Why is that when I go into low settings and low res in bf4 I get no frame boost?

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Look at these http://gyazo.com/ef620fd198d3684df4fefed3e6ba304b that's ultra
that's low http://gyazo.com/6b9a320fc3e346c9fc13e0819b46df72
My rig
gpu = r9 270x overclocked to 1110 MHz
apu = oberclocked to 3.5 GHz
ram = 8 gigs
psu = 600w

So i really want to play bf4 at stable frames and i just can't understand why my fps doesn't
change (maybe a 5 fps boost) even if i go the lowest res i can even then my fps doesn't get any boost. I watched some youtube videos and showed benchmarks of them getting 50 fps average on ultra and high was at 69 fps. Please help and thanks in advance :) Is it my apu btw the gpu on my apu are disabled..also running mantle
 
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That CPU is the same one I recommended. It would work out great.

The motherboard you listed is a pretty cheap Z97 motherboard. You don't need Z97 (since it's mostly for overclocking and multi-card systems), and there are more feature-packed boards out there at similar prices. This is the one I recommended.
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Not at all. The GPU is not being the limit to your performance, it's the CPU. If you underclock your GPU, all you can achieve is to make your GPU weak enough that it becomes the limiting factor, so your performance becomes even lower. The best and pretty much only way to get better performance is to get a new CPU. You can also try more overclocking on the CPU, but it doesn't tend to help quite as much.
 
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I do not play BF4, but I am very well aware of what Mantle is. Unfortunately, it still cannot do miracles, and CPU limits will still exist. If you want to test this, you can change to DirectX for a bit to see the performance, and it should be even more CPU limited, lowering your performance.

You can keep OCing the GPU, but as long as the CPU keeps limiting you, frame rates won't go up that much, unfortunately. Some parts of the game where the CPU is not as loaded will run better, but most of BF4 does like to chew up CPU resources.

That CPU would not be a bad upgrade for BF4, since it likes the extra cores. However, if you have an APU right now, it is probably in the FM2/FM2+ socket, while the 8350 is an AM3+ socket CPU, so it may not be compatible. Check your motherboard to see if it supports the CPU before buying anything.
 
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What CPU are you using? What you are describing basically means your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU. A 270X is only able to acheive an average FPS of ~35 when paired with a i7 processor. So a weaker processor means lower FPS. Another note is that on Techspot they show DX11 performing better than Mantle for some reason. For example DX11 with 8350 + 290X shows ~96FPS but Mantle with exact hardware shows 56FPS at the same resolution/setting/hardware.

Until you provide info on what CPU you are using we can't really take a good guess on what the issue is. A weaker AMD CPU will lead to lower FPS on a capable GPU compared to Intel, even on lower issues due to bottlenecking. Additionally CPUs with weaker single core IPC (AMD) tend to struggle even more when playing online matches.

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nevermind I see you have some sort of 3.5GHz APU. Question is now is it Quad-Core or Dual-Core and what generation

Also like Epsilon says it's an APU so there is no way the 8350 or any other AM3+ CPU will work with your current motherboard. You have either a FM1 or FM2/FM2+ motherboard and if you have a Quad-Core Trinity/Richland/Kaveri CPU than there is nothing worth upgrading in the motherboard you have. Your only choice is to upgrade to Intel platform or AMD AM3+ platform
 
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You see i got a hp desktop from bestbuy...lol and i was just thinking to do casual gaming such as tf2, but now i'm trying to rebuild it into a gaming pc. Look at this case and would you recommend it? http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Commander-Mid-Tower-Chassis-CA-1B4-00M1WN-00/dp/B00J0NZ7WO/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1426120520&sr=1-3&keywords=thermaltake+commander Here's the motherboard also http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 
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I just checked the video. The video uploader is using a i7 3770K. Unlocked i7 CPUs cost $300+ when released/new while the APU you have probably doesn't even cost half of that new. You can't directly compare CPUs of different brand just by their speed (MHz). An i7 at 2.5GHz will outperform your CPU even if it was 5GHz+.

What I'm getting at is that video guy has a great CPU that will not bottleneck a R9 270(x). One example an i7 with a 295x2 will get ~200FPS. Pair the same 295x2 with an FX 4100/4300 (similar to your APU) it will only get 70-100FPS on the same quality settings.

You'll need a CPU/Mobo upgrade
 
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Yes, the CPU is the difference. He uses an i7-3770K, which has much stronger cores than an A8, even at lower clocks. So his card is not limited by the CPU, and this is why he gets better performance.

That case will probably work well, as long as it can hold all the parts you want. It's a bit flashy for my taste, but it works :) The motherboard is also not a bad choice, and it does have official support for the 8350, so it will work with it for sure. What other parts were you thinking of getting?
 
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Motherboard is a pretty good choice. The 970 Gaming is the newest AM3+ motherboard w/ 6+2 Power Phase Delivery. Another motherboard you should look at is Gigabyte's 970A-UD3P. It's cheaper and has a better power delivery (8+2) so you have a higher OC potential.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651&cm_re=ud3p-_-13-128-651-_-Product

As far as PC case it's all up to preference. The best for performance is the cheapest/sturdy case that has lots of room for fan expansion and wire management. The case should be fine.
 
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Yep, I built my own computer, and a few more. Any questions you have I can try to answer, and I'm sure many others here can help too :)

What are you measuring the clock rate of the CPU with to determine it's not hitting 3.7GHz? Remember it's not designed to always run at that speed, just in special circumstances where the situation allows it.

I would also not recommend a Kingston SSD. They're very well-priced, but I prefer getting SSD's from slightly better manufacturers, since they do wear a bit faster than traditional hard drives. I prefer Crucial or Samsung, although you will need to save up a bit more to get their SSD's in most cases.
 
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