First time builder. I need advice if this build is good.

tniemirski · Mar 15, 2015

So here are the parts that im looking at just need advice on if this is a decent build, if there is somthing im missing or if im mixing up parts. I have put a computer together but when it comes to buying the parts im not the smartest tool in the shell.

Power Supply 99.99 CAD
Corsair CX Series CX750 750W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply Active PFC Fan 120mm Fan
http://www.ncix.com/detail/-75728.htm

Motherboard 184.99 CAD
ASUS Z97-A ATX LGA1150 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 HDMI Motherboard
http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-z97-a-atx-lga1150-ddr3-4a-97021.htm

Processor 269.99 CAD
Intel Core i5 I5-4690 Haswell 3.5GHZ Processor LGA1150 6MB Cache Retail
http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-core-i5-i5-4690-haswell-c2-96201-1088.htm

Ram 75.99 CAD
GeIL EVO Potenza 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 PC3-12800 1.5V Memory Kit - Onyx Black
http://www.ncix.com/detail/geil-evo-potenza-8gb-2x4gb-a7-105397-1382.htm

Video Card 239.99 CAD
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 OC Wf 1279MHZ 2GB 7.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI 3XDISPLAYPORT PCI-E Video Card
http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-960-oc-2c-105119-1088.htm

Case 89.99 CAD (Benifix) 48.99 CAD (Logisys)
I have here 2 options im not sure which work best
Bitfenix Shadow Black ATX Case Window 3X5.25IN 7X3.5IN Red/Blue LED USB3.0 HD Audio Black *No PSU*
http://www.ncix.com/detail/bitfenix-shadow-black-atx-case-6e-104220-1382.htm

Logisys CS369BK ATX TOOL-LESS Gaming Case 480W Dual Fan Power Supply Water Cooling Ready - Black
http://www.ncix.com/detail/logisys-cs369bk-atx-tool-less-gaming-c9-97104-1382.htm

All together i am looking at around 1000$ for the rig. I would like to say that i do want to build a pc that can handle playing games pretty nicely. I think whats most important to me is for it to run smoothly > It looking absolutly gorgeous but hey if i can get both why not. Games would include World of warcraft and league of legends. If i can get any advice on if this can work or if there is somthing better out there for a better price then that would be fantastic. I would like to stay though around the 1000 range plus minus 100 dollars. If i can be even less then great and i would like for the computer to be able to handle most things for the next 2-3 years at least.

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

The i5 4460 is cheaper, and you are unlikely to notice the difference, a H97 motherboard would do. Do you need WiFi, or Bluetooth?

The Corsair is a good entry-level PSU, but I would try something a little better.

The XFX p1 550 would be plenty for your needs and a lot cheaper, and the EVGA B2 750 is better, somewhat cheaper and semi-modular which will help your build.

You do not need more than 450W or so for the build you have put together.

tniemirski · Mar 15, 2015

Wifi and Bluetooth are not needed. The pc is going to be located right next to the router. But that being said Wifi i think at some point would be need i think but for that i believe that i can buy an adapter to just plug in.

Bossyfins · Mar 15, 2015

DonkeyOatie :

Actually, it shouldn't even be considered in my opinion. A FSP 750 watt beat the cx is many tests....

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

tniemirski :

You can, or a pci-e card. The ASRock H97-ITX/ac board (the one in my system) costs $119 and includes WiFi/Bluetooth.

A compact mini-ITX system would work for your components. (I like compact systems)
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2328703/build-log-mini-itx-middle-school.html

you have a Z97 board which is used for overclocking or SLI, but do not appear to be doing either of these things.

sizzling · Mar 15, 2015

As suggested a 4460 and H97 board are cheaper and you wouldn't notice the difference but if this saving allows you to get a 970 instead of a 960 that would be a big step up.

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

Bossyfins :

I happen to agree with you, but choose to use gentler language. The CX is an OK tier 3 unit and the OP is not going to do anything extreme with it.. However, as I pointed out, they can get much better, cheaper units.

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

This is the sort of thing we are talking about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.50 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($389.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $958.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-15 12:41 EDT-0400

Still needs some bits like OS, screen, keyboard/mouse.

Memory is CAS 9, so costs a little more.

tniemirski · Mar 15, 2015

I think for the most part that what i was most confused on. Im not familiar with what power supplies so i needed tons of help on that. That being said, im also confused on what kind of case i would need. From what im guessing most cases will work but i guess there are certain cases that can only first certain parts?

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

tniemirski :

Go to PCPartPicker.com and set your nation to Canada and the sandbox your system. It will warn you if the parts don't fit properly (most of the time),

The XFX I suggested is very good and will power everything you have.
The motherboard has many features that you do not appear to need. You can save a lot there.
The CPU can be made a little slower for a modest saving.
Your RAM has a high latency (CAS11). I would want CAS 9 or better for faster speed.
For a Gaming system like this, the limiting factor is nearly always the GPU. Our object in tuning your system is to get the best possible GPU, you can't quite afford

. In this case, our target should be to save about $160 to afford a GTX970 if at all possible.
By selecting a mATX motherboard, you have maximum case flexibility.
Find a cheap case that is well reviewed and that you like the look of.

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

tea urchin :

tniemirski :

For an ATX board, you need an ATX compatible case, usually 'mid tower' or similar. Full towers are just bigger versions.
If the case is only m(micro) ATX,
Shown as mATX, you need an mATX board,like a H97m-plus (note the m in there)

'm' atx boards will fit in full ATX cases but full ATX boards will not fit in mATX cases.

If you are not buying a 'Z' board (that can run 2 or 3 graphics cards) there is 'bxgger all' difference between using a mATX board, or the full size ATX board,except with mATX you can have a niftier smaller box.

Even with 2 x SLI/crossfire there is still a lot to be said for mATX.

DonkeyOatie · Mar 15, 2015

Not with the Maxwells. Two of them are the same as a single 290 or 290x. An mATX can handle 300W of GPU, with decent fans and cable management.

tniemirski · Mar 15, 2015

is there a big difference between the 960 and the 970?

tniemirski · Mar 15, 2015

Oh i see. Then i think i will just grab that one. Well thanks you guys for the information and advice i think i have a real good idea at what im going to get. i will update if there is any other questions i have but you guys have helped out more than enough. Thank you

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