Help me make a new build

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

Hello guys,

Longtime lurker, first time poster

Currently got an outdated 6320 Duo at 1.86 with r7 250 and 8ram and looking to get something that wont force me to run games at or near minimum settings.

The build I'm looking for will be used for gaming mostly (tho I dont play shooters - I like simulation/rts/strategies games in general, currently playing Cities: Skylines for example) and watch sports streams online, which I can already easily do with my current setup so I doubt getting an AMD or an i5/i7 makes much of a difference for that.

I dont need an OS (got win 7), already got the mouse/keyboard/screen/speakers so looking for cpu/mb/psu/ram/case/video card. I already have a DVD burner (not a bad one actually) but wouldnt mind getting a new one for my new system so my old tower keeps that one and remains usable. I'll need a new ethernet card so as to keep my current one in my current tower.

In regards to the HDD, I currently got a 1TB (either Seagate or WD) and a smaller one (roughly 100gigs) that I am currently only using for my OS, both SATAs if I recall right. I plan on keeping the 1TB and could keep the other as well but, I`d be open to changing if there`s any speed gain to be had.

I used to be a hardcore gamer and follow every new techs/parts coming out, staying informed but last 10 years, I havent been gaming as much as therefore, I gotta say, I'm a bit out of the loop in regards to that now.

Been looking at different things the last few days and here`s what I came up with so far:

Here Here!

It doesnt have to be an AMD per say, tho the price difference compared to Intel makes them enticing.

I live in Canada (Québec city) so will likely order online (unless there's a computer store I'm unaware of in the province).

Concerning the MB, I'm currently connected to a screen via a VGA plug, but wouldnt mind using an HDMI. Tho I suspect this is standard with most MBs nowadays.

I dont intend on OCing and am planning on keeping the build for at least 3 years.

Also, concerning the budget, anything under 1000$ would be nice. The 5 parts at neweggs are roughly 800$ + about 40 for taxes and 10$ for shipping, so 850$ total. I'm pretty sure the above list can be optimized... I wouldnt mind saving as much as I can, tho I wont mind spending a bit more (keyword is a bit more) if it makes sense, quality wise.

Any help is more than welcome.

Thanks alot, Mark.

g-unit1111 · Mar 25, 2015

Yeah I'd go with an Intel i5 over an AMD FX for gaming. There's just no reason to go with an AMD CPU anymore - the FX 83XX were great maybe three years ago but now they can barely keep up with the Intel i5 and i7s, and there's no upgrade path with AMD - the FX-9590 is notorious for overheating issues.

I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($78.78 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($253.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($96.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $888.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-25 02:07 EDT-0400

If you've got a flexible budget this is a bit more but will be a far better system than the proposed build will be. If you are not going to do any overclocking then a lower end i5 with the stock cooler will be better suited for what you want to do.

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

Is it just me or the above mb you proposed doesnt have 2133 in its specs? Wouldnt it make more sense to get a mb that does if I'm to get 2133ram?

In regards to 8350 vs i5-i7, I'm not sure what to think. The i5 would really be better for gaming than the 8350? I'm not doubting you, jsut asking for more clarification. I saw some benhmarks and they led me to believe the contrary yet I see most people saying i5/i7 are better at gaming.

Again, not doubting you, just asking why it is that way as I'd like to understand

As far as your post as a whole, thanks for taking the time to help me out!

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

Just something I'm wondering: are Intel switching their development to 6-cores now, putting aside the 1150 socket development aside a bit? In that case, getting a 1150 socket mb/cpu would hinder any upgrade path (only switching the cpu) down the road, no?

Concerning the HDD, would getting a SSD for my OS be worth it? I already got a 1TB HDD like the one shown above so wondering if that would be worth it? I dont know enough about SSD to know really.

Edit: upon checking, my 1TB HDD is a 3.0 SATA with 32mb cache actually, so not quite the same. I'd suspect with the new system, there would be a difference in accessing stuff on the HDD compared to the one you posted above?

The one I'm currently using for my OS is a 120gigs, 1.5 SATA and 8mb cache. I'd guess compared to the 6.0/64 you posted above, both would kinda slow things down with a new machine?

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

Intels 6core cpus are going to be expensive because of their performance. a 4790k, a 4 core processor, blows away amds 9590...

If you go with an h97 board and 1150 cpu, you can upgrade later to intels Broadwell cpu.

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

Camarade Popov :

AMD's x86 development is behind. What they do is share the cache to their cores. So,
for every 2 cores, there is a shared cache. However, an Intel CPU has its own cache line to each core. So each core is faster than AMDs cpu.

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

I'm checking various things and find the build you assembled g-unit to be quite good for the price. The upgrade path with only a cpu change down the road is important to me and I'll go for that over AMD I think mainly for that, even considered the small price difference AMD offers.

Now, while checking the i5 processors, I noticed very small prices variations between the 4440, 4460, 4590 and 4690. The first 3 have a 15$ difference maximum (which is nothing) while the 4690 is 40$ more expensive than the 4440.

I was wondering if putting in another processor than the 4440 out of these 3 would make a noticeable difference or if, putting in a 4440 (basically cheapest one right now), I can run almost anything (games wise, excluding fps shooters, which I dont play) maxed out, settings wise, and in a year or 2, I can only replace the processor and extend the lifespan of my rig.

Basically asking if getting a processor other than the 4440, for a small $ difference, would be worth it and would make any noticeable difference?

Basically, I'm saying I wont mind spending a bit more if it makes sense. That includes for example the videocard. I'm not saying I will spend more money just for the heck of it, but I dont mind spending an extra 50$ for example on an item that would lasts me longer than another item.

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

no, you wont see any big difference..

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

What about getting a SSD HDD? Worth it?

What about the video card? From a 960 to a 970 for example, or any other video card that would be worth it for the price over a 960 that would be worth it?

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

When you mean SSD HDD, do you mean an SSD for the OS, and an HDD for mass storage?

Thw 970 is probably the best GPU on the market in terms of cost. It blows the 960 away. I dont recommend a 960, as a 280 has a bigger memory bandwith, as well as more vram. If you can get the 970, go for it

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

Yeah, I meant SSD for OS. I've never used an SSD HDD but heard its much faster, tho I'm not sure how much and if its worth it. Depending on the price and speed difference, I could be tempted.

As far as a 970 goes, the PNY GeForce GTX 970 4GB XLR8 Video Card is listed at 389$, compared to 254$ for the 960. Would that be a worthwhile investment?

If investing a bit more in a part means taking it much longer to get outdated, I will strongly consider that. I just dont wanna get the latest new part out of the market just for the sake of it, the parts that are usually overpriced big time.

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

Yes, I love my SSD. It makes windows load faster, and makes loading games and other apps MUCH faster. I would really go with an ssd for os and apps, and a hdd for storage

The 970 blows the 960 out of the water. Zotac might be a little cheaper, but its quality is nice.

The 970 will take a while to be oudated. It will be a very capable card with a good cpu 2-3 years down the road. Even then, it will still be strong

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

What kind of price are we talking about for a decent/good SSD? I dont know diddly poo about SSDs. I'm guessing a SSD around 100 gigs would be fine since its only for the OS? Speed is the most important aspect I'm guessing?

I could use some help in regards to that.

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

As far as the 970 goes, there seems to be about a 30$ difference between some Here Here!, some have a rebate, some dont (so basically the same price) and out of that group, what would you most consider?

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

I assume you play games, so I would look into a 256 gig ssd, so you can keep a few games their... The OS it self will take about 20gigs~...

I usually will sacrifice a little speed for more storage. If I can get, lets say a 500 gig ssd for the same price the FASTEST 250 gig ssd is, i would go with the 500.

For video cards,

#1 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43975kr

#2 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g

#3 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn970wf3oc4gd

#4 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr

#5 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt9010110p

I would try tot stick with the 1st 3...

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

In regards to the HDD/SSD, I could buy a SSD and wont need another HDD (Say for example a Seagate 1TB) as I already got one. Sure, its not as fast, but since it'll only be used for storage, its not that big a deal. It isnt an issue right now so I dont see why it'd be down the road. I'd use that money saved to get a better SSD instead, just not quite sure which one to look for

As for the video cards, I'd be interested in knowing why you ranked some in front of others? Looking at the cards, I'd guess its due to the core clock, but then, the 4th one has a higher one than the #2 and #3 on the list, so that cant be the main reason, so I'm really wondering why

And btw, thanks alot for your help, greatly appreciated!

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

If you have a 1tb hdd already, might as well use it again, and just get a 250 gig ssd..

Adata, samsung, and crucial are where I go to for an SSD. Any 250/256 gig ssd from them will be reliable and fast.

I thought you would ask that

The SSC is the one I have. I got it over the 4th one because one of the heatpipes on the 4th one doesnt touch the GPU, making it useless. The SSC has a new cooler which is amazing.

The OLD COOLER (regular ACX SC)

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The New one (SSC)

You can see their is a BIG differance in both cards. Thats why I ranked it 4th,

Also, no problem

I enjoy helping people

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

The 1TB I currently have (have had it for 3-4 years now I think) is a Seagate 3.0 SATA with 32MB cache (model is ST31000528AS), so not as quick as a 6.0/64 but for storing purpose, it wouldnt make much sense in changing it for the sake of changing it if mine's working fine. I might as well get a SSD which will make a much bigger difference, I'd think. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

Regarding video cards, just stumbled upon this and was wondering if you had ever heard of that site. I know its refurb cards, but still wrondering what you think:
http://gpushack.com/collections/nvidia?ref=970

Its still a 100$ difference over a brand new one. I wonder if anyone has heard of that site and how realiable it is.

As far as SSDs goes, I saw several in the 240-256gb range, tho unsure which one to choose. Knowing Crucial/Kingston/Intel, I'd be more inclined to choose one of theirs. Btw, Samsung is a tad more expensive I'd say

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssda240gg25

This one's supposedly very fast and they offer a 10-year warranty. From a few tests I saw on different sites, it seems its one of the fastest, good bang for the bucks and the 10-year warranty on top of it. Its not that expensive at 155$ either at Vuugo.

Or... I could be all wrong

I'm talking in the 200-256 category btw, which is what I'd prolly get regardless of the model I choose. I wont need 512 I dont think.

g-unit1111 · Mar 25, 2015

Camarade Popov :

The 1TB I currently have (have had it for 3-4 years now I think) is a Seagate 3.0 SATA with 32MB cache (model is ST31000528AS), so not as quick as a 6.0/64 but for storing purpose, it wouldnt make much sense in changing it for the sake of changing it if mine's working fine. I might as well get a SSD which will make a much bigger difference, I'd think. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

Regarding video cards, just stumbled upon this and was wondering if you had ever heard of that site. I know its refurb cards, but still wrondering what you think:
http://gpushack.com/collections/nvidia?ref=970

Its still a 100$ difference over a brand new one. I wonder if anyone has heard of that site and how realiable it is.

As far as SSDs goes, I saw several in the 240-256gb range, tho unsure which one to choose. Knowing Crucial/Kingston/Intel, I'd be more inclined to choose one of theirs. Btw, Samsung is a tad more expensive I'd say

I wouldn't touch the Kingston or PNY drives mainly due to the inferior controllers they use. The Samsung 850 might be a bit more but worth it for the 3D NAND technology. The Intel 730 series are pretty decent, and so are the Crucial MX200 and M550.

Camarade Popov · Mar 25, 2015

What about the Sandisk Extreme Pro?

Bossyfins · Mar 25, 2015

Sandisk make some good ones as well. That would be fine as well

Camarade Popov · Mar 26, 2015

So basically, this is how it looks:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ NCIX)
I'll actually get it from there:
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1220174057U as its actually 214.98$

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.21 @ DirectCanada)

or 94.99 from ncix.com

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($78.65 @ DirectCanada)

Storage: Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($155.50 @ Vuugo)

[http://www.directcanada.com/wishli...arracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ DirectCanada)

Last item I gotta check.

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ NCIX)
Unless directcanada has a cheaper one.

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ DirectCanada)

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($96.97 @ Amazon Canada)

Its actually gonna cost me 81.82 with s&h + taxes. I got a 20$ rebate apparently upon signing up. I already was but God knows why, its given me a free 20$ so I'll use it for the item that Amazon was already cheaper in.

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $1232.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-26 01:30 EDT-0400

Bossyfins · Mar 26, 2015

Almost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($78.65 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($155.50 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($96.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1229.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-26 01:33 EDT-0400

This one has a better mobo. Even though you cant oc, you still want a quality mobo

Camarade Popov · Mar 26, 2015

Btw, I'm updating my last post atm with the actual $ it'd cost me, plus some modifications that wont show up in pcpartpicker for some reason. Example, I found the cpu cheaper at directcanada.

Btw, would you mind checking at http://www.directcanada.com/category/?minorcatid=1862 for the SCC video card? I did so but cant find it. If its there, i'd guess its likely cheaper (as I`ll be ordering most items from that site). Just wanna make sure before ordering from another site

In regard to that MB you changed, whats the difference with the other?

Btw, likely wont order from Vuugo as they have S&H on everything, unlike none on directcanada.

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