preview my build before I hit the buy it now button...

Troy_B

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Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: I can go up by +/- $100 if its worth it

System Usage from Most to Least Important: learning experience, gaming,

Are you buying a monitor: Yes its in the list but I'm open to options/opinions

Parts to Upgrade: starting from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, ncix.com, Amazon, open to others

Location: San Jose, California

Overclocking: Yes it's part of the learning

SLI or Crossfire: Not planned at this time

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 but still need to buy it.

Additional Comments: most of the games I'm currently playing are older (Aion, Crysis 3, Borderlands 2

Why Are You Upgrading: I'm tired of gaming on my old laptop and figured this could be a fun project. Here's what I've come up with so far and a short reason why

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/twzfjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/twzfjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
--- Cheap for learning overclocking, decent gaming capability---
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
---Overclocking ability, able to easily switch to a 4460 or 4690 later---
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Enthusiast Edition Video Card ($144.99 @ Amazon)
---here is one spot i keep waffling but it seems like a capable option---
Case: DIYPC M89-R MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
---Doesn't show up on parts picker ---
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
---Tier 2B, Semi-modular,and it gives me some room to grow---
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard ($17.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $684.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-22 22:01 EDT-0400

That's it, I didn't include a CPU cooler because by most accounts the one that comes with the 3258 is pretty good so I figured I would start with it. I can always add one later if needed.

Thank you in advance for any input.
Troy
 
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the games you are playing would benefit more from a higher clock speed attained from overclocking a G3258, than they would from the added threads of the i3. with good cooling and a decent motherboard, the g3258 can get up to 4.8 GHz, a massive 150% performance increase. that's huge. for gaming purposes (especially for single/double threaded applications) you would be better off with the faster dual core than a slower, synthesized quad core. not only that, but you would also get to have the experience and satisfaction of overclocking and yielding results. also, it makes the future upgrade more bearable when you only paid 50 bucks for it.

the gpu is actually the more important factor anyway. it's not splitting hairs, the better quality...

CTurbo

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC MA08-BK MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.69 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard ($17.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $693.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-22 23:02 EDT-0400
 

g-unit1111

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Yeah I agree that an i3 would be a much better trade off, but I don't know about that case, I think I would chuck it and go for something else.

Maybe do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($133.00 @ Directron)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB DUAL-X Video Card ($172.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Total: $627.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-23 00:21 EDT-0400

Wouldn't alter the budget too much and then you can add whatever monitor, keyboard and mouse you want.
 

Troy_B

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First of all thank you both for answering.

So something more like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($164.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard ($17.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $762.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-23 00:49 EDT-0400

Looks like the video card is where most of the price creep is. Is the video card that dramatic of a difference at this point or is it splitting hairs?

Also does the I-3 really make games run better than the 3258?
 

TofuLion

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the games you are playing would benefit more from a higher clock speed attained from overclocking a G3258, than they would from the added threads of the i3. with good cooling and a decent motherboard, the g3258 can get up to 4.8 GHz, a massive 150% performance increase. that's huge. for gaming purposes (especially for single/double threaded applications) you would be better off with the faster dual core than a slower, synthesized quad core. not only that, but you would also get to have the experience and satisfaction of overclocking and yielding results. also, it makes the future upgrade more bearable when you only paid 50 bucks for it.

the gpu is actually the more important factor anyway. it's not splitting hairs, the better quality the gpu you have, the better quality graphics you will produce. the r9 280 is an excellent choice for your price range, however, AMD cards notoriously run way hotter than nvidia cards. therefore i suggest going for a mid atx case and motherboard because you will need the extra space to allow the card proper airflow and ventilation.
 
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Troy_B

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TofuLion's post got me thinking and I'm back to this as a build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard ($17.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $778.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 11:42 EDT-0400

Prices sure have an ability to creep up even when trying to keep it low. . .
 

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