its worth hd 7970 for next gen games

senere · Mar 16, 2015

Hello , currently i was sold my gtx 660 and i want to buy a hd 7970 ghz , its worth for next gen games?
i have i5 3470
8gb ram
550 w sirtec high power eco 2
and i have a 120hz monitor

Rowdyrauderson · Mar 16, 2015

You probably wont be playing any next gen games, or current for that matter, at 120 fps with that card. Unless you are turning the settings way down or running games at 720.

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

It will be a fair amount faster than the GPU you replaced: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/768?vs=783

You should be fine for 1080p decent settings in most games for a year or two yet.

Rowdyrauderson · Mar 16, 2015

Just as a point of reference, I have a 780 (water cooled with a 28% overclock) and an i5 3570k at 5.0Ghz. In order to get the most out of my 120hz monitor, I have to run BF4 at 1080p on medium settings with AA turned off (multiplayer).
So, if you really want to get the best use of your 120hz monitor investment, do not pair it with a 7970.

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

Rowdyrauderson :

Just because he has a 120hz monitor does not mean he has to drive 120fps, lol. It just means he won't get screen tearing until he goes above 120fps. There are lots of people out there that have 60hz monitors that can't get 60fps in games with their setups.

Undying89 · Mar 16, 2015

7970 aka 280X is still a great card. It have more vram than gtx770/960 and performance wise its about the same.

Rowdyrauderson · Mar 16, 2015

sincreator :

So you substitute tearing for ghosting. Either way wouldn't the ideal situation be to drive a game at above 120fps, have a 120hz monitor and enable vsync? All I am saying is that in order to get the most out of that monitor, it would be silly to upgrade to a video card that is soon to be 2 generations old.

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

Rowdyrauderson :

Ghosting is mostly caused by the overall response time of the monitor not the FPS displayed. If a monitor is 8ms response time it wouldn't matter if you were running 60hz or 120hz, it will have ghosting. The lower the response time the less likely ghosting is to occur. From my experience anything lower than 2ms won't have a ghosting issue. Even with 4ms response time, it is hard to see ghosting.

I'm not disagreeing with what you say as such, just that pushing 120fps on a 120hz monitor is not necessary at all to have a good experience. I also know that the higher the frame rate the lower the response time as well, but really we are talking micro seconds that most people wouldn't even notice at all. The card he is looking to upgrade to is vastly superior to the card he just sold, so it is NOT a waste, or silly as you suggest. Either way it is a huge upgrade and would drive his 120hz monitor a lot better than his older GTX660 did.

senere · Mar 16, 2015

if you are talking about this i have a question
when my hd 7970 arrive in catactlyst should i put vsync on/off or adaptive ?

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

senere :

You could just leave it off since you will not experience screen tearing until after 120fps anyway. As long as you keep your FPS under the 120 mark you will be fine. If you have a game that goes over 120fps, then you can either enable v-sync, or raise the quality settings until you're under the 120fps mark.

senere · Mar 16, 2015

on my gtx 660 i was put vsync on and , and on h1z1 was goes smoother , im playing only h1z1 , dota2 and csgo but when my hd 7970 ghz will arrive i think i will play bf4 and more games which requires a good graphics card

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

senere :

There is no harm in having it turned on either way. V-sync will cap you at 120fps max, and for games under 120fps it won't matter if it's on or not.

senere · Mar 16, 2015

ok , so when i got my hd 7970 on catalyst should i put vsync off , right ?

sincreator · Mar 16, 2015

senere :

Like I said in my last post, you can just turn it on and leave it. Then you will be good for all games, no matter what the frame rate is.

Rowdyrauderson · Mar 17, 2015

sincreator :

Rowdyrauderson :

Ghosting is mostly caused by the overall response time of the monitor not the FPS displayed. If a monitor is 8ms response time it wouldn't matter if you were running 60hz or 120hz, it will have ghosting. The lower the response time the less likely ghosting is to occur. From my experience anything lower than 2ms won't have a ghosting issue. Even with 4ms response time, it is hard to see ghosting.

I'm not disagreeing with what you say as such, just that pushing 120fps on a 120hz monitor is not necessary at all to have a good experience. I also know that the higher the frame rate the lower the response time as well, but really we are talking micro seconds that most people wouldn't even notice at all. The card he is looking to upgrade to is vastly superior to the card he just sold, so it is NOT a waste, or silly as you suggest. Either way it is a huge upgrade and would drive his 120hz monitor a lot better than his older GTX660 did.

I only meant that it was silly based off the budgeting discrepancy. Last time I checked, 120hz monitors were at least $300USD. I would imagine that for gaming, you would spend more on a video card than the monitor. I have a 144hz monitor and I can tell you there is a difference. It is very noticeable. The waste is spending money on this card and not getting anything out of your $300+ investment because all your games run under 60fps. I understand where you are coming from, but I am just trying to warn the OP before he buys something he will regret in a couple of months.

sincreator · Mar 17, 2015

Rowdyrauderson :

sincreator :

I only meant that it was silly based off the budgeting discrepancy. Last time I checked, 120hz monitors were at least $300USD. I would imagine that for gaming, you would spend more on a video card than the monitor. I have a 144hz monitor and I can tell you there is a difference. It is very noticeable. The waste is spending money on this card and not getting anything out of your $300+ investment because all your games run under 60fps. I understand where you are coming from, but I am just trying to warn the OP before he buys something he will regret in a couple of months.

I doubt very much he will regret an upgrade of this caliber, lol. Did you even look at the comparison of the GTX660 vs HD7970ghz that I posted? When it comes to computers people do different things all the time. How do you know how much he paid? He didn't state that at all. Who knows maybe he got it used, or on a boxing day sale or something. Maybe he just figured it was a good idea to get a better monitor for the future instead of buying a 60hz monitor and then having to purchase another monitor down the road for 120hz gaming. You really need to think outside the box when giving hardware advice.

Embra · Mar 17, 2015

I am sure the OP is trying to say within a budget. I agree the 7970 would be a worthy upgrade from his previous card.

Rowdyrauderson · Mar 17, 2015

sincreator :

Rowdyrauderson :

I doubt very much he will regret an upgrade of this caliber, lol. Did you even look at the comparison of the GTX660 vs HD7970ghz that I posted? When it comes to computers people do different things all the time. How do you know how much he paid? He didn't state that at all. Who knows maybe he got it used, or on a boxing day sale or something. Maybe he just figured it was a good idea to get a better monitor for the future instead of buying a 60hz monitor and then having to purchase another monitor down the road for 120hz gaming. You really need to think outside the box when giving hardware advice.

Think outside the box? I'm no Dr. House of computer diagnosis

I was just going off what the OP said. He wants to buy a 7970. I know the upgrade is huge but its like upgrading to be the world tallest midget, yes its an upgrade, but is it worth it? My opinion is no. I would take that money he is putting towards the card and wait for the new R9 series.

Embra · Mar 17, 2015

^ I am assuming he is without a gpu since he sold his 660. I would agree on waiting as well, unless he needs a card now. New 3xx are 2-3 months away.

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