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KwisatzHaderach

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Approximate Purchase Date: 1 Month or so

Budget Range: 1000 to 1500 (less is better, shipping doesn't matter)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming is pretty much it.

Are you buying a monitor: Hopefully the Asus Swift but that is far in the future, have 1080p now

Parts to Upgrade: New build expect Titan X

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg and Amazon

Location: Columbia, SC, USA

Parts Preferences: Intel, Asus, Corsair

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 one day 1440p,

Additional Comments: Want to use Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 case if possible(or something similar or recommended)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Through a strange and wonderful fate, I just received a Titan X for free. I want to take full advantage of it.

Notes: I am usually building budget or mid tier builds so something in this prince range is beyond my working knowledge. I have never spent nearly that much on a single component so I really don't know if I need X99 or just stick with Z97 since its a single card. I don't need this build to be crazy or anything I just want to make sure I don't bottleneck the Titan X.

I wanted to ask the community here at Tom's what would be some good components or builds that could take advantage of the Titan X.

THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP :)
 
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TechyInAZ

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Congrats!! since you have that much money, might as well go X99:

Overkill, but with that much money why not lol.

If you want an Asus mobo, go with an Asus X99-A.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($263.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.88 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Total: $1380.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Vosgy

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He said less is better.
I'd go with:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gZMMgs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gZMMgs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Total: $1090.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-26 21:03 EDT-0400
 
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g-unit1111

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Why would you get a 5820K for gaming though? I would get a 4790K and also a Noctua D15, that would be a better investment for gaming IMO:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($100.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: A-Data XPG V2 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($154.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Total: $1157.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-26 21:04 EDT-0400
 
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mapesdhs

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Or put together a used X79 system like I did at massively reduced cost, use the savings for a better SSD (I bagged
a 256GB 850 pro), get your better monitor upfront (I bought a GTX 980, TitanX wasn't out back then), ie. I built this:

Antec 302: 45 UKP (BIN, new)
Thermaltake Toughpower 1kW: 50 UKP (nearly new, normal auction)
Rampage IV Extreme: 113 UKP (BIN refurb)
i7 3930K C2: 225 UKP (BIN new; running at 4.8GHz)
H80 with better NDS fans: 65 UKP (refurb, but new fans)
256GB 850 Pro: 103 UKP (new, normal auction)
Seagate ES.2 2TB Enterprise SATA: 50 UKP (new, normal auction)

The only items I bought fully new were the RAM (2x8GB GSkill TridentX 2400Mhz) since used 16GB RAM
bargains don't really exist, the GPU (EVGA GTX 980 ACX 2.0) and the usual DVDRW as they're so cheap
(about 12 UKP).

Voila, I get the full 40 PCIe lanes (so no worries about future SLI fun), running fine in PCIe 3.0 mode, and it's quick as heck:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3988087


TechyInAZ is right though, if you have the budget then at the very least go X99, or if you fancy the penny-pinching
challenge to squeeze out even more then hunt for used stuff (I've built seven X79 systems in this way so far,
five of them 3930Ks, a 3960X and a 3970X; I've saved more than $2000 just on the PSU purchases).

Something TechyInAZ didn't mention though, X99 or X79 is definitely recommended if as you say you don't want
to bottleneck the TitanX.

Good luck with the build!! :)

Ian.

 
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mapesdhs

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Correct.

Not unless you want to make use of newer storage options of course, some of them may impact
what you can do with certaim boards.

However, if you don't want to risk bottlenecking the TitanX, it's worth getting a 6-core just for
that alone, and there are several X99 boards which don't have OTT multi-GPU options, and of
course as others have said above, the 5820K is ideal for such cases.

Personally I just wouldn't pair a GPU as high up as a TitanX with only a quad-core.

Note that others are bound to post varying opinions about this, but it's a fact, some games do
work better with more than 4 cores. Without knowing exactly what you're going to be playing
though, and without the time to delve into how each game behaves, I would always err on the
side of financial sensibleness and buy a 6-core setup for a GPU that powerful, especially if you
plan on moving up to 1440p later.

If you want to buy all-new, then consider TechyInAZ's suggestion (I would choose an ASUS
board and slightly other alternative parts, but something basically like that lineup for sure),
or if you do want to save pennies then have a ponder about what I said, such an approach
would allow for a better system drive SSD, etc. Or mix & match. :D

Ian.

PS. Re your UID... eek! It's the Shadout Mapes! ;D (re my real name, I had that a lot at uni, hehe)



 
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KwisatzHaderach

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The games I was looking at would be Witcher 3, Star Citizen, Planetside 2, Metal Gear Solid V, and some other newer games.

Also would M.2 take up lanes? What would take up lanes outside of a Graphics card that would affect me?

I think if I buy X99 I will have to buy it slowly to make sure I get good parts as I can afford them.

Haha gotta love Dune :)
 
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mapesdhs

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KwisatzHaderach writes:
> The games I was looking at would be Witcher 3, Star Citizen, Planetside 2, Metal Gear Solid V,
> and some other newer games.

Heh, bingo, I'm not familiar with any of those, so can't comment on what degree a 6-core would help.
Best to hunt down TitanX product reviews, see if you can find one which used any of the above, and
tested CPU dependency issues.

Mind you, I do know that Elite Dangerous can benefit from a 6-core, which is what I'm mainly playing atm,
so if Star Citizen could end up behaving in any way similar then the extra cores would be wise (not for
the basic game play of course; rather, for when there's oodles of ships present in a big battle, that
sort of thing).


> I think if I buy X99 I will have to buy it slowly to make sure I get good parts as I can afford them.

Oh I hunt for good parts alright. ;) I just exploit what's available on the used market, or often they're
new items but sold via normal auction. I won two Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSDs (new, still sealed)
for about 40% less than buying them new from a normal source. PSUs have been the biggest saving,
but also cases, etc. Even the OS; I bought a whole stack of unused Dell Win7 pro 64bit OEM discs
and COAs for diddly squat (media packs from unsold entry biz desktops).

Getting a Rampage IV Extreme for only 115 UKP though, that was a real bargain IMO. Used to cost
waaay more than that when new.

However, if you do have the budget, then buying all-new does mean full proper warranties & peace
of mind for everything.


> Haha gotta love Dune :)

Seen it soooo many times... memorised the Litany at high school in 1985 as I thought it was cool as heck. :D
And Alicia Witt rules!

Ian.



 
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mapesdhs

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Read his OP, he doesn't want to bottleneck the CPU. There's a good chance a mere 4-core
will do that for some games. Whether the titles he lists above behave that way I don't
know, but saying he should just objectively get X or Y without any rationale makes no sense.
Have you evidence that a max of 4-cores will not bottleneck any of the games he mentions?
I hope so, because otherwise the certainty of that recommendation is null.

My main earlier point was one can build a much faster 6-core X79 system
for less than a new Z79 build, but I understand the attraction of buying
all new in this context re his degree of experience.

But don't just say do this or that without explaining why, that helps nobody.
For those searching for info who find these forum pages, explaining the why
is very important. It adds context which can help people decide whether the
given advice may no longer be valid by the time they end up finding the thread.

Ian.

 
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Duh, read what I said. :D My post earlier was for used parts, eg. Rampage IV Extreme for only 115 UKP,
which is a very good price indeed. New/unused 3930K was 225 - 40 PCIe lanes and much cheaper than a 5820K.
Ditto the other parts. I wish people would read others' posts properly... and btw, how many times did I mention
3930K? That's the mainstream 40-lane 6-core CPU that's still incredibly potent and much easier to oc than HW-E.

You are though right about PCIe lanes, hence my comment about Z97 IMO not being suitable if one wishes to
have future storage tech plus all 16 lanes for one GPU. Z97 imposes compromises, X99 does not (or at least
less of them with a 5820K). X79 has none, but then it doesn't have M.2 anyway so that's a moot point, though
fully fledged M.2 products aren't mainstream atm so doubly moot (and for most games the gain of an M.2 over
any decent normal SSD isn't going to be that much; just having any kind of SSD at all is what really helps).

I said way back elsewhere that Intel by now should long since have moved the midrange chipset onto
between 24 and 32 PCIe lanes. It's just silly to expect users to have to mess about with PCIe lane
compromises if they do or don't use particular storage options with/without multi-GPU, though some
mbds get round this by connecting an M.2 port elsewhere, or using PLEX switches for SLI/CF, or both,
which adds cost.

Ian.

 
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He already has the Titan, was given it for free. His budget is easily enough for an X99 build, and he doesn't
want to risk bottlenecking the GPU. Maybe the games he's listed would not be affected in this way, but I'm
not familiar enough with them to say (except perhaps Star Citizen, which if it's anything like E.D. should gain
from a 6-core under heavy combat conditions).

Although he's not going to have more than 1 GPU, ruling out the ability to resolve a CPU bottleneck by buying
Z97 doesn't seem wise to me.

I specialise in getting the best out of used or otherwise auctioned parts, but he does have enough for a new
X99 build.


Must dash, preparing dinner for gf... :D

Ian.

 
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