1150 vs 2011-v3 sockets. (z97 vs x99)

markrodgers11 · Mar 23, 2015

This thread is targetted both at motherboards and CPUs, though a major portion of the argument is "bigger picture" (ddr4 support, cpu compatibility, etc).

I'm looking into upgrading my current rig (system specs listed below).

After doing some research I compiled a list of what I believe to be the highest performing CPUs (for gaming specifically).
5960x (8-Core / 3.0GHz / $1049)
4960x (6-Core / 3.6GHz / $1032)
5930k (6-Core / 3.5GHz / $569)
4930k (6-Core / 3.4GHz / $582)
5820k (6-Core / 3.3GHz / $385)
4790K (4-core / 4.0GHz / $339)

I'm currently thinking of deciding between the 5930k vs 4790k. As most of us know, 5930k is LGA 2011-v3 socket which uses an x99 motherboard. DDR4 being exclusive to x99 motherboards is a definite pro. Correct me if I'm wrong but from my research it doesn't show much of a performance increase.

4790k is much more affordable with incredible individual core speed but uses LGA 1150 sockets which will evidently become obsolete.

Do you guys think being future proof and the performance increase worth going with an 2011-v3 socket CPU?

EDIT: worth noting I do plan to SLI my 980 atleast x2. POTENTIALLY someday x4 if it shows a substantial benefits.

System Specs
CPU: Intel Quad-Core i5 2320 @ 3.0GHz
GPU: EVGA GTX980 Superclocked 4GB GDDR5 256bit
Memory: 8gb DDR3
PSU: Cooler Master V850

VincentP · Mar 23, 2015

Both sockets will be obsolete once Skylake is released. It doesn't matter unless you are planning to drop a different processor in the same motherboard later.
For 2 way SLI, the 4790K is the better choice. Performance is actually better in most situations through higher clock speeds.
If you are serious about 4 way SLI, then the 5930K is your only real option.

holyrage · Mar 23, 2015

might as well hold on to that i5 Until Skylake lol

USAFRet · Mar 23, 2015

"future proof"
2 useless words.

Does your system, now, do what you need it to do? If so, then wait.
If not, then upgrade today.

giantbucket · Mar 23, 2015

hey, my AT 286 was future-proof.... wasn't it? at least until the 386 came out?

markrodgers11 · Mar 24, 2015

Okay well disregarding it being "future proof", would and x99 or z97 system perform better as of currently.

mrhippo900 · Mar 24, 2015

markrodgers11 :

That depends. LGA 2011 v3 Literally requires you to have DDR4 RAM. And again, nothing is EVER future proof!
If you want the most recent, get a 5930k with DDR4 RAM.

markrodgers11 · Mar 24, 2015

mrhippo900 :

I really want to go this route I'm just unsure as I've also heard in certain areas a 5930k won't perform as well as a 4970k since the individual core speeds are much higher on the 4970k. And it the long run an x99 platform would be a more pricey build. As far as I've read (not much) DDR4 hasn't been tested to perform all that much better than DDR3

mrhippo900 · Mar 24, 2015

markrodgers11 :

mrhippo900 :

I really want to go this route I'm just unsure as I've also heard in certain areas a 5930k won't perform as well as a 4970k since the individual core speeds are much higher on the 4970k. And it the long run an x99 platform would be a more pricey build. As far as I've read (not much) DDR4 hasn't been tested to perform all that much better than DDR3

Why not just get a 5960x? 8 Cores. Probably faster than a 5930k. I believe so its hyperthreaded.

markrodgers11 · Mar 24, 2015

mrhippo900 :

markrodgers11 :

Why not just get a 5960x? 8 Cores. Probably faster than a 5930k. I believe so its hyperthreaded.

I've considered it but I've also considered it's double the price for 2 more cores and a lower clockspeed. I feel the 5960x may be better used in an environment involving video rendering etc, which I don't do. Don't think many games would take any advantage from this extra $500 investment.

mrhippo900 · Mar 24, 2015

markrodgers11 :

mrhippo900 :

I've considered it but I've also considered it's double the price for 2 more cores and a lower clockspeed. I feel the 5960x may be better used in an environment involving video rendering etc, which I don't do. Don't think many games would take any advantage from this extra $500 investment.

Its a lower clock speed, but is well efficient enough to get 4.5 no problem.

likes0079 · Mar 24, 2015

This is all opinion,
I dont think 2011-v3 will worth the money and future proof if you are not going to render+programming all day long. That really is the only practical reason to go X99.

Small amount of this non-gaming but high performance demanding tasks can be just done on Z97 with high-end CPU like 4790k/4770k with not much of difference since the % of time you save is on a too small of scale.

Also, the 14nm Skylake is coming out, even broadwell is coming out this year. For now, I would honestly suggest you to either get a Z97 + 4790k with decent cooler, and overclock it. Then save more money until skylake comes out and see if that's worth anything for an upgrade or not.

Personally, 2x980 serves me very well since release. Very low power consumption/performance. RAM is fine for up to 1440p gaming.
Just for the reference, 980sli is more expensive than Titan X in most region I believe. aside, 390x is just abt to come out.
In such a shorter lifespan of tech, waiting is not really a good choice, so I would recommend a single rather than dual 980s Titan X at this point.

markrodgers11 · Mar 24, 2015

mrhippo900 :

likes0079 :

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6
it appears the 4790k actually out performs the 5960x when it comes to gaming in a good number of these benchmarks

mrhippo900 :

likes0079 :

well i just got my gtx 980 a few months ago so i'm not really looking to waste it, as compelling as the titan x appears.

likes0079 · Mar 24, 2015

Indeed, no game uses more than 6 cores I believe. Gaming with higher clocked 4 cores processor like the 4790k is better, but the gain will be minimal.
GPU is much a larger fact. and new gpu will benefit much more than spending into high end cpu.

I see your point,
If you were to going X99, I was thinking of getting rid of your 980 which should get you more $$ than you need to purchase a 4790k.
and than spend the money you were gonna upgrade to X99(board, ddr4, 5930k) for an Titan X.

Mentioning Titan X is due to 4k gaming, or at least 1440p.
980 4 way- SLI will still not let you do that on current 3A titles @4k, you gotta abandon AA.
Although whether you need AA @ 4k is another topic.

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