should i wait for amd new series or buy gtx 970 ?

Hozhoz · Mar 24, 2015

should i wait for amd new series ? or buy the gtx 970 ?

Darkbreeze · Mar 24, 2015

Waiting almost never pays off. You'll likely pay more for similar performance. Go with the 970, which is most likely to still use less power anyhow.

hjj174 · Mar 24, 2015

It's almost certain that there will be an announcement sometime within the next few weeks. If you are really desparate for that graphic power, then go ahead and just buy it. There will always be a "I should have waited a little bit longer," scenario.

bgunner · Mar 24, 2015

i agree with darkbreeze for the most part. the one thing that can not be predicted is price changes after the release of the new cards. Nvidia will surely use less power and does a decent job.

Vosgy · Mar 24, 2015

The earlier in a GPUs life cycle you get it the less likely you are to be disappointed next week. That's my theory.

Vosgy · Mar 24, 2015

hjj174 :

People where telling me on this forum to wait for the new AMD cards back in November, I got my 980 in December and I've enjoyed the best performance on a single GPU possible for 4 months, now I still enjoy the second best performance on a single GPU possible. If I'd waited I would be bored using my old 570 for 4 months and still not seen these fabled new AMD cards.

hjj174 · Mar 24, 2015

I never believed an announcement would come for them at any time other than March/April, since AMD discreetly said Q1/Q2 of 2015. I don't know why people would think they would have came that early anyways.

Darkbreeze · Mar 24, 2015

Plus, if it's anything like previous releases, the Maxwell cards for example, there will likely only be one or two cards released at first and then others will trickle onto the market, so depending on your budget, the card YOU'RE looking for may not even be among those first released. You lose nothing but patience by waiting to see the results when these ARE released, but I don't expect anything earth shattering to happen as a result of their release and any cards capable of competing with the 970 or 980 are likely to be just as expensive, at least for a while.

The exception may be, emphasis on MAY, if you're gaming at 4k resolutions. There might be some very real benefits going on there if early "reports" are indicative of any actual truths.

JackNaylorPE · Mar 24, 2015

I normally say "don't wait" .... unless there's change right around the corner. In this case we have **had** anticipated dates of April 15 for two 3xx series cards which have now been pushed back to June. OTOH, the Catalyst 15.3 Beta contains the following Device ID Nos which the authors anticipate are associated with cards as follows:

AMD665F.1 = “AMD Radeon R9 360″
AMD6610.2 = “AMD Radeon(TM) R7 350X”
AMD6610.3 = “AMD Radeon(TM) R5 340X”
AMD6611.10 = “AMD Radeon R7 340″
AMD665F.1 = “AMD Radeon R9 360″
AMD6660.1 = “AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M330″
AMD6660.2 = “AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M330″
AMD6660.3 = “AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M330″
AMD6778.8 = “AMD Radeon R5 310″
AMD6811.1 = “AMD Radeon R9 370″

It's a marketing game.... AMD's goal is 1) keep nVidia guessing and 2) not kill their receivables by having everyone stop buying cards until the new one arrives.

redgarl · Mar 24, 2015

I would wait. They are going to be released in a mere couple of months.

Darkbreeze · Mar 25, 2015

There will ALWAYS be something bigger and better or newer and faster, uses less power, has more memory, on and on, waiting in the wings or just around the corner. If you always wait for what's coming next, you'll never buy anything. If what you have NOW is satisfactory, and a new card is a WANT rather than a NEED, then wait. Otherwise, buy the biggest single card you can currently afford and game on.

chenw · Mar 25, 2015

All of the rumours I have heard on the 3xx series is that the only new card is the 390x, and if it is designed to compete against titan X, 970's price to performance should still be relatively unscathed.

But again, this is just rumour, but 280 was just a rebrand, the only new card AFAIK in 200 series was 290/290x

Darkbreeze · Mar 25, 2015

Actually, they're supposed to be a new architecture, not a repurposed architecture like the last generation. So they'll likely ALL be "new". Again, nothing is anything until we see it and it can be determined what has and has not been done.

Darkbreeze · Mar 25, 2015

AMD Possibly Preparing Tonga GPU Architecture For Radeon Cards

The codenames of Tonga, Iceland and Maui have appeared in Catalyst files several times but their reemergence means that AMD has had these chips under development phase for quite some time which may explain why we didn’t saw any new GPU architecture in the sub $299 range of the Radeon R200 series cards. The source reports that the Tonga GPU will not be based on a 20nm architecture nor would it feature the high-bandwidth memory which is due to several reasons.

The Tonga GPU architecture is being built on a new architecture which is presumably the GCN 2.0 design and not the GCN 1.1 architecture which has been featured on Bonaire and Hawaii. The Tonga graphics architecture will be built on the 28nm node from Global Foundries and would feature a new design scheme introducing latest architectural improvements such as new ACE (Asynchronous Compute Engine) Units and more focus towards compute shaders. It is also mentioned that Tonga will retain the basic technologies of the Radeon lineup such as Mantle, TrueAudio and XDMA for CrossFire support.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-possibly-preparing-tonga-gpu-architecture-rival-nvidias-power-efficient-maxwell/#ixzz3VNCvoZ6z

Hozhoz · Mar 25, 2015

hjj174 :

why always ?!

Hozhoz · Mar 25, 2015

Darkbreeze :

but,amd was always cheaper and better in performance,yet it uses more power,look am getting this card for 353$,should i wait for amd ? will the new series compete with that price and performance ?,i heard that it will use 300TDP !! while gtx 970 uses only 175TDP !

renz496 · Mar 25, 2015

redgarl :

and then keep waiting when AMD release theirs because nvidia new series just a few months away.

Mousemonkey · Mar 25, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

A slightly different spin on the same info.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-rx-300-cards-reveal-themselves-in-15-3-driver.html

Darkbreeze · Mar 25, 2015

Jesus. That's an entirely different roadmap than what was surmised half a year ago. All the more reason to not wait.

JackNaylorPE · Mar 25, 2015

Hozhoz :

AMD historically has owned the low to moderate whereas nVidia has held sway over the moderate to high end.... but it's been very close at 2560 .... not so much at 1920

Since the R9 series came out, the paradigm has shifted in that both companies no longer conservatively clock their cards. So what we saw last generation for example:

Release Date News: "The new 290x beats the 780"
Day After news: "Yeah but the overclocked 780 still beats the overclocked 290x"
Week After News: "The 780 Ti beats everything"

As for the stock 970 (not MSI) and stock 290x ....

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_970_Gaming/27.html

This 3% advantage for the 970 (reference to reference) switches to a 3% disadvantage at 2560 at stock settings..... but if you overclocking, the overclocked 970 edges the overclocked 290x.

The MSI 970 is 17.1% faster than the reference 970
The MSI 290x is 10.2% faster than the reference 290x

Because the R9s are more aggressively overclocked "in the box"

MSI 970 @ 2560 = 97% x 1.171 = 113.6%
MSI 290x @ 2560 = 100% x 1.102 = 110.2%

So which is faster ?

If you doing stock.... the 970 at 1080p and 290x at 1440p
If you doing overclocking.... the 970 at 1080p and 970 at 1440p

But as the differences are just 3%, there is no wrong choice performance wise.... cost, noise, heat and power will be factors more peeps will consider. Cost is kinda wiped out as some of the most popular 970s (MSI Gaming) and 290x's (Sapphire) are within $5.

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