Want to wipe SSD then reuse as OS boot in new build (complex issue)

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So, basically, in my current build I have an OCZ Vertex3 120GB SSD and a WD Blue Edition 1TB HDD.
I have the OS installed on the SSD along with the majority of all the programs I use frequently (such as Skype, Google Chrome, WoW, Spotify, etc).
The HDD I stupidly partitioned about a year ago after a fatal BSoD corrupted all the files on my SSD, and I didn't have a backup set up. I split it 50/50. The first 500GB are full of my Downloads folder, all of my lesser used programs such as Firefox, and all of my games on Steam.
The second 500GB I've managed to render useless because Windows seems to think it's not enough space to backup my SSD using Windows Backup and Restore, but in all of the failed attempts to back it up it's somehow chewed up 50GB of space that I'm unable to locate to delete. I have no idea how to unpartition the drive without wiping the other 500GB, and at this point I don't want to do that anyway.

I've started building a new PC, and bought myself a Samsung Evo 840 series 250GB SSD and a Seagate Barracuda 3TB HDD.

My goal at this point in order of events:
1. Wipe the unused 500GB of the failed backup.
2. Migrate all the files on my SSD onto it, so as to not lose them all.
3. Do a complete wipe of the SSD.
4. Put both the OCZ Vertex3 SSD and the WD Blue HDD into my new build alongside the new SSD and HDD.
5. Use my new Win7 install disk to do a fresh install of Win7 Home edition onto the OCZ SSD, which is pretty much what it would strictly be used for going forward. Hosting all the OS files and drivers and stuff.
6. Download WoW, Skype, Chrome, and any and all other programs/games I use/play frequently onto the Samsung SSD.
7. Migrate all my steam games from the old HDD onto the new HDD.
8. Utilise the first 500GB partition of my old HDD for my downloads folder and lesser used programs.
9. Utilise the second 500GB partition to hold all of my old SSD files so I can sort through them eventually.

(10. Buy an extra HDD to utilise as a backup, later on down the road when I have more money)

The problem that I know I have is the fact that whenever I try to migrate some folders it tells me that some files are in use and can't be moved, and stuff like that.

Basically I'm asking how I would do all of the above without corrupting or damaging anything at all, or fucking up my new build because of the remnants of corrupted program files on the SSD. (Note that the numerous "Repair from disc" attempts I've made have done nothing to fix this issue, so I've just left it as a write-off in terms of fixing it, hence the desire to do a complete wipe then reinstall).

Sorry for the long winded post, and any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.













 
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Buy the new hard drive. Copy the data that you want from the SSD to that drive. Then reformat the SSD & install Windows on the SSD.
Then move what you want to from the old hard drive to the new hard drive.
Then reformat the old hard drive. Then copy the new hard drive to the old reformatted drive. And finally reformat the new hard drive and you're done.

And partition the drives as you like in the reformatting process. Load the programs that you want to the SSD.
Buy the new hard drive. Copy the data that you want from the SSD to that drive. Then reformat the SSD & install Windows on the SSD.
Then move what you want to from the old hard drive to the new hard drive.
Then reformat the old hard drive. Then copy the new hard drive to the old reformatted drive. And finally reformat the new hard drive and you're done.

And partition the drives as you like in the reformatting process. Load the programs that you want to the SSD.
 
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Oh damn, that actually sounds like a really good solution. Thanks. Only thing is if I should put the new HDD into my old build and copy everything, or if it'd be fine to take the old SSD and HDD and put them in the new one and do it all there. Would it make a difference at all, in terms of all of the other hardware? Might be a stupid question, just that I've heard sometimes MoBos have an effect on installing OS's and stuff.
 

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Let's see if we can get this right without doing a ton-o-copying. Since you said 'stupidly made two 500gb partitions', I'm assuming if you could fix it you would.

1) Fix partitioning on 1TB.
Control panel -> Adminstrative tools -> Computer management -> Disk Management.

In the panel it should show the 1tb drive with two partitions. Select the empty partition, right click, delete volume, accept it etc. It should then show it as unallocated space. The other partition will still be there. Right click, 'extend partition' - fill it out all the way. This will turn the whole thing into a single 1TB partition

2) Migrate files from SSD.
Well, copy them over to the now single partitioned 1TB drive.

3) Wipe the SSD.
Easy enough. In 'my computer', right click, 'format drive'. Use whatever options are appropriate but quick format would probably be best.

Moving files over. Part of the problem is that you can't copy files that are in use on the drive while you've booted into windows. Just trying to select all the files and copy them over cannot be done that way. In other words, (assuming C: drive is boot drive, D: drive is secondary drive) - you can't start windows, then just select everything on C, and copy it to D. Windows has special files which while Windows is active, cannot be copied because they're 'live'. What you would have to do is boot into something like a live Linux thumbdrive/CD, mount the drives, then you could copy everything on C to D (because you're running an OS from something OTHER than C).. get it?

The other choice is to just install Win7 to the Samsung 840, THEN put the other drives in and copy things where you want to. I'm not sure why you're making it that complicated. Get your new build up and running right, THEN worry about rescuing the files. The 840 is a wicked fast drive and would be a great boot drive for a nice new build.
 

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Alright, perfect. Thanks. :)



Ah, so extending the partition won't wipe the contents from it? I was under a misunderstanding then, cos I had read somewhere that it would. That's handy to know then. Thanks :)

And simply reformatting a drive does a complete wipe of it? So if I did that to the SSD, would that instantly just kill the computer, as it'd remove the OS files? Then I'd have to boot from disc and do the fresh install immediately?

I'm not overly worried about saving the system files at all, just my libraries and my programs + settings. If they'll be fine without copying the entire drive, then I'm not worried. Just not sure about how settings are saved for some programs and the like.

The reason I don't want to put the OS files on the 250GB SSD is because with 2 SSDs I'd rather have the smaller one dedicated to OS files and the larger one dedicated to games and programs I frequently use. Otherwise the Larger SSD is just 1/2 consumed by OS files and then I have my programs and games split between two different SSDs, which is just a pain in the ass. I'm not all that worried about boot speed, since it's still super fast on the 120GB SSD as it is.