Pentium G3258, or AMD X4 860K for video editing and gaming

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Hello everyone, I'm shopping for a budget PC build and while scrambling around for parts. My friends tell me a pentium is a very good CPU for gaming, so I fiddled around and checked out its video reviews. They were right, however I do video editing and game development. (Or content creation, whatever you call it).

I would need more cores for video editing. So when I go higher in the intel lineup, prices increase drastically. I sat around and thought a bit, and AMD came to my mind. I've heard that AMD is very good for price to performance.

I fiddled around and came across a quad core AMD X4 860K, the price was a little higher but I had more cores than the pentium G3258 which I think is good. So I got stuck and decided too look at a video review by Austin Evans. Yet what brought me down was that the quad core AMD performed slightly less than the dual core pentium.

So I can't argue with the results he got, but id like to hear what you guys think. Will the pentium G3258 work better for video editing and game development, or will the AMD X4 860K do the job.
 
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the AMD X4 860K would be the best option because you would benefit from the extra cores for content creation and extra processing speed at 3.7 ghz but may not be a great overclocker. Also you might consider buying an aftermarket cooler if you go Amd due to the loud noise the stock cooler makes.
 
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Neither really.

I would say the Pentium just because you at least have an upgrade path.
The 860k is maxed out as the best of the best for that fm2 junk platform, and it is not even as powerful as an i3.

Either way trying to do video editing/rendering is going to be awful with those cpus.
I strongly advise you deal with what you have and wait until you can save up a little more money to get the right parts for the job. It is one thing to update when parts become out of date, but to spend $500 today to need to spend $400 in upgrades tomorrow to have a $700 computer.
 
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But if upgrading in the future isn't an option, and you need the chip you buy now to do what you need, the A-series APU would be the much better option as it's four cores are going to be much better for video editing and gaming, unless you overclock the G3258 to extreme amounts. At it's stock speeds the G3258 is a pig. Personally, I'd go with the A-series APU.

If you don't mind a very serious overclocking procedure and buying additional hardware to maintain that overclock, then the G3258 does have stronger single core performance, but it's too much hassle as far as I'm concerned. Also, by the time you buy a decent cooling system plus the necessary motherboard, CPU and RAM, you could easily get an i3 that beats them both, and STILL upgrade to an i5 or i7 at some point down the road without the need to overclock now. You'd still get the strong Intel single core performance, the benefit of four thread processing and probably not pay much if any more than you would for the opposing platforms.

 
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my budget is 500 - 400 us dollars, if I could go lower that would be great. Because I wanna be able to have enough money in the future for upgrades and other stuff. (Yes, I'm a cheap dude)

Also I will be using a discrete graphics card (no sli, because I think its ridiculous)
 
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How willing would you be to do a quick upgrade because for me thats what it comes down to, if the answer is yes then pentium all the way. If you get a H97 or Z97 board you can upgrade to the broadwell series that will be coming out soon. If the answer is no then AMD is the way, you don't get any upgrades and many games play worse but you do get more immediate performance in things like video editing.

What sort of budget have you got for mobo and cpu? maybe rest of the rig to so we can get you the best bang for buck.
 
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This is probably your best entry level option that offers a good combination of performance versus price. You can add the rest of the components as you wish. You can add more RAM if you wish as well, or add more later. Using 2 x4GB now would be the best option though. Other considerations are up to you. Don't skimp on the PSU. Depending on what GPU you go with, get a good quality PSU of sufficient capacity, according to the recommendations here:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm


Using a unit listed at the position of Tier 1 or 2 here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html#15349669


The sole exception being, if you get a GPU that requires a 450w unit, the Antec VP-450 is always a solid choice, despite it's position on the Tier list. It WAS previously a higher tiered unit and would still be if not for the fact that it has no PFC protection so can't get an 80plus rating, which amounts to crap anyhow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.23 @ Amazon)
Total: $203.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 15:18 EDT-0400
 
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Neither of those cpus is going to handle the job.

It is just stupid to spend $80 today on a cpu and replace it with a $180 cpu in the very near future, thus spending $260 on the cpu, when all you needed was an extra $100. Anyone with any drive and work ethic could earn $100 in a day or two.
 
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My humble suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Micro Center)

Total: $459.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 15:20 EDT-0400
 
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I would like to squeeze the price of everything (squeeze the price, but have very good quality) besides the CPU and GPU, I plan to get an R9 270X, or R9 280. Yet also I would like to clarify I am a beginner to this but Ive done enough research to know about the components of a PC. I just need a little help on getting the right parts for me.
 
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The 6300 is a slight step up over the g3258 due to more threads, and yes is a good bit better then the 860k.
Now an i3 at similar price range is better, and an i5 trumps everything else amd makes.

Thus looking at the whole picture the 6300 is not "the best" option.
 
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This is about the best it gets, without using junk. Keep in mind, this includes mail in rebates, as do all the builds above so far as I can tell, so the initial investment might be slightly more. And, it doesn't include an operating system, mouse, keyboard or monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($151.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($57.99 @ Directron)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $520.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 15:36 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Q3JxjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Q3JxjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $520.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 15:38 EDT-0400

Deal with the pentium for a while and then upgrade to an i5, with the Z97 mobo you can get an overclockable i5 in the future. The best tactic here though would have to be just waiting and getting an i3 or i5.
 
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I would say that you should really go with a Z97 or H97 mobo as they will support the broadwell series and for the extra $10 to a H97 I believe that it would be a very worthwhile future proofing upgrade.
 
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Thanks dark breeze, thats one good budget build. Ill maybe find a cheaper case and kill the optical drive. But thats pretty good, thanks! 1+ rep!

(for the other people) if you want, you can leave your budget builds on here and ill check it out, and maybe in some way i can find a way to mush them together to get the perfect build for me :)
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hChMgs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hChMgs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $533.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-20 15:49 EDT-0400

If you don't need a cd drive then what about this?
 
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can I still use the Z97? will it still work nicely and 10 bucks cheaper than that h97?

EDIT: oops, got my info a little skewed. Can i use the ASRock H97M (newegg, and a few bucks cheaper)? will it work the same as that H97
 
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Yeah that would be fine, just make sure that it has enough ports for you.
 
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Now here is the build nobody wants to see. It may seem a little unbalanced but it provides far more performance for content creation.

SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266

DIYPC FM18-BK Black USB 3.0 ATX Mid
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353045

CORSAIR CX series CX430 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

G.SKILL NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231645

ECS H81H3-M4 (1.0A) LGA 1150 Intel H81 HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135360

Intel Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1150 80W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907

XFX R7-260X-CNF4 Core Edition Radeon R7 260X 2GB 128-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150689

504.73 - rebates but plus taxes

Leverage the extremely powerful processor to overcome the limitations of the system. That's how I deal with my content creation and encoding... mind you I have a pretty decent SSD to go along with it.

You shouldn't need to worry about an upgrade path due to the cpu already being pretty sweet.
 
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Your right, that psu...
 
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