for your Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 is 72.4*C, although this is a generic temp often quoted by Intel for the Wolfdale E series core 2's, and you want an operating margin there, so like djett427 said, you don't want to see over 65* normally.

Good luck, let us know how we can help.