will this be enough to play games on ultra settings

Kevin Mirchandani · Mar 20, 2015

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kevin49d/saved/L6GwrH ... This is what I've decided to buy for my new gaming pc. Will it be able to play games like gta 5, far cry 4, batman arkham knight smoothly and on high or ultra settings. Please help and suggest changes.I wanna keep it under 40000 rupees. Please help. Thanks

shadows1234 · Mar 20, 2015

no it will not play games on ultra for ultra you need a r9 280 or gtx 960 i edited your build a bit since you had bad memory and hardrive
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PKv6dC

ram isnt now 2x4 and harddrive is 7200rpm 1tb drive

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

Not by a long shot. That's a low end CPU and a very low end graphics card. I doubt you can play any of those titles on a higher setting than low, depending on your resolution. With a 1366x768 resolution you might make low-medium settings, no more.

p_nut_uk · Mar 20, 2015

The GT 730 is no where near good enough to play on high/ultra unless you plan to play on 720p, for 1080p you want to be looking at either a GTX 960 or AMD R9 280X/285. Also for better performance you'll probably bet better off with dual channel 2 x 4GB rather than 1 x 8gb

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

There is no way to make a build for under 40000inr that will game those titles at ultra settings considering you need everything. An R9 280 or GTX 960 is NOT going to get you Ultra settings in Far Cry 4 OR Arkham Knight. Not even close. Those are two of the most demanding titles around. Especially not with a low end AMD chip. You need a GTX 970 or R9 290 and an i5 if you want to game those kinds of titles at ultra settings at 1080p.

shadows1234 · Mar 20, 2015

Darkbreeze :

he said high or ultra m8 it can handle high settings

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

Yeah, an i5 with an R9 280x or GTX 960 will probably do those titles at high settings@1080p. But trying to assemble an entire build from scratch on Snapdeal or Flipkart with that kind of hardware, and reliable components, ain't likely to happen under within that budget. Sure, you can throw a bunch of junk together, but any half decent quality build is going to run at least 45000+INR to do.

Just a decent graphics card, motherboard, cpu and psu chews up most of that budget without even including a case, memory or anything else.

shadows1234 · Mar 20, 2015

Well i guess we can all agree he needs to save up more money to run ultra at 1080p even if he got a better gpu his psu isn't even enough for the gpu unless he got a r9 270 or 960 but even if he got a better gpu he will be heeled back by his fx cpu

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

Yeah, it's pretty shaky. I just tried to assemble a similar build with a similar budget over the last two days for another Indian member, and it was impossible. We just decided to wait until they could scrape together a few more rupees.

Vynavill · Mar 20, 2015

You won't be able to play high/ultra settings with that hardware, as others already said, and you will be able to do so with your total budget, but likely only up to 30 fps if you want to keep 1080p for the upcoming games (current ones will be relatively fine).

According to Google, you're around 650$.
I'd do something like this (case was omitted on purpose, you can choose it on your own checking if everything fits beforehand). This is terribly shaky tho, and it was done without too much thought...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($137.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $599.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 04:00 EDT-0400

It won't go for ultra, but high should be viable for many games. The only thing I'm absolutely unsure of is the PSU. It's good enough, but it's not exactly top of the line (doesn't even have an 80+ rating...), and barely leaves any headroom. I'll leave that open to suggestions for anyone else reading.
I warmly suggest you to up the budget by about 50$ and get a better one, such as a Rosewill Capstone or an Antec HCG. Wait and scrap for more money if you want ultra...

shadows1234 · Mar 20, 2015

Vynavill :

You won't be able to play high/ultra settings with that hardware, as others already said, and you will be able to do so with your total budget, but likely only up to 30 fps if you want to keep 1080p for the upcoming games (current ones will be relatively fine).

According to Google, you're around 650$.
I'd do something like this (case was omitted on purpose, you can choose it on your own checking if everything fits beforehand). This is terribly shaky tho, and it was done without too much thought...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($137.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $599.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 04:00 EDT-0400

It won't go for ultra, but high should be viable for many games. The only thing I'm absolutely unsure of is the PSU. It's good enough, but it's not exactly top of the line (doesn't even have an 80+ rating...), and barely leaves any headroom. I'll leave that open to suggestions for anyone else reading.
I warmly suggest you to up the budget by about 50$ and get a better one, such as a Rosewill Capstone or an Antec HCG. Wait and scrap for more money if you want ultra...

his currency is INR and he is buying from flipkart the total price is way more than what you have listed in different regions

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

And on top of that, the 270X FIRMLY calls for a 500w PSU. I've seen several of those cards that would not run under high loads with a 450w unit. I'd call high settings on a game like Far Cry 4 a demanding load.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Vynavill · Mar 20, 2015

I'm sorry for the currency issue. I strictly based myself off Google's conversion, as I do not know Indian prices, nor where to look for them.
Besides, it's a shaky build meant to be a general guideline, not a final one by all means (should've explained that better, sorry again).

As I've also said, the PSU is the thing I'm absolutely unsure of, due to the 270x calling for a minimum of 500w as you've confirmed. It was set there just to provide the bare minimum in terms of power and name out a decent manufacturer, even for low-power PSUs.
It still remains a fact that 650$, be it in real USD or INR-converted dollars, is still way too strict for a high/ultra build.

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

No worries. We just have to call it as we see it though so as not to infer any delusions to the OP. Don't sweat it.

Pc6777 · Mar 20, 2015

everything's good except the trashy video card... get a gtx 960 then you can think about maxing out some games... maybe a gtx 750 ti for some of the arkham games... the gt 730 wont run far cry 4 playable on lowest settings, might play gta lowest settings and batman on lower settings... so if you get gtx 750 ti you will be able to max out easier to run games and with a gtx 960 you can max out some moderately hard to run games...

Pc6777 · Mar 20, 2015

Vynavill :

You won't be able to play high/ultra settings with that hardware, as others already said, and you will be able to do so with your total budget, but likely only up to 30 fps if you want to keep 1080p for the upcoming games (current ones will be relatively fine).

According to Google, you're around 650$.
I'd do something like this (case was omitted on purpose, you can choose it on your own checking if everything fits beforehand). This is terribly shaky tho, and it was done without too much thought...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($137.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $599.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 04:00 EDT-0400

It won't go for ultra, but high should be viable for many games. The only thing I'm absolutely unsure of is the PSU. It's good enough, but it's not exactly top of the line (doesn't even have an 80+ rating...), and barely leaves any headroom. I'll leave that open to suggestions for anyone else reading.
I warmly suggest you to up the budget by about 50$ and get a better one, such as a Rosewill Capstone or an Antec HCG. Wait and scrap for more money if you want ultra...

I would downgrade the cpu to fx-6300 and upgrade video card to r9 280 or gtx 960 for this build, gpu is more important than cpu for gaming...

Kevin Mirchandani · Mar 20, 2015

Soo guys you're final answer on this.. Please post your answers with every single detail and help me out. It Will be appreciated.

Vynavill · Mar 20, 2015

- High/ultra details is relatively too hard with your budget, making it not worth it at the moment. You'd have to be too strict in certain decisions, severely limiting your current and future possibilities. To answer gianni as well, I chose an 8320 over a 6300 exactly because of that; I know GPU is more important, but IMO a 6300, while being more budget friendly and hence a more logical choice, it would be a relatively weak solution right now and would soon be lagging behind, unless you massively overclocked it and added an aftermarket cooler. With an 8320 and a 270x, you might have had the chance to just upgrade the GPU and the PSU after a year or two.
- The build I posted is a very general guideline on what you could do, but not what you should buy. As others mentioned, the final price is likely going to be more than that, and it's not going to perform up to expectations for long (or even for short...)
- To fully achieve what you want, you need more money, and I'm terribly sorry for how harsh it sounds. Wait until you can raise your budget and look again; you'll likely have access to better hardware for the same price too.

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

I'd like to hear you tell that to all the people who thought the same way and then realized how CPU intensive Far Cry really is, and now can't play at frame rates higher than 24-30FPS at medium settings because of it. Just sayin'.

Pc6777 · Mar 20, 2015

Darkbreeze :

its one game that's cpu intensive, almost all games are gpu intensive... also he could do an overclock, also an fx-6300 does meet min requirements...

Darkbreeze · Mar 20, 2015

Try gaming at high or ultra settings with minimum requirements hardware sometime. It's not fun. It's not visually pleasing either.

Battlefield, Arma, Far Cry, Crysis, BioShock, GTA, Skyrim, Minecraft, Total War, Witcher and of course anything that's massively multi-player are all seriously CPU intensive. If you plan to play any of those, you better be prepared to drastically lower your settings if you don't have at least a four core Intel chip or an 8 core FX chip that's massively overclocked AND paired with a very good GPU.

Kevin Mirchandani · Mar 20, 2015

Okay. So after some thinking I've decided that I'll only need a gpu,cpu, motherboard, ram,psu. Other parts can be used from my previous pc.

Darkbreeze · Mar 21, 2015

This is the best I can come up with, with your budget, and on Newegg India. It just can't happen on flipcart or snapdeal with a build that has real world gaming performance and decent quality.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157564

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125778

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

Total price is 37,563 without shipping or taxes. I don't know the logistics of that for your region, so you'll have to figure out if this will work for you or not. Some Indian members show little concern for rates from Amazon and Newegg, others flatly refuse to use them so I never know what to expect.

That does include a really decent i5, an H97 motherboard which won't allow for SLI at all or overclocking, which is ok because it doesn't need either one to play games at a very high level. It also includes a newer GTX 960 with 4GB of VRAM instead of 2GB like the US models. I'm not sure how much difference this makes since I haven't seen any reviews of those yet, they've not shown up here as far as I know, but it should do very well. Not as good as a GTX 970 or R9 290, but the 2GB version battles it out with the R9 280X so it should put up some good numbers and be able to get you high settings on most if not all titles.

It also has an Antec VP-450 power supply, which is very good and plenty for the GTX 960.

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