Idle temp over 70-90C and load temp with prime95 over 120C

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A8-6600K APU w/ amd 8570d
stock amd cooler
asrock motherboard
His r9 280x
raidmax 635W PSU
2x4GB corsair Memory

So, i'm having this problem when i play games and then suddenly my pc restarts randomly. i suspected the memory.. so i used only one of them and swap it still no result.. then i suspected my gpu, but i previously using asus 7790 when the problem exist, i used the onboard amd 8570d gpu, still no changes. then i upgraded my gpu to r9 280x still nothing changes. i didn't really know that my cpu was overheating. so i downloaded coretemp. it seems that coretemp is wrong that my idle temp is about 30-40C but then i checked the temp on my bios it's reaching 70C in there. so i downloaded hwmonitor which might telling the truth.. hwmonitor said that my idle temp is over 80-100C. Then i test my cpu with prime95 and then the temp was reaching 118C. btw i just reapplied the thermal paste with cooler master icefusion thermal paste but still nothing changes
i don't know for sure that my psu isn't causing my pc to restart when playing games.. but i need to see to it after my overheating issue is solved



please anyone help me.. i can't play games peacefully with this problem still occuring

sorry for my bad english
 
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Are you overclocking the CPU? It sounds to me like either you don't have enough case cooling from the case fans or you don't have the CPU cooler pasted correctly, or the cooler isn't mounted right. Are you sure all the case fans are facing the correct directions and that the CPU fan is installed to blow down instead of up?

How much thermal paste did you use?

And you ABSOLUTELY need to get that Raidmax PSU OUT of your system before it destroys your hardware. I'm not exaggerating either. Raidmax PSUs are seriously crappy.

Are the case fans and CPU fan even running correctly? At those temps, they should sound like a room fan on high.
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Are you overclocking the CPU? It sounds to me like either you don't have enough case cooling from the case fans or you don't have the CPU cooler pasted correctly, or the cooler isn't mounted right. Are you sure all the case fans are facing the correct directions and that the CPU fan is installed to blow down instead of up?

How much thermal paste did you use?

And you ABSOLUTELY need to get that Raidmax PSU OUT of your system before it destroys your hardware. I'm not exaggerating either. Raidmax PSUs are seriously crappy.

Are the case fans and CPU fan even running correctly? At those temps, they should sound like a room fan on high.
 
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I'm not overclocking my cpu
i dont think i dont have enough case fans because i have armaggeddon megatron t5 which has a lot of fans..
what do you mean that the cpu cooler to blow up? I think every cpu cooler faces down to the cpu..

I applied the thermal paste in top of the processor fully covered and also under the heatsink too

I dont really have the money to buy another psu maybe later...

I dont really know if the case fans and the cpu fans are installed incorrectly.. i already reapplied the thermal paste (again) on the heatsink still nothing changes

Btw, thank you for your solution
 
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Then you put WAY too much thermal paste, which is probably the issue. You're only suppose to put a TINY amount, like the amount of a grain of uncooked rice, to ONLY the top of the processor lid. If you completely covered the top of the cpu AND the bottom of the heatsink, you probably have thermal paste all over your motherboard and definitely have too much thermal paste for any heat to pass through to the heatsink to be dissipated by the fins of the cooler.

Read the instructions on the following page. Although the information is regarding a different cooler, the amount of thermal paste to apply remains the same. There are pictures to show you. You need to remove ALL of the thermal paste you already applied, from the cpu, heatsink and any that has gotten on the motherboard or heatsink bracket, completely, using isopropyl alcohol or one of the special cleaners made for removing thermal paste that's sold online, and using either a lint free cloth or a coffee filter. Then reapply the paste. MORE is NOT better, you only use a very small amount.


Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2520482/solving-temperature-issues-hyper-212-evo.html
 
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If i put a tiny amount of thermal paste, will it be too less?
Thank you, i'll try it later
 
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Read the article, it tells you and SHOWS you, exactly how much to put. A little bit too little is better than a little bit too much, in every case. If you have difficulty reading the English tutorial, load the page in google chrome and try to translate it to your language by right clicking on the page and selecting Translate for easier reading.
 
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I think the temp was reduced a little bit after applying your solution... but i still have the freezing and restarting issue...

Shall i buy a new psu or a water cooler for cpu?
 
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I'm sure you need to replace the PSU, Raidmax is certainly one of the worst brands for all their models of PSU. However, it's doubtful that's the cause of the overheating.

I would hate to venture a guess at this point, but it's definitely too hot and the stock cooler, if installed correctly, should be giving you 20-30°C idle temps and without any overclocking, no more than 60°C temps under load.

Do you have the CPU cooler connected to the CPU FAN header on the motherboard and is the CPU FAN profile in the BIOS set to the standard setting?
 
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yes the my cpu cooler is connected to the cpu fan header and i set the fan to full speed
 
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Now you're gettin' it. Much better cooler than the EVO. The H5 is even better for only about ten bucks more. If you want a seriously good air cooler that doesn't take up the entire inside of the case, the NH-U14S is a good single fan choice but it's about twice the price of the H7. The H7 would be perfectly fine for that APU. I'm still not convinced that's the issue, or at least all of it, because I've installed plenty of A series APUs with the stock cooler that never got over 50°C when they were not overclocked, but maybe you live in the Gobi desert and it's 100°C ambient temps there right now.

Speaking of which, what is the ambient temp there right now. This could have a big effect on the temps.
 
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well before i moved and switched my cpu in a room that is about 24°C the a8 6600k will idle is at about 39°C and when i play a it shoots up to 57°C and higher depending on what game was being played
it is practically a overclocked 5600k with a stock cooler and it is and was bad idea to include it
 
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I don't disagree, but there's also a big difference between idling at 39°C and idling at 70-90°C. Also, 57°C is a far cry from 120°C, which is actually where it should have shut down at.





Raflyalk, let's try a different utility to monitor temps. HWmonitor is notoriously inaccurate and is known for misreporting voltages and temperatures.

Download Core Temp and see what it says the core temps are.

Core Temp: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
 
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well i used the coretemp, but it seems it's giving me a wrong temperature.. in coretemp it's 20-30C idling.. while i checked in the bios, it would reach 69C
 
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i have CCC installed, and i just installed overdrive just now and it's showing me thermal margin of 40-50C.. what does thermal margin mean?
 
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oh yeah, there are some led lights in front of my case, one of them is the hdd led.

the other 'accessory' leds. they are directly connect to the psu with molex 4 pin cables. it seems that they are sometimes dimmed and sometimes glow normal.. is this because of the psu? i really underestimated this problem earlier.. i'm afraid that this is also a psu issue
 
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well i think coretemp is right, that my cpu is not really overheating.. i logged my 5 minutes before freeze and restart while i'm playing Assassin's Creed Unity with HWinfo32 here: http://www.datafilehost.com/get.php?file=cc7993b9
it's a csv file.. i read it with GenericLogViewer

it seems that the voltages are lowering down in the end right before my pc crashes and restart.. am i right? please give me another solution
 
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Your temps are probably fine. If core temp and overdrive are both indicating the same thing, which it seems they are, then you've nothing to worry about. It's far more likely that the bios is reading incorrectly due to a bad thermal table, update the bios. Also, go into core temp and go into the options and there is an option to change the displayed temp reading to thermal margin. Change it to thermal margin and see if it's about the same as what overdrive is reporting. Thermal margin is the distance from your current temp to what AMD has determined to be Tj Max, or, the temperature at which the cores begin to throttle.

What is the model number of your motherboard? Did you fix the thermal paste situation or did you leave it as it was? Was there thermal paste coming out from between the CPU and the heatsink?
 
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I'm using Asrock FM2A88M-HD+ Motherboard
i have reapplied the paste as you said.. i don't really think there is paste coming out between the cpu and the heatsink now..

i am now pretty sure that the problem of the freeze and restarting issue is the psu..
 
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The freezing and restarting are ALMOST guaranteed to be the PSU. I've never seen a single Raidmax PSU that didn't have issues if it was used on anything more demanding than an office machine.

Make sure you also have the most current BIOS installed which is version 2.7 released on January 21 of this year. You can download the BIOS version at the following link if you have an older version: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88M-HD+/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

I'd probably replace the power supply BEFORE attempting to update the bios so you don't run the risk of the system freezing in the middle of the update.
 
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This is about the best unit that has enough capacity for your GPU with the lowest price, that still has very good quality, at least on Flipkart. Seasonic is among the best you can get. You don't want Raidmax, Corsair, Cooler master, or any other budget brand. You want only Seasonic, Superflower, Antec (Some models), EVGA (Some models) and XFX, at least for the most part.

http://www.flipkart.com/seasonic-m12ii-620-620-watts-psu/p/itmduu8whz5je45j?pid=PSUDUU8WG6SHZGTT&srno=b_6&ref=860d0594-dc75-4400-98de-10bd814e25fc
 
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