How to determine PSU wattage

Jundals NZ

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So today i was in a store looking at a new video card and they had a deal on two SAPPHIRE HD 7790 1GB GDDR5 cards for $150 for bothwhich alone are better than my current card but would allow me to run them in crossfire. My question is regarding my psu, my current card says it requires a 400W power supply but looking inside my case it says its only a 240W psu. Should i even be able to run my current card let alone two in crossfire without updating my psu first? And is it possible my psu is more than 240W since it can run a 400W card?

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Upgrade the PSU. Even if you had a 'magical' PSU which could put out the necessary power in spite of its rating, you still wouldn't have the required connections for the PSU. If I remember correctly, each 7790 should sport a single six pin aux power connector because it draws over 85 watts each at full load (170 watts total for two cards). Adding in just rough numbers for the rest of your system and you'll easily more than top 240 watts for your two cards, basic system, hard drive, and CPU.

How much PSU will you need? Well, step back before you buy the cards and make sure of a few things:

1) that you have two PCI-e x16 (full length) slots available. Obviously if you have only one full length x16 PCIe slot twin cards do no good...
That card should hang out in the 75-100 watt area under very heavy load. The 400 watt recommendation is for a full system with some room to spare.

If you plan to run 2 of them you also need a board that supports such a feature. It is not too likely that a system with crossfire support would come with a 240 watt power supply.

Can you get a picture of the power supply label?
 

Rookie_MIB

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Upgrade the PSU. Even if you had a 'magical' PSU which could put out the necessary power in spite of its rating, you still wouldn't have the required connections for the PSU. If I remember correctly, each 7790 should sport a single six pin aux power connector because it draws over 85 watts each at full load (170 watts total for two cards). Adding in just rough numbers for the rest of your system and you'll easily more than top 240 watts for your two cards, basic system, hard drive, and CPU.

How much PSU will you need? Well, step back before you buy the cards and make sure of a few things:

1) that you have two PCI-e x16 (full length) slots available. Obviously if you have only one full length x16 PCIe slot twin cards do no good for you.
2) determine if your chipset will support SLI or Crossfire. This is rather important because even if it is a full length slot, it might only be -wired- for x4. What you need is a minimum of 1 @ x16, and 1 @ x8. That's all determined by the motherboard chipset which provides the PCIe lanes or the CPU (which you didn't specify).

So, if you have two PCIe full length slots AND they are wired in a minimum x16/x8 configuration THEN you determine the PSU.

As mentioned, the cards together will draw 170 watts at load, motherboard about 50 watts, CPU is a guess - if we guess 90 watts that would run a pretty wide gamut of choices from AMD and Intel, toss in about 20 watts for a drive or two and a fan and it guesstimates to about 330 watts. That would be everything running full tilt and worst case scenario (from the PSU's perspective).

Now, PSU's run in their 'sweet spot' in the 50-70% load range, so divide 350 by .70 and you're looking at needing a minimum of a 500 watt PSU. This would give you some headroom (PSU's don't like to run 100% for long periods of time) and when you buy the PSU make sure it has two 6 pin PCIe power plugs (adapters are not an ideal solution).

As to your question as to whether your current setup can run reliably on a 250w PSU with a graphics card (as you bought it), the answer is - probably. A lot depends on exactly what you've got which (again) you didn't really specify. A light weight video card (40w), CPU (50w), mobo (50w), drive + fans (20w) would fit easily under the 240w max your PSU can supply.
 
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Jundals NZ

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well thanks for taking the time to explain it but i think its a bit over my head. im alright at some technical stuff on the pc but open it up and im out of my element other than the basics haha, i think ill just take my PC into the store and get them to have a look for me, should be alright with a new psu but i remember last time they said my motherboards a uncommon one so that could be a problem though. just my luck. Anyway cheers for your asnwer and actually explaining it :)
 

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If it's a budget system that may be the case. Best thing to do is take it in if you're not sure on the tech side...