Lower latency between me (Europe North West) and North America and Korea

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RikTelner

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Before you answer, there are two scenario's:

Scenario #1
I'm having 20Mbps network. 25ms ping in Western European servers of a game. I have Windows 7 and are allowed to install everything on the computer. I can't upgrade internet. I can't change laptop. I can't change provider. I have 4 logical * 1.8GHz Intel processor and 4GB RAM. Is there a way to drop the ping?

Scenario #2
I'm once rich pile of turd. I'm ready to sign up for provider, and I'm ready to buy up to 500 euro each month. But my ping has to be less than 60ms at North America and Korea at all times. I'm using Linux (doesn't matter which). I have 32 physical * 4.0GHz Intel processor and 64GB RAM. Is this by any way reachable?

In both scenartio's, my position remains Europe, either Eastern, Western or Northern. Download speed doesn't have to be enormous, but reasonable.
 
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bill001g

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Lets assume you have no problems with your computers or routers and there is no issues with the connection to your house.

The ping times are then pretty much a measure of distance. It really doesn't matter how much you want to pay the data will pretty much travel at the speed of light and there is little you can do about it. Now a larger issue is the fiber optic cables do not always go in the most direct path. Not much you can do about mountains or hostile countries that might cut the fiber or maybe just spy on it. A lot of the fiber is run along the coasts in the ocean.

Even then fiber can only transmit the light so far before it must be amplified and that causes small delays also.

Pretty much you buy from a ISP that has the best access to fibers going where you need. They should be able to have the least delay but no matter how hard you try you will never get the latency less than the speed of light.
 
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Thank you very much for your informative answer.

but no matter how hard you try you will never get the latency less than the speed of light.
300ms, would be distance of 90000 km to travel for light. And Earth has 40075 km in it's cirumference. That means that light can circle entire Earth roughly twice and a half within 300ms. Rough estimate of distance between where I live and center of South Korea is 8700km, adding 10000km just because cables don't go straight, they need to go here and there. That's barely 50% of entire Earth's cirumference, while light travels 250% of it. Meaning that light signal would be able to transfer itself here and back to South Korea 5 times.

So 70ms cannot be faster than speed of light. Light travels 21000 km in 70ms, previously estimated distance between me and South Korea is 18700km through networking, stuff. Meaning that 70ms would be just about 1.25 times the speed it requires to go to another direction and back (ping is back and forth... I assume you know that, you're specialist, no offense). That means, that 70ms from Netherlands (I'm there) to South Korea would be just exactly time it needs to receive request, process it and send result back. And since fiber optics are light based, shouldn't this be kind of, possible?

Are you entirely sure, there's no ISP with specific fiber optics that may have just these connections with the world?
Also, you considered the case of Scenario #2, but what about Scenario #1?
 
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bill001g

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I guess I should just post it can't be done, this is what happens when you try to give a simple explanation.

Even with your calculation you have to admit you are very close to your magic 60ms response time.

You are looking at the speed of light in a vacuum it is much more complex than that. You need to take into the account the refractive index of the fiber itself as well as the diameter of the fiber since even with lasers it bounces off the inside of the fiber strands. Then ever 100km or so you must regenerate the light that is lost out of the fiber and into the coating. This all adds time. This is only the fiber transport part there is massive amounts of ISP routers and switches in the path that add delays. Its not like a router can optically switch things so you get huge delays converting from electrical to optical and back

You are outright being silly to even think 500 euro a month is any money at all. If you were to spend the huge money to have fiber bored directly to you house...likely a couple hundred thousand euro just to connect to the nearest telco that has fiber. You would then have to lease the fiber from that location to your other location. The company I work for lease fiber between some cites in france and we pay 23000 euro/month and it only goes a couple hundred km.
 
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