AMD FX CPUs

is your current cpu a 1090t

Just the FX-6300 exceeds 7000inr on Flipkart. It's not possible to do an FX chip, motherboard and RAM with that budget.


And as coolcole was going to say, I think, if you have the 1090t CPU, moving to the 6300 isn't going to net you any noticeable improvement over your current CPU. You'd need to move to an 8 core FX chip for that. Even then it might not be worth the investment.

If you have a different model, it may be a different story.

Actually, for what you're doing, the FX-6300 isn't going to offer you a significant improvement for your investment over the CPU you have now. I'd recommend AT LEAST going with an AMD FX 8 core chip, but if you are firm on going with a six core, then this would be a much better option since the 6350 has a faster stock clock and more onboard cache than the 6300:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

Look at my signature. I'm running an 8320@4.5Ghz and I have NO heat issues. ZERO. Of course, I have a very good CPU cooler and a excellent case cooling as well, but plenty of people use FX chips with aftermarket coolers and stock case cooling without issue. The build I posted above would work fine, but an 8 core would probably be a bit better for the video editing and any high end graphics applications.

I can recommend a very good total build if you want. What would your total budget be and what components (Model numbers please) do you already have that you do not feel need to be replaced and can be reused. The CX series PSU, which I generally recommend replacing as they don't hold up under use with aftermarket gaming cards, probably isn't an issue in your case since you're apparently not gaming. I'm assuming you do have an aftermarket GPU though, yes? Otherwise you'll need one as none of the decent AM3+ boards, aside from the GA-78LMT-USB3, which is not good for FX 8 core, have integrated graphics.

What is the model numbers of your current case and graphics card?

I gotta be honest, that's probably the second worst case Cooler Master makes, I'd highly recommend using a different case that has enough fan locations to supply the CPU cooler with fresh air AND expel heated air at a rate that allow a good exchange. A single exhaust fan is not sufficient for any 125w or higher TDP chip, especially with the ambient temperatures likely in your locality, unless I'm wrong about your region. I'm assuming you're in India or thereabouts, and that it's fairly warm there most of the year. Is that about right?

What kind of budget can you muster up for the entire build? This would help to determine the best parts without going crazy on hardware beyond your means.

If you're really worried about heat issues get one of the 95W 8-Cores like the FX 8300/8310/8320e/8370e

Also there is no difference in 'onboard' cache with the 6300 vs 6350. Only stock clocks/voltage.

I believe the CM Hyper 212 Evo is capable of cooling up to 180W TDP. The FX 8370E is a 95W so it should be no problem. You'll probably be able to do a light overclock (4.4-4.5GHz) and the 212 Evo should still be able to cool it somewhat but start of with stock speeds. Just make sure when you buy a new motherboard make sure it supports the 8370E. Depending on if the BIOS that comes installed in your motherboard you may need a older AM3/AM3+ CPU to update the BIOS before being able to use the 8370E. You already have a Phenom II so it's not a big thing to worry about.

This depends on what you want/need from your motherboard. Biggest thing is if you want to crossfire in the future you want to go with the 990X/990FX chipset. Otherwise it all depends on how much USB 2.0/3.0 slots, SATA II/III ports, etc you want. Obviously 970 is cheapest with 990FX being the more expensive motherboards. Another reason why people tend to want to go with 990X/990FX is due to manufacturers tending to use better VRM/Power Delivery on the higher end chipsets. You want an 8+2 Power Delivery design for best OC ability and less heat issues with AMD (Intel too but they have higher power delivery designs than 8+2). Two of the best performance/dollar motherboards I would recommend for AM3+ is MSI 970 Gaming and Gigabyte 970A-UD3P. MSI 970 is newer but has a 6+2 power delivery and costs ~$100 USD. Gigabyte UD3P is a little older but has a stronger 8+2 power delivery and it's approximately $10+ cheaper.

If you have no interest in crossfiring GPUs than look at the two 970 motherboards I mentioned. Otherwise look at Asus Sabertooth motherboard, a favorite for a lot of AM3+ CPU users

I was pretty sure you were wrong about that as I know I read an article or spec sheet while doing research for the Piledriver Megathread that indicated the 4350 and 6350 had received a bump in onboard cache over the 4300 and 6300, however, after taking another look at the specs and not being able to find that article again, I'm afraid I have to stand corrected on that particular issue. Nice call, I don't like to be wrong but I'm also not afraid to admit it when I am. Don't think it's a bigger deal than it is though, everybody gets it wrong once in a while.

I know I had seen that somewhere though and when I find it I'm going to address whoever wrote it. Heh. Somebody has to take the fall for me having to recant. JK.

Here's the other thing, since you don't plan to game, there is practically no benefit to ever adding a second graphics card. For the tasks you want to do it would be better to either simply use the single best gaming card you can afford, OR, get a good workstation card designed for working with graphics and video applications.


Personally, I've heard for the longest time from most the designers I work with and those who come through the forums that they've really seen no difference between the high end gaming cards these days and the majority of workstation cards, except in cases of VERY high end applications that require cards with specific drivers available designed for ONLY that application. I've only heard of a single instance where a member bought a high end gaming card and was unable to fully utilize one of his applications. IIRC it was due to the card being an AMD based GPU that didn't support CUDA which was needed for his application. This is likely an extremely rare circumstance, and again, I've only seen it the one time with an extremely high end professional application.


I'm sure there are some other issues that are possible, but unlikely. Anyhow, if you're not gaming, you don't need two cards. There is nothing about any graphics art or video editing application that would benefit from it so far as I know. Any GTX 970 or R9 290 would handle what you intend to do just fine. IF you want to go bigger, than you can go with an R9 290x. I wouldn't advise a GTX 980 as it's not worth it. You can get a fairly decent entry level workstation card for less than a 980.


To address the suggestion about overclocking, it pretty much defeats the purpose to get a 95w chip and then overclock it. You'll just end up with a CPU that's using the same amount of power as another FX chip does at a higher stock clock. Since the 8370E is only a 3.3Ghz chip, it will take a significant amount of voltage boost and multipler to stabilize it at a speed that offers any real benefit to using it over the chip he has now. You'd need to get to at least 4Ghz without boost to see any real world performance from that processor. Plus it's expensive, even here, and isn't even available in India at either Newegg India or Flipkart.


You could probably order it through Amazon, but the shipping would likely be outrageous and since it's about 195.00 on Amazon in the US, it makes no sense. Heck, you'd be much better off going with an Intel CPU if you're going to pay that much, which for what you plan to do, is probably a good idea anyhow. You'll get much better performance, both in single core performance AND threaded applications. I'll assemble a build with the budget you outlined and you can decide for yourself how you want to do it.


On another note, for future reference, the EVO really sucks for overclocked systems. It works, yeah, and it WILL allow a decent overclock in most cases, but with it's crappy mounting system and 120mm fan, it will be screaming anytime you have a significant load on the cpu, as it tries to keep things cool. It's better by far than a stock cooler, but it's definitely not for anything more than a small to medium-ish overclock on a system likely to run with the system under a high load a good amount of the time like on a gaming machine or one used for a lot of rendering, editing or streaming. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the EVO, it's good for what it is, which is a budget entry level cooler, but it's not going to keep up with more advanced configurations without being loud.

Is there an online vendor YOU prefer to order though? I generally recommend parts off Newegg India or Flipkart, but if you prefer another site I'll try to work with it instead.

No problem. Didn't think it was much of a big deal, just so that information that may not be correct is not believed. You are somewhat correct though about difference in L3 Cache in the FX processors. It seems the FX 4300 and 4320 only have 4MB of L3 Cache while the 4350 and every other FX CPU have 8MB.

As for suggesting the 95W variants I only did that because the OP was worried about going with an 8-Core vs a 95W 6-Core at the beginning of the thread. That and the fact the OP may buy a lower end motherboard. In that case the low end motherboard may only support 95W TDP CPUs max. But if the OP goes with the MSI 970 Gaming/Gigabyte 970A UD3P or any 990FX motherboard he has the ability to run 125W TDP variants like the 8320/8350/8370. Also in this case it doesn't matter which Vishera 8-Core the OP gets as long as it's the cheapest one. All 8-Cores will basically use the same amount of power at the same voltage/speeds. One positive about going with the 8370E/8320E is that those chips are a bit more refined and they actually achieve mid-level OCs (up to 4.5GHzish) with lower voltages than average 8320/8350 chips. 4GHz is low enough where the 8320E/8370E I have seen don't need as much voltages to run. But again it's all about the luck of the draw. All of this goes to waste when you try to OC north of 4.7/8GHz though.

Problem here is the OP is indeed located in India where prices isn't ideal. If OP was in the US with a Micro Center nearby they usually have the 8320E/8370E cheaper than all of the FX 8-Cores and Tiger Direct had the 95W 3.4GHz FX 8310 (OEM) for ~$80 when on sale/rebate.

I just saw that OP is not interested in gaming though. Not sure how much more Intel is more expensive in India but for design (if using Adobe programs) Intel CPUs may be better. AMD 8-Cores need to be OCed to at least ~4.6GHz to compete with the i3/i5s in some Illustrator, Aftereffect, Indesign, photoshop workloads. Which may nearly double the power consumption.

I know, I hate trying to build for these (Indian) guys. Not because of them, just because the hardware there is so expensive and their infrastructure is poor so it's usually difficult to get them any decent hardware for what they can afford. Even translated to US dollars, it's as bad or worse than an Australian build, which is pretty bad too when it comes to prices. For the prices they pay, we could build two similar systems here.

I mean seriously, two hundred bucks US for an R9 270.

I think the OP is going to have to up the budget just to get a decent single GPU, much less any kind of dual card system. Graphics cards are just phenomenally expensive in India whereas other hardware is just ridiculously expensive.

I'm looking at a Xeon E3 1231 v3 for him, which is actually right around the same price as a decent i5 on Newegg India, and as you know has eight threads instead of four with the same core performance as the i7, just no graphics. I generally recommend these for similar graphics workstations and even multi-purpose gaming rigs since they're much cheaper usually than an i7 but still have the outstanding core performance. The graphics card is killing me on the budget though.

Exactly. And the Xeon E3 is only an 80w chip, that doesn't need to be overclocked to spank an overclocked FX chip, so it would be perfect if I can get it to fit the budget somehow.

Yup. Thankful for decent if not cheapest pricing in the US. Even more thankful for second hand component prices and how they are readily available. That's how I got my FX 8350/Crosshair V Formula Z/R9 290/Corsair 600T for $400. With it overclocked to 4.9GHz I am happy with the improvements over the 860K and HD 7850. Once I build a custom loop I'll try even higher. Hope OP is able to build/upgrade his PC sometime.

Haha those Xeons are a wonder. FX 9590 was tempting just because of the 5GHz number and AMD is always tempting due to me being a fan. Intel is tempting due to their performance. I'm always tempted to buy a locked i5/xeon because of price/performance. But I have that one part of me that is saying 'No OC = No No'. Plus I want my next build to be the best possible to keep for a while. Meaning some sort of unlocked i7 build, 6-Core or 8-Core the more merrier. I'll try to make the 8350 last as long as possible (hopefully 2016).