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which GTX 970 should i buy?

hi there,

i am looking to upgrade my system and my graphic card choice is a GTX 970.
the only problem is that i dont actually know which one to choose.

or is it really all about how much money i want to spend?
many people are saying that the msi 4g is the best choice, performance and overclocking wise.
But can that really be true when you compare it to the zotac amp extreme or other gpu which cost 50-60 euro more? factory clock speeds cant be the explanation for that, right? 2x vs 3x fans make a difference of course, but not 50€ ?!

looking forward to reading your advices.

thank you,
david
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  1. This one seems to be very popular around here. It hits the sweet spot among all the GTX 970's.
    Strong but not too loud and not too hot:

    MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card
  2. The MSI Gaming is the best overall card - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/14
    "That brings us to the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G, and of the three it's this one that stands out as the best. At £282, it's the cheapest on test and only £20 more than reference pricing. Despite this, its solid boosting credentials means it matches the EVGA for speed in most tests. The slightly lower than dual slot height of the cooler also makes it a good choice for those looking to run two GTX 970 cards in SLI. Furthermore, it has the beefiest power delivery system of all three cards, and with this we managed to overclock it to a level that actually surpassed the GTX 980 at stock speeds. Your mileage may vary, of course, but this is undeniably a fantastic result. Add in the super quiet operation and semi-passive cooling mode, and you've got yourself a truly awesome graphics card."

    Performance - Gigabyte G1 - http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-gtx-980-roundup-vergleichstest,testberichte-241658-18.html
  3. Please provide us with:
    a| a budget
    b| A preferred site and location
    c| an expected purchase date

    All of the above will help us guide you to a purchase as most makers can set themselves apart with not just VRAM but with memory and core clocks overclocked out of the factory. Furthered by the fact that there may also be an aesthetic pull towards a product ;)

    Oh and also
    d| your monitor resolution

    By the way are you currently working with the components listed in your sig?
  4. Msi gaming.
  5. Lutfij said:
    Please provide us with:
    a| a budget
    b| A preferred site and location
    c| an expected purchase date

    All of the above will help us guide you to a purchase as most makers can set themselves apart with not just VRAM but with memory and core clocks overclocked out of the factory. Furthered by the fact that there may also be an aesthetic pull towards a product ;)

    Oh and also
    d| your monitor resolution

    By the way are you currently working with the components listed in your sig?


    hi, thanks for your help in advance :)

    here we go:
    a) there is no specified budget for me. i was even willing to buy the zotac extreme (core) edition but then chose to gather more info because of all the confusing stuff i read (it was like everyone gave another advice in their tests and analysis to me)
    budget = what it takes

    b) there is no preferred site i wanna purchase the gtx from. the shops location should be within germany though. i don't need over average shipping costs and delivery times. which leads us to my

    c) purchase date: as soon as possible. the moment i can honestly tell that i will make a good choice/get a good advice i want to purchase the card. hopefully that will be when this thread is marked green ;)

    d) oh yes, almost forgot it.. my monitors resolution is 1920x1080 on 120hz

    maybe i should say that my tower is the fractal define r4 which is pretty, pretty big. say 3x cooler cards can also be concidered (when it makes sense of course)

    my current setup is listed in my signature, thats right. but i am looking forward to upgrading some key-components:
    mobo to: msi z97 gaming 3/5 or asus maximus VII ranger (should be a good choice, right?)
    cpu to: 4790k - this is absolute
    cpu cooler to: noctua nh-d14
    dram: most likely 16 additional gigs of corsairs vengeance 1600 999

    that part will be done in a few months though.

    hope you can work with this info!

    ah and j-lor, explanations make it easier to understand opinions/advices ;)
  6. Then it sounds like you can choose any gtx970. I'd prefer the MSI Gaming version. I like quiet and cool and knowing that it will power on when triggered to do so.

    Some though like performance, performance and performance. Then the Gigabyte G1 is aimed at keeping them happy.
  7. i7Baby said:
    Then it sounds like you can choose any gtx970. I'd prefer the MSI Gaming version. I like quiet and cool and knowing that it will power on when triggered to do so.

    Some though like performance, performance and performance. Then the Gigabyte G1 is aimed at keeping them happy.


    haha this was unexpected, it was like the gigabyte version jumped into my pc when i read your "performance, performance and performance"

    yes i am kind of a performance guy. and since my r9 i think any gtx will appear pretty quiet to me.

    when you say performance though, what exactly do you mean?should be higher fps rates, right?
    is it absolute for a gtx 970 that has a higher clock to perform better than one with a lower clock?
    or do the gtx 970 differ more than i expected them to until now? do even lower clocked gtx 970s sometimes perform better than higher clocked versions?

    if gigabyte g1 gaming cards actually do have the best performance of all gtx 970s, i will definitely go for that one!

    hope you'll help me figure this out :)
  8. "when you say performance though, what exactly do you mean?should be higher fps rates, right?" - YES - see: http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-gtx-9...

    "is it absolute for a gtx 970 that has a higher clock to perform better than one with a lower clock?" - Yes. There's really no difference between them in this regard. BUT - for high clocks you get high temps. So you need a good cooler.

    For performance, I'd go for the Gigabyte. Good cooling, fairly quiet, high factory set overclock, good rep company/good support.
  9. Alright to first serve up and whet your appetite, here is a little insight into what the core clock and memory clocks are and why they are important to help you make an informed decision:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1762825/memory-clock-core-clock-video-card.html
    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2129965/difference-gpu-clock-speed-memory-clock-speed.html
    That should lead you to the terms on this thread:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/340404-33-wolfram-overclocking-guide

    With that out of the way hey, your're welcome, but honestly we haven't come that far yet :)

    Thank you for following up on the questions.
    If there is no budget I would say pretty much any brand and any GTX970 is possible for inclusion into your system and that technically makes things a little easy though when I read that you're going for an Intel upgrade path with the highest end 4th gen 1150 socketed CPU, for a moment, I thought if you'd be interested in going with a GTX980 suggestion? :evil:

    That being said, for a single 1080p monitor, that(a GTX980 or even a GTX970) would definitely be overkill but that just means you can max out pretty much any game out there - though assuming you're getting a GTX series card for gaming alone as rendering duties would be best handled on a workstation grade card. If we are talking about multi-monitor gaming or multitasking then that is worth the upgrade.

    For reference's sake:
    CPU: FX 8350 @ 4.8OC + CPU Cooler: Macho Rev.A
    MB: Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0
    RAM: 2x4 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
    GPU: R9 270X Toxic Boost @ 1340 Core
    PSU: Aerocool GT-700 700W
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4

    ^ very nice specs and when you'll transition to an i7-4690K build that would be even spectacular as that wouldn't produce much of a bottleneck if going with a GTX980.

    There are more brands out there outside of the two stated here though would you be partial towards a brand or color scheme(provided you have a scheme going on right now)?

    Following up on your latter question:
    Quote:
    do even lower clocked gtx 970s sometimes perform better than higher clocked versions?
    Higher frequencies will result in a bump in frame rates.
  10. For the best performance, get the EVGA FTW+ 970. I have one and it performs much better than some Gigabyte G1 970's I returned.
  11. Best cooler/overclocker is Gigabyte G1.
  12. i7Baby said:
    "when you say performance though, what exactly do you mean?should be higher fps rates, right?" - YES - see: http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-gtx-9...

    "is it absolute for a gtx 970 that has a higher clock to perform better than one with a lower clock?" - Yes. There's really no difference between them in this regard. BUT - for high clocks you get high temps. So you need a good cooler.

    For performance, I'd go for the Gigabyte. Good cooling, fairly quiet, high factory set overclock, good rep company/good support.


    thank you a lot, i7Baby. your description + Lutfijs background info made things a lot clearer to me.
    looks like gigabyte is the way to go.

    Lutfij said:
    Alright to first serve up and whet your appetite, here is a little insight into what the core clock and memory clocks are and why they are important to help you make an informed decision:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1762825/memory-clock-core-clock-video-card.html
    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2129965/difference-gpu-clock-speed-memory-clock-speed.html
    That should lead you to the terms on this thread:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/340404-33-wolfram-overclocking-guide

    With that out of the way hey, your're welcome, but honestly we haven't come that far yet :)

    Thank you for following up on the questions.
    If there is no budget I would say pretty much any brand and any GTX970 is possible for inclusion into your system and that technically makes things a little easy though when I read that you're going for an Intel upgrade path with the highest end 4th gen 1150 socketed CPU, for a moment, I thought if you'd be interested in going with a GTX980 suggestion? :evil:

    That being said, for a single 1080p monitor, that(a GTX980 or even a GTX970) would definitely be overkill but that just means you can max out pretty much any game out there - though assuming you're getting a GTX series card for gaming alone as rendering duties would be best handled on a workstation grade card. If we are talking about multi-monitor gaming or multitasking then that is worth the upgrade.

    For reference's sake:
    CPU: FX 8350 @ 4.8OC + CPU Cooler: Macho Rev.A
    MB: Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0
    RAM: 2x4 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
    GPU: R9 270X Toxic Boost @ 1340 Core
    PSU: Aerocool GT-700 700W
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4

    ^ very nice specs and when you'll transition to an i7-4690K build that would be even spectacular as that wouldn't produce much of a bottleneck if going with a GTX980.

    There are more brands out there outside of the two stated here though would you be partial towards a brand or color scheme(provided you have a scheme going on right now)?

    Following up on your latter question:
    Quote:
    do even lower clocked gtx 970s sometimes perform better than higher clocked versions?
    Higher frequencies will result in a bump in frame rates.


    just...wow! so much text, it was great to read that stuff. things are not nearly as complicated as they looked to me before!
    you really made my day.

    i love my monitor and i guess i will stay at 1080p for at least a year or two. performance and graphics nowadays really are amazing but i used to play at lower framerates at low graphic settings with ok-performing pcs. 1080p on high presets is really a highlight for my eyes :) even when considering only the gtx 970 and not the i7, this rig is the best one i ever had.

    and of course.. who wouldnt love to go for a gtx 980? it would be a little dream come true for me. but paying 200€ more for a graphic card with "just" 500mb more vram? of course the 980 would "last for decades" even when not going for SLI. he closer the gtx 980, the further the i7 (for me that is). would you choose the 980 over the 4790k and being left alone with a fx 8350? i dont want to talk bad about amd, i just want to know if 970+i7 would be "worse" than 980+fx8350.

    the prob for me is that i cant stick with my r9 270x anymore. i need a new graphics card that can handle stuff way better.

    or can compromises be made in my situation? because i cant see any..unfortunately!
  13. Now that I know your absolute intentions um, i5-4690K+GTX80 ? :)

    Though you would need to know one more thing; there is the issue with the GTX980's having 500MB less than a GTX970 so a true 4GB card in the GTX lineup with Maxwell's architecture is the GTX970. However this doesn't show up as an issue on alot of games only a few.

    + explain
    Quote:
    stuff
  14. Lutfij said:
    Now that I know your absolute intentions um, i5-4690K+GTX80 ? :)

    Though you would need to know one more thing; there is the issue with the GTX980's having 500MB less than a GTX970 so a true 4GB card in the GTX lineup with Maxwell's architecture is the GTX970. However this doesn't show up as an issue on alot of games only a few.

    + explain
    Quote:
    stuff


    i5 + 980 or i7 + 970.. hmm
    isnt the i7 the better choice? you just made it harder for me to decide again, man :( haha

    which setup do you think is more promising (based on future games)?

    and what the face do you mean with the GTX 970/980 issue? wasnt it the 70 that had 3.5g instead of 4g and the 80 was true 4g? :O or did something new come up with the gtx's AGAIN? i hope you are trolling me :/
    fyi: i even looked at the calendar to see if its april fools day!

    stuff: games, my demand on "ultra" settings, playability, stutter-free, beautiful to see...
  15. Quote:
    fyi: i even looked at the calendar to see if its april fools day!
    :rofl: my bad, need more caffeine+its been a long night :)
    Yeah the GTX970 was the one who had 500MB less accounted for. The GTX980, however, was more the star striker in Nvidia's mainstream lineup of GPU's with a full 4GB onboard.

    Since we're talking about a few months before the CPU is purchased I think its a good starting point to save up a little bit more for a better CPU. As you might already know Skylake may just be around the corner as Broadwell has been announced and demonstrated at events. Even more so if they do come around in full swing you're looking at a socket revision and ofc support for DDR4 which effectively means a CPU+mobo+RAM upgrade in one bill.

    If we were talking about rendering duties then I'd have suggested going to the i7 but since we're talking about calculated spending for gaming then the i5 pulls it off nicely but my comment a line above would be a wiser (preemptive)move to make.

    As per the GPU's, right, now if the GTX 980 is the way we're going:
    Galax GTX980 HOF
    EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Classified K|NGP|N Edition
    ASUS MATRIX-GTX980-P-4GD5
    ASUS STRIX-GTX980-DC2OC-4GD5-SP
    Gigabyte GV-N980G1 GAMING-4GD
    GTX 980 GAMING 4G
    Gainward GeForce® GTX 980 Phantom
    Palit GeForce® GTX 980 Super JetStream
    Inno3D Geforce GTX 980 OC 4GB
    I didn't bother with Zotac as they have had a very bad run with their non reference design GTX980's - oh well, here you go

    You could also check out caseking.de

    I've tried my level best to arrange the cards in descending order so you can make a calculated decision on which to go for as their prices will vary and if in the case of Galax cards you can purchase off of Galax's online store and have it shipped to you. Again you can make an educated decision as to which card would be feasible to purchase given the knowledge you now know :D

    Mind you the ASUS Poseidon is a limited edition card and is clocked lower than the Matrix/Strix. The Galax and EVGA are practically neck and neck with clocks so the deciding factor between those two would be in the bells and whistles they offer. At this point the Gigabyte card doesn't look very interesting :P IMO though.

    Also
    Quote:
    just...wow! so much text, it was great to read that stuff. things are not nearly as complicated as they looked to me before!
    you really made my day.
    You're welcome+Thanks but I'm just here to help ;) + quality not quantity
  16. Whatever you go with also largely depends on your budget. GT980 cost 40% more than 970 for 10% more performance. The 970s are definitely better bang for the buck.

    For gaming the i5 4690k and a GTX970 is an excellent combination.

    an i7 is great if you also want to video edit.
  17. Lutfij said:
    Quote:
    fyi: i even looked at the calendar to see if its april fools day!
    :rofl: my bad, need more caffeine+its been a long night :)
    Yeah the GTX970 was the one who had 500MB less accounted for. The GTX980, however, was more the star striker in Nvidia's mainstream lineup of GPU's with a full 4GB onboard.

    Since we're talking about a few months before the CPU is purchased I think its a good starting point to save up a little bit more for a better CPU. As you might already know Skylake may just be around the corner as Broadwell has been announced and demonstrated at events. Even more so if they do come around in full swing you're looking at a socket revision and ofc support for DDR4 which effectively means a CPU+mobo+RAM upgrade in one bill.

    If we were talking about rendering duties then I'd have suggested going to the i7 but since we're talking about calculated spending for gaming then the i5 pulls it off nicely but my comment a line above would be a wiser (preemptive)move to make.

    As per the GPU's, right, now if the GTX 980 is the way we're going:
    Galax GTX980 HOF
    EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Classified K|NGP|N Edition
    ASUS MATRIX-GTX980-P-4GD5
    ASUS STRIX-GTX980-DC2OC-4GD5-SP
    Gigabyte GV-N980G1 GAMING-4GD
    GTX 980 GAMING 4G
    Gainward GeForce® GTX 980 Phantom
    Palit GeForce® GTX 980 Super JetStream
    Inno3D Geforce GTX 980 OC 4GB
    I didn't bother with Zotac as they have had a very bad run with their non reference design GTX980's - oh well, here you go

    You could also check out caseking.de

    I've tried my level best to arrange the cards in descending order so you can make a calculated decision on which to go for as their prices will vary and if in the case of Galax cards you can purchase off of Galax's online store and have it shipped to you. Again you can make an educated decision as to which card would be feasible to purchase given the knowledge you now know :D

    Mind you the ASUS Poseidon is a limited edition card and is clocked lower than the Matrix/Strix. The Galax and EVGA are practically neck and neck with clocks so the deciding factor between those two would be in the bells and whistles they offer. At this point the Gigabyte card doesn't look very interesting :P IMO though.

    Also
    Quote:
    just...wow! so much text, it was great to read that stuff. things are not nearly as complicated as they looked to me before!
    you really made my day.
    You're welcome+Thanks but I'm just here to help ;) + quality not quantity


    just...wow! (wait, what? again??!)
    but this time.. i got dizzy from the prices.thank you for all the info you put together for me again, Lutfij.

    its just like i7Baby says, the 70s clearly is better bang for the buck. and instead of going for an 80, i would rather invest the price difference in an i7. i dont edit videos though. i would rather stream or record gaming sessions. should be childs play when i read about shadowplay. and to record/stream without significant performance drops.. what does one want more?
    i had lots of trouble recording with my fx and r9 setup. i hope that will be gone for good as the 970 arrives.


    i7Baby said:
    Whatever you go with also largely depends on your budget. GT980 cost 40% more than 970 for 10% more performance. The 970s are definitely better bang for the buck.

    For gaming the i5 4690k and a GTX970 is an excellent combination.

    an i7 is great if you also want to video edit.


    thanks for helping me open my eyes again ;)

    how come that you know what to say at the right times? if thats one of your habits, it really is remarkable.
    we might have gone a bit off topic but that doesnt matter any more i guess :P

    since thats the current situation, you two said that an i5 is pretty good for gaming but an i7 definitly holds more for the future. considering streaming and recording in full hd with this pc (completed build with new everything we talked about)
    would you advice me to buy the i7 or the i5?
    and is it possible if you tell me a few motherboards with a good price/experience range? maybe a gaming series mobo from asus or msi/gigabyte would suite the components harmony best? maximus ranger/msi z97 series?

    i am really happy that you borrowed me some of your time to help me "find my path" again.

    cant wait to see what my final rig will look like.
  18. "would you advice me to buy the i7 or the i5? " - the i5 would be fine for streaming and recording. The i7 would be better.

    i5 - $240. i7 - $340. Depends on your finances and how much advantage you personally would get out of it.


    Recommended mobos - see: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-intel-amd-motherboard,3902.html
  19. You said no budget thus the 980 ;)

    +
    http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-to-delay-skylake-processors-for-desktops-to-third-quarter/
    since you're making a jump its best you go all the way or go home :P

    I've actually provided a caseking link on my post above so you can scope out a card within the GTX970 range and that too something that is within your budget as you now know what to look for in a GPU.

    Tell you what, for a proposed build/upgrade advice it'd be best to open a new thread under the systems section if you'd like advice on the CPU, mobo+ram combo.

    * revised link
  20. i7Baby said:
    "would you advice me to buy the i7 or the i5? " - the i5 would be fine for streaming and recording. The i7 would be better.

    i5 - $240. i7 - $340. Depends on your finances and how much advantage you personally would get out of it.


    Recommended mobos - see: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-intel-amd-motherboard,3902.html


    Lutfij said:
    You said no budget thus the 980 ;)

    +
    http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-to-delay-skylake-processors-for-desktops-to-third-quarter/
    since you're making a jump its best you go all the way or go home :P

    I've actually provided a caseking link on my post above so you can scope out a card within the GTX970 range and that too something that is within your budget as you now know what to look for in a GPU.

    Tell you what, for a proposed build/upgrade advice it'd be best to open a new thread under the systems section if you'd like advice on the CPU, mobo+ram combo.

    * revised link


    ah lutfij i think we misunderstood each other there.
    when i said no budget, i actually meant for the 970 range.

    i will inform myself about the new intel cpu gen and then i will see if i want to go for those or if i am using the "older" gen.
    x99 mobos and ddr4.. seem to be a pretty big thing. but for my needs and especially overall budget that could become difficult.
  21. Nah, its all kewl man :)

    Even if we're looking at the 970 there a good number of cards from the same brands mentioned above:
    e.g:
    Card make and model - base clock/boost clock
    Galax GTX 970 HOF 4GB - 1228/1380
    EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ ACX 2.0+ 04G-P4-3978-KR - 1216/1367
    Gigabyte GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD - 1178/1329
    MSI GAMING 4G GOLDEN EDITION - 1165/1317
    Galax GTX 970 EXOC BLACK EDITION 4GB - 1164/1317
    Gainward GTX 970 Phantom 4GB - 1152/1304
    Palit GTX 970 JetStream NE5X970H14G2-2041J - 1152/1304
    MSI GAMING 4G - 1140/1279
    MSI GAMING 100ME - 1140/1279
    Asus GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-BLACK - 1114/1253
    STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-SP - 1114/1253
    Gigabyte GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - 1114/1253

    All of them offer round about the same thermals all round and this is where the pricing per clock would be the deciding factor.
    Is this a good price when we consider this being shipped out to your doorstep?

    *
    Quote:
    2x vs 3x fans make a difference of course, but not 50€ ?
    I also forgot this point, cards with higher clocks will naturally produce more heat as they are overclocked when compared to the reference version and thus they require a beefy cooling solution. Depending on the technology and the brands following they may charge you as high as 50 Euro's or more.
  22. Lutfij said:
    Nah, its all kewl man :)

    Even if we're looking at the 970 there a good number of cards from the same brands mentioned above:
    e.g:
    Card make and model - base clock/boost clock
    Galax GTX 970 HOF 4GB - 1228/1380
    EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ ACX 2.0+ 04G-P4-3978-KR - 1216/1367
    Gigabyte GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD - 1178/1329
    MSI GAMING 4G GOLDEN EDITION - 1165/1317
    Galax GTX 970 EXOC BLACK EDITION 4GB - 1164/1317
    Gainward GTX 970 Phantom 4GB - 1152/1304
    Palit GTX 970 JetStream NE5X970H14G2-2041J - 1152/1304
    MSI GAMING 4G - 1140/1279
    MSI GAMING 100ME - 1140/1279
    Asus GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-BLACK - 1114/1253
    STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-SP - 1114/1253
    Gigabyte GV-N970WF3OC-4GD - 1114/1253

    All of them offer round about the same thermals all round and this is where the pricing per clock would be the deciding factor.
    Is this a good price when we consider this being shipped out to your doorstep?

    *
    Quote:
    2x vs 3x fans make a difference of course, but not 50€ ?
    I also forgot this pint, cards with higher clocks will naturally produce more heat as they are overclocked when compared tot eh reference version and thus they require a beefy cooling solution. Depending on the technology and the brands following they may charge you as high as 50 Euro's or more.


    good morning

    your advice for the evga looks great. at least i think thats your advice since you pointed that one out? :)

    i actually can get it cheaper, for 400 instead of 450€. do you think that one would be the better choice?
    seems to perform slightly worse than the g1 in benchmark tests and its about 30€ more.

    and thank you for the note about the cooling options. technology is a big factor about pricing actually. didnt think about it that way.

    i want to order the 970 today and i actually was ordering the gigabyte when i saw that the tomshardware addon for chrome showed me that someone replied to this thread. guess i will just have to wait a little longer :P
    additional to the gpu i am getting the noctua nh-d15 cpu cooler already, wanna see how much that can help my fx 8350.

    looking forward to hearing from you, lutfij!
  23. Good afternoon! (with respect to my timezone) + You're welcome!

    As we don't know your purchase source/site/shop we don't effectively know which products are priced higher or lower. The reason I laid out all those brands and cards in that order is so you can gauge which one would be worth purchasing as the Galax is the highest in both performance, clocks, benchmark and ofc pricing and not to mention in the GTX970 range. I've ordered from the UK and know the same applies in Europe when you factor in taxes and shipping thus posting US links maybe misleading as a Gigabyte card may be cheaper than the MSI card but in Germany/Europe it can be the other way round. I know for a fact that Asus cards are favorably priced and that's why there are plenty of Deutch build logs featuring them. In terms of aesthetics I'm more partial towards EVGA and Galax designs both in the backplate, cooler/shroud and layout. Mind you the Galax is a white PCB with a white aluminium backplate ;)

    We'd need to pull up another thread to inquire about the cooler but for the sake of discussion you might want to reconsider as the Nocuta cooler may cause conflicts with your ram modules although it shows up as compatible You may also look into Cryorig's R1 Ultimate cooler - Its also compatible

    Hope that answers your inquiry...what are you waiting for? Go off to your purchase?
  24. Lutfij said:
    Good afternoon! (with respect to my timezone) + You're welcome!

    As we don't know your purchase source/site/shop we don't effectively know which products are priced higher or lower. The reason I laid out all those brands and cards in that order is so you can gauge which one would be worth purchasing as the Galax is the highest in both performance, clocks, benchmark and ofc pricing and not to mention in the GTX970 range. I've ordered from the UK and know the same applies in Europe when you factor in taxes and shipping thus posting US links maybe misleading as a Gigabyte card may be cheaper than the MSI card but in Germany/Europe it can be the other way round. I know for a fact that Asus cards are favorably priced and that's why there are plenty of Deutch build logs featuring them. In terms of aesthetics I'm more partial towards EVGA and Galax designs both in the backplate, cooler/shroud and layout. Mind you the Galax is a white PCB with a white aluminium backplate ;)

    We'd need to pull up another thread to inquire about the cooler but for the sake of discussion you might want to reconsider as the Nocuta cooler may cause conflicts with your ram modules although it shows up as compatible You may also look into Cryorig's R1 Ultimate cooler - Its also compatible

    Hope that answers your inquiry...what are you waiting for? Go off to your purchase?


    hello there,

    i wasnt asking for help when i stated the cpu cooler :P (no offense!!!) it was more like: i am curious about the new cpu temps under full load and about how stable the OC will be. i already did all research needed for the d15 cooler :)

    and about the galax, it's either gonna be that one, the g1 or the MSI, still looking up info for the galax's OC ability. but i really like the finish and the stats are remarkable as well. pricing is the same as for the ftw+. you can also look up the prices for all the other 970s there if you are interested in the prices for german consumers.

    why the MSI is considered again: overclock ability. only heard the best about that card. it mostly ended up at the same or slightly lower clock speeds as the oc'd g1/ftw+. and it even costs 40€ less.

    the FTW+ seems to have probs with the clock speeds. so that one is out for me, seems like a gamble to either hit a great performing card or a bad one. i dont wanna end up returning the card 10 times until i am struck with luck.

    i will let you know which one i ended up ordering ;)
  25. Quote:
    (no offense!!!)
    Non taken :)

    Quote:
    i already did all research needed for the d15 cooler :)
    That's the spirit! :D

    Quote:
    you can also look up the prices for all the other 970s there if you are interested in the prices for german consumers.
    Yeah I'm doing that as we speak...

    Edit, Yeap, I just went through the list and in terms of pricing you are getting a very good deal for the HOF card and as such is under 400Euro's whereas the EVGA card is a little above 400. If you were paying clock for clock you were overpaying for the EVGA(although minor)!

    Point, set and match - Galax/KFA 2 card it is! :)
  26. Lutfij said:
    Quote:
    (no offense!!!)
    Non taken :)

    Quote:
    i already did all research needed for the d15 cooler :)
    That's the spirit! :D

    Quote:
    you can also look up the prices for all the other 970s there if you are interested in the prices for german consumers.
    Yeah I'm doing that as we speak...

    Edit, Yeap, I just went through the list and in terms of pricing you are getting a very good deal for the HOF card and as such is under 400Euro's whereas the EVGA card is a little above 400. If you were paying clock for clock you were overpaying for the EVGA(although minor)!

    Point, set and match - Galax/KFA 2 card it is! :)


    yeah that card really is impressive. but did you hear about the v1 and v2 split those serial produced cards have? like the v2 that is out now has lower oc potential and is lower clocked from start? yes i know, 1380 factory boost clock is anything else but low. but the clocks seem to be like with the FTW+ (downclocking under heavy load). is that an issue i can expect most brands cards to have nowadays? that all good chips are sold already? because then i might as well go for the MSI version that is 10% cheaper but gives me most likely a 1450-1500 OC or even a 1500+ OC instead of buying a highly oc'd card by factory defaults that costs more and ends up being even worse performing.

    oh man.. seems like a never-ending search until the new gen is launched next year haha
  27. I can't say I've dug up on the V1+V2 of that card, no, but it could be possible as all new products tend to undergo some changes after the community finds something wrong with said product. Even games have them in the form of Alpha and Beta testing but inspite of all these tests there is bound to be an error.

    Downclocking(or throttling as its termed) only takes place when you have poor airflow and a cooling solution in your chassis.

    That being said the GPU chips that go into any/all HOF card are cherry picked units similar to how Asus make their Matrix cards and EVGA's Kingpin cards. They need cherry picked chips since they will be more tolerant/forgiving on high voltages and/or abuse. If we're talking about teh MSI's potential to overclock to those numbers then all of the aforementioned cards can do that if you plan to overclock at a later date however out of the box the MSI card is much lower int eh order and that 10% price reduction is warranted to which end I'll definitely recommend this card as its priced lower than the MSI Gaming 4G and is clocked higher. Mind you we're not comparing it to the MSI Golden Edition which would be a worth while buy after the Galax and EVGA.

    You're a little swayed to the MSI card right about now...though that's what you've made me think via your posts.

    If you want I can forward you to a Galax HoF brand rep to find relevance in my info ;) removing your doubts...

    BTW, brands aren't making it any easier for us either we get these questions more often than not :)
  28. Hey, I just wanted to add my +1

    I live in the Netherlands currently so I order all my stuff from amazon.de They usually have the cheapest price in this region, with free shipping and amazing and trustworthy return policies. I have been running EVGA cards on and off among other brands and they have stood out to me in terms of reliability and AMAZING customer service (and even upgrade paths), so I would highly recommend the EVGA FTW or SSC models:

    http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NSXYEQW/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1JG40HP9GHG9DPFEQC3Y&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128
    http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NYRDNAK/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1JG40HP9GHG9DPFEQC3Y&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128

    390 euro and 360 euro respectively.

    You could also have a browse through the UK Amazon store (amazon.co.uk). They sometimes have EVEN lower prices, 2-3 day delivery for about 5 pounds..

    As for your CPU choice, if you want to mainly use it for gaming, the i5 would be plenty enough for the upcoming years with the 970 combo (even if you want to go SLI later). But don't just blindly believe me, here is what TOM's say about your CPU choice:

    "CPUs priced over £170 offer rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to gaming performance. As such, we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than the Core i5-4690K, especially since this multiplier-unlocked processor is easy to tune up to 4.3 GHz or so with the right cooler. Even at stock clocks, though, it matches or beats the old £800 Gulftown-based Core i7-990X Extreme Edition in our benchmarks.

    We have seen a small handful of titles benefit from Hyper-Threaded Core i7 processors, though. Because we believe this is a trend that will continue as developers optimize their software, we're including the Core i7-4790K as an honorable mention, now selling for £260. In a vast majority of games, the Core i7 won't demonstrate much advantage over the Core i5. But if you're a serious enthusiast who wants some future-proofing and values highly-threaded application performance, this processor may be worth the extra money."

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32901-4.html

    Hope that helps,
    Cheers, Bara
  29. if the selection takes place like you said i will not complain :P it just made me curious when i read about the issues i stated above.
    but if there really is nothing to worry about i will for sure go for the hof version.
    i cant see a link in your "this card" btw. there is every card listed from high to low price.
    did you click on the card you wanted to show me or did you just copy the link with all cards listed?

    ah and how would you forward me to a rep?
  30. Quote:
    ah and how would you forward me to a rep?
    Via PM or email :) though when he will get back to your inquiry maybe a little too long to bear as you want a definite answer asap.

    Quote:
    i cant see a link in your "this card" btw. there is every card listed from high to low price.
    did you click on the card you wanted to show me or did you just copy the link with all cards listed?
    I arranged the cards, as seen in the link, to cater to highest to lowest pricing and then compared the clock speeds with those listed according to the price. woops :whistle:

    E.g, when we were on the topic of going with an MSI card:
    These were the cards:
    KFA² GeForce GTX 970 EXOC Infinity Black Edition, 4GB - this was the link in "this card"
    Gigabyte GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD

    Both have the same clocks but the Gigabyte is priced higher.

    while the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 100ME is clocked lower but is priced higher... not going to bring this guy into the argument :P
  31. baracubra said:
    Hey, I just wanted to add my +1

    I live in the Netherlands currently so I order all my stuff from amazon.de They usually have the cheapest price in this region, with free shipping and amazing and trustworthy return policies. I have been running EVGA cards on and off among other brands and they have stood out to me in terms of reliability and AMAZING customer service (and even upgrade paths), so I would highly recommend the EVGA FTW or SSC models:

    http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NSXYEQW/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1JG40HP9GHG9DPFEQC3Y&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128
    http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NYRDNAK/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1JG40HP9GHG9DPFEQC3Y&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128

    390 euro and 360 euro respectively.

    You could also have a browse through the UK Amazon store (amazon.co.uk). They sometimes have EVEN lower prices, 2-3 day delivery for about 5 pounds..

    As for your CPU choice, if you want to mainly use it for gaming, the i5 would be plenty enough for the upcoming years with the 970 combo (even if you want to go SLI later). But don't just blindly believe me, here is what TOM's say about your CPU choice:

    "CPUs priced over £170 offer rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to gaming performance. As such, we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than the Core i5-4690K, especially since this multiplier-unlocked processor is easy to tune up to 4.3 GHz or so with the right cooler. Even at stock clocks, though, it matches or beats the old £800 Gulftown-based Core i7-990X Extreme Edition in our benchmarks.

    We have seen a small handful of titles benefit from Hyper-Threaded Core i7 processors, though. Because we believe this is a trend that will continue as developers optimize their software, we're including the Core i7-4790K as an honorable mention, now selling for £260. In a vast majority of games, the Core i7 won't demonstrate much advantage over the Core i5. But if you're a serious enthusiast who wants some future-proofing and values highly-threaded application performance, this processor may be worth the extra money."

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32901-4.html

    Hope that helps,
    Cheers, Bara


    yo bara, thank you for speaking up!
    your part really made me think about the cpu i wanna buy. so instead of buying a 4790k i should go with the 4690k and still hit the top performance mark... and when streaming/recording with shadowplay i shouldn't even consider performance issues when playing games like bf4 on ultra? i always thought that the 8 threaded CPU were best for that. BF4 is one of the games benefiting from the 8 core i7 when i got that right in the article about the high-end gaming CPU. do you think that a 4690k would still do a great job there? and how is it about games like the crysis series and other very demanding games?

    about your evga card.. i think you read what i wrote above with the performance issues i read about when i only wanted to check out the benchmark results? that is what made skeptical about those cards. i considered the FTW+ to be one of the cards i would eventually purchase.

    is there anything you can say to that matter? it for sure is great if you have a good support but imo it is best if you dont need support at all.


    Lutfij said:
    Quote:
    ah and how would you forward me to a rep?
    Via PM or email :) though when he will get back to your inquiry maybe a little too long to bear as you want a definite answer asap.

    Quote:
    i cant see a link in your "this card" btw. there is every card listed from high to low price.
    did you click on the card you wanted to show me or did you just copy the link with all cards listed?
    I arranged the cards, as seen in the link, to cater to highest to lowest pricing and then compared the clock speeds with those listed according to the price. woops :whistle:

    E.g, when we were on the topic of going with an MSI card:
    These were the cards:
    KFA² GeForce GTX 970 EXOC Infinity Black Edition, 4GB - this was the link in "this card"
    Gigabyte GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD

    Both have the same clocks but the Gigabyte is priced higher.

    while the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 100ME is clocked lower but is priced higher... not going to bring this guy into the argument :P


    haha lutfij, you sure are making my decisions harder and harder again :P
    which one would you go for? like overall within the 970 range.
    the EXOC sounds great, too! but now i am on the point again where i dont know what to go for anymore -.-
  32. Best answer
    HOF hands down if you can afford it and if you can't go that far but want for a lower priced option the EXOC I linked is equally capable of trumping the Gigabyte and MSI cards!

    I'm an architect and I tend to sway towards aesthetics but I almost always bundle function into the mix. I also believe in providing info for clients to make an informed decision - you shouldn't have to come around full circle and complain about a purchase due to misinformation...now would you? :)
  33. alright then. now i gotta see if i will go for the HOF or the EXOC. gonna look up info on the EXOC in comparison to the HOF now :D
    maybe even the EXOC will fit my needs :)
  34. Keep us posted + I apologize for giving you a migraine :P
  35. Lutfij said:
    Keep us posted + I apologize for giving you a migraine :P


    migraine? feels like a major bleeding :(

    BUT i finally ordered.. the EXOC.
    hope it will be holding its promises :)

    will let you know when i can tell more about that!
  36. Oh :'( send me the medical bills then.
    FYI - hemorrhaging doesn't take place if I tap you on the shoulder(s) :P

    Looking forward to your Nvidia GTX experience... :lol:
  37. rakuzaN said:
    hi there,

    i am looking to upgrade my system and my graphic card choice is a GTX 970.
    the only problem is that i dont actually know which one to choose.

    or is it really all about how much money i want to spend?
    many people are saying that the msi 4g is the best choice, performance and overclocking wise.
    But can that really be true when you compare it to the zotac amp extreme or other gpu which cost 50-60 euro more? factory clock speeds cant be the explanation for that, right? 2x vs 3x fans make a difference of course, but not 50€ ?!

    looking forward to reading your advices.

    thank you,
    david



    **Get the EVGA GTX 970 FTW on newegg.com for $110 right now**
    *Having 2 or 3 fans can change the size of the fan*

    Hey, David. Deciding which model of graphics card to get can be easy (GTX 970) but which manufacturer? That's another story altogether. It really depends on what the main focus of your GPU will be; but here are the best GTX 970s for the purposes listed:

    (Please note that when trying to overclock, it's a complete gamble. A reference card may overclock more than a G1 Gaming just because the GM204 is unique)

    Silence: Asus Strix GTX 970
    Cooling/overclocking: Gigabyte G1 Gaming
    Price: Zotac ($310 on newegg.com)
    Features: MSI GTX 970 Gaming or 100ME

    Overview of each:

    Asus Strix- The main goal of Asus' Strix model is for silence and cooling; it is advertised as "Up to 30% cooler and 3X quieter than reference"

    Gigabyte G1 Gaming- This is a beast (312mm long!) and a cool one, too. It has the best cooling of all of them; and boosts up to (at least) 1329MHz.

    Zotac- Probably the least popular version, it's just cheap.

    MSI- I chose this to have the best features because it not only has an awesome TWIN FROZR cooler, but it has 3 modes: silent, gaming, and overclocking modes. The maximum boost clock in OC mode is 1279MHz, but you are almost guaranteed 1400MHz+ with a program like MSI Afterburner. Also it doesn't have a backplate, but the 100ME (100 million edition) does.
  38. SmileyB124,
    did you notice how far this thread has grown before responding? (36 posts long) and the trigger had been pulled?
    Please read the follow up posts before making a contribution. Most often a thread necromancy may take place if you're not careful of the time stamp(located that eh top of each forum post). We've also established that OP is not located in USA.
  39. SmileyB124 said:
    rakuzaN said:
    hi there,

    i am looking to upgrade my system and my graphic card choice is a GTX 970.
    the only problem is that i don't actually know which one to choose.

    or is it really all about how much money i want to spend?
    many people are saying that the msi 4g is the best choice, performance and overclocking wise.
    But can that really be true when you compare it to the zotac amp extreme or other gpu which cost 50-60 euro more? factory clock speeds cant be the explanation for that, right? 2x vs 3x fans make a difference of course, but not 50€ ?!

    looking forward to reading your advices.

    thank you,
    david



    **Get the EVGA GTX 970 FTW on newegg.com for $110 right now**
    *Having 2 or 3 fans can change the size of the fan*

    Hey, David. Deciding which model of graphics card to get can be easy (GTX 970) but which manufacturer? That's another story altogether. It really depends on what the main focus of your GPU will be; but here are the best GTX 970s for the purposes listed:

    (Please note that when trying to overclock, it's a complete gamble. A reference card may overclock more than a G1 Gaming just because the GM204 is unique)

    Silence: Asus Strix GTX 970
    Cooling/overclocking: Gigabyte G1 Gaming
    Price: Zotac ($310 on newegg.com)
    Features: MSI GTX 970 Gaming or 100ME

    Overview of each:

    Asus Strix- The main goal of Asus' Strix model is for silence and cooling; it is advertised as "Up to 30% cooler and 3X quieter than reference"

    Gigabyte G1 Gaming- This is a beast (312mm long!) and a cool one, too. It has the best cooling of all of them; and boosts up to (at least) 1329MHz.

    Zotac- Probably the least popular version, it's just cheap.

    MSI- I chose this to have the best features because it not only has an awesome TWIN FROZR cooler, but it has 3 modes: silent, gaming, and overclocking modes. The maximum boost clock in OC mode is 1279MHz, but you are almost guaranteed 1400MHz+ with a program like MSI Afterburner. Also it doesn't have a backplate, but the 100ME (100 million edition) does.


    hey smiley,
    thank you for responding as well! but like lutfij said, i have already bought my gtx.
    i hope you didn't spend too much time on your text but i appreciate your help :)


    Lutfij said:
    SmileyB124,
    did you notice how far this thread has grown before responding? (36 posts long) and the trigger had been pulled?
    Please read the follow up posts before making a contribution. Most often a thread necromancy may take place if you're not careful of the time stamp(located that eh top of each forum post). We've also established that OP is not located in USA.


    yo lutfij! no need to go all out on him :P
    hope you are doing well?

    my 970s been delivered last thursday. i installed it right after cleaning my pc and defusing all that cable-salad + adopting proper cable management. i better wont tell how long it took me until the pc was finally running again :kikou: ..but then..nvidia control panel :lov: ..how i missed that! never gonna let go of it again.
    this card is rated 69.5 on ASIC, is that a good rating? i wonder because it clocked to 1380 in-game without changing any settings at all (1317 boost stated on the galax/kfa2 page)
    unfortunately there wasn't much overclocking going on for my 970s.. yet!
    first i had to max my 8350s OC to 5gig :rofl: because i wanted to minimize the cpu bottleneck as good as i can with my current equipment.
    i did some benchmarks before the CPU OC. those gave me 97xx-9810ish ratings on fire strike. wasn't too happy about that... after the oc i ran fire-starter and scored 10.2k points! not much to catch up with 970 sli setups (3dmark score).
    970 was on +100 core, +500 mem and max power limit (0 power limit --> throttling, so upped it to +25 to see what was going on but still --> throttling). but i was like "well, i will increase the core by 50 and see what happens". the card was still throttling but with about +45 MHz more than with +100 core. in heaven and games it remained at 1530 boost clock consistently. i was even able to record payday 2 on 720p60 with nvidia shadow play (best feature ever by the way!!!) without throttling and/or decreasing performance. i would have never thought that would be possible before i had the EXOC :) i am curious how far this chip can/wants to go overclocking wise. the only sets i tried were +500 on mem and +100/150 core. 150 with +25 power limit, but starting to day i will see how far i can take the GTX without it.

    by the way.. the card makes a sound like blowing air into an empty coke bottle, thats sometimes really annoying. does this mean that my gtx is broken? does it go away after some time has passed? it is not consistent, just when the temp is at a certain point, mostly when i am on my desktop. should i return it and ask for a new one? i honestly don't wanna go crazy from that annoying sound but rather because of the cards performance :(

    and do you know a way for getting around that ridiculous power limit? it doesn't even heat up to 70C when under full load. or is it just because of fire strike and the ridiculous amount of performance it requires?

    opening a thread for mobo + cpu today. i can let you know if you are interested.

    now that was a wall of text! hope you didn't go blind reading it :vip:

    peace out
  40. Hi! I'm also from Germany and I'm going to purchase a HOF GTX 970. Which by the way, on MindFactory is at 398Euro, so that's nice.

    Why I'm replying to this thread is because I read every post on this topic and I was pleased to find out that my choice was a good one, and recommended. I wanted to go with MSI or Strix, but I read to many complaints about coil whine on newegg and Amazon, so I decided to go a little higher.

    My question to you is about the card's performance. I will be using it with an i5 4690k and I'm really interested in FPS games as much as racing games. I couldn't find to many reviews, or quality ones so I decided to ask a GTX 970 user, and since your card is very close to what I want, why not?

    And just because I don't want my post to be in vain, I will tell you that if you go with the 4690k you won't regret it. I cannot praise it enough. For the amount you are paying is just an insane CPU. On MindFactory you can find it at 244Euro, a great deal right now. If you only play games, as you said and make some occasional streaming, then you shouldn't worry about it. The i7 doesn't worth it unless you put his cores at work by doing video editing and 3D rendering, just my opinion.

    I have to excuse my awful English, I know I've made a lot of mistakes but, that's my max level of English :lol:
  41. Daud Al-Saghir Zaher said:
    Hi! I'm also from Germany and I'm going to purchase a HOF GTX 970. Which by the way, on MindFactory is at 398Euro, so that's nice.

    Why I'm replying to this thread is because I read every post on this topic and I was pleased to find out that my choice was a good one, and recommended. I wanted to go with MSI or Strix, but I read to many complaints about coil whine on newegg and Amazon, so I decided to go a little higher.

    My question to you is about the card's performance. I will be using it with an i5 4690k and I'm really interested in FPS games as much as racing games. I couldn't find to many reviews, or quality ones so I decided to ask a GTX 970 user, and since your card is very close to what I want, why not?

    And just because I don't want my post to be in vain, I will tell you that if you go with the 4690k you won't regret it. I cannot praise it enough. For the amount you are paying is just an insane CPU. On MindFactory you can find it at 244Euro, a great deal right now. If you only play games, as you said and make some occasional streaming, then you shouldn't worry about it. The i7 doesn't worth it unless you put his cores at work by doing video editing and 3D rendering, just my opinion.

    I have to excuse my awful English, I know I've made a lot of mistakes but, that's my max level of English :lol:


    Hi there :)

    I can only say that I'm totally hyped about my Galax GTX 970! It's the all black Infinity Black Edition. I went straight forward to 1550 without touching the hardware parts or bios. The card was stable on that clock in all games. But in FireStrike it throttled down to 1537 with 1-2 drops in critical areas down to 1526-1535MHz. A few days ago I came to stabilize it at 1557MHz, using the standard BIOS 2.0 Boost by increasing it by 47MHz (max boost clock slider), from 1.21V to 1.28V via BIOS edit to stabilize it. Had a good shot in the silicon lottery after all :D
    So yeah... I can't be happier! my cards ASIC is only 69.5 though but it still managed to reach the 1550MHz boost in pure factory state, unlike many others that have to edit their BIOS. ASIC "only" means that you get a higher boost clock than cards that are rated lower. It doesn't say anything about the cards potential in overclocking at all though. Another thing is that this card has a factory TDP of +25% which is the highest I've read of factory-sided so far. Since the HOF is the Titanic of Galax's Graphics series with a voltage tweaker Galax adds, I think you won't make any mistakes picking that one.
    Gotta say though that I'm not fully aware of how high the HOF's OC results can reach. But since 1500MHz is prelim OC result for any HOF it's not gonna hurt either :)

    And thank you for letting me know about your Intel experiences! I will go with the 4690K and if it doesn't seem to be enough I can still upgrade it easily.

    LMK how you decided about your new card ;)
    Regards
    raku

    3DMark Score: 10485 (FX 8350+GTX970) 13931 GPU Score 9977 CPU Score
  42. Glad to read a reply from you!

    I initially started to read and look at builds for 1000 euro, and from there I just read more, customized, read some more and after nights of research, I knew that i5 4690k and GTX 970 are my best buy (the MB, RAM, and PSU are not that hard - Choose 8GB of the best looking RAM in dual channel, I went with a Gigabyte G1 Sniper for Gigabyte's physical dual bios and a Seasonic 660 Platinum, that was easy), but when it came down to choose which one..I'll be damned (if I'm allowed to use this word :lol: ), but I researched my brains out, until I found Gigabyte G1 Gaming being in my price range of 370ish euro and the most powerful. After that, I said..what does it matter if I spend an extra 30 euro for the GPU (since I will buy the whole PC with a 6 months payment plan), and I saw the KFA2 GTX970 HOF. I just fell in love with it. My build will be White and Black on the NZXT H440 with some blue accents, so this GPU was what I needed.

    Well there's a wall of text, but if you want to skip it, just be sure that for me the thing that weight more in my choice over this GPU was her look, because I couldn't go wrong over the G1 Gaming. Better PCB, higher clock speeds, quieter..the perfect choice for me.

    Now, I just want to let you know that I'm not going to make any OC on this GPU because I already know that she can run everything at 1080p with 60+ FPS, but I wanted to know more precisely.

    I will make OC, only when I will receive it (you gotta test that GPU :lol: ) and when games will be more demanding and I won't afford to invest in a new graphic card.

    I'm eager for a reply from you with more tests and why not some shoots of that new sexy card ;)

    All the best!
    Zaher
  43. Daud Al-Saghir Zaher said:
    Glad to read a reply from you!

    I initially started to read and look at builds for 1000 euro, and from there I just read more, customized, read some more and after nights of research, I knew that i5 4690k and GTX 970 are my best buy (the MB, RAM, and PSU are not that hard - Choose 8GB of the best looking RAM in dual channel, I went with a Gigabyte G1 Sniper for Gigabyte's physical dual bios and a Seasonic 660 Platinum, that was easy), but when it came down to choose which one..I'll be damned (if I'm allowed to use this word :lol: ), but I researched my brains out, until I found Gigabyte G1 Gaming being in my price range of 370ish euro and the most powerful. After that, I said..what does it matter if I spend an extra 30 euro for the GPU (since I will buy the whole PC with a 6 months payment plan), and I saw the KFA2 GTX970 HOF. I just fell in love with it. My build will be White and Black on the NZXT H440 with some blue accents, so this GPU was what I needed.

    Well there's a wall of text, but if you want to skip it, just be sure that for me the thing that weight more in my choice over this GPU was her look, because I couldn't go wrong over the G1 Gaming. Better PCB, higher clock speeds, quieter..the perfect choice for me.

    Now, I just want to let you know that I'm not going to make any OC on this GPU because I already know that she can run everything at 1080p with 60+ FPS, but I wanted to know more precisely.

    I will make OC, only when I will receive it (you gotta test that GPU :lol: ) and when games will be more demanding and I won't afford to invest in a new graphic card.

    I'm eager for a reply from you with more tests and why not some shoots of that new sexy card ;)

    All the best!
    Zaher


    hehe the HOF would be my #1 style-choice as well! It just looks better than all the other 970s imo. Would have looked awesome in my all-black PC since it'd have been the only bright piece of hardware in my PC. Kinda like "take a close look" especially when you know the 970s performance.
    The only reason I went for the EXOC is that I didn't want a card that's 3-Fan'd. I owned the R9 270x TOXIC before and it was such an oversized card that I wouldn't buy a card of that size again.

    Did you end up buying the HOF now? If you did, let me know how you like its performance :)

    I ended up buying the ROG Ranger + 4690K today. Maybe we can compare some benchmark results later on ;) I'm curious if your new pc will do better than my rig because then I know what to go for when the time for a new PC comes :D
    I'm also curious about my Infinity's performance once it'll be combined with Intel and PCIe 3.0.

    Keep me updated!
    raku
  44. Hehe..
    I'm glad now, more than ever about my choice.
    I haven't purchased it yet, I had the chance to test only the CPU (4690k) in a friend's rig, but he was using it with a 980. That convinced me, with the 4690k you can't bottleneck such a powerful card, and the only bottleneck he can do is when you'll have Titan X in SLI (even though, playing Tomb Raider, the game who doesn't rely on CPU at all :lol: you won't have a problem).

    Long story short, I'll have to wait for my parts until the summer, because right now, my job doesn't allow me to be too much at house, and when I am, I only spend a night of sleep, so there's that. The good part is until I purchase those parts, they will come down a little bit in price, and that will be also nice.

    Just because I don't want to forget..
    Why you don't like 3 fan cards? If I read well, then I'll have to understand that only because they are a tad longer. I will always chose a 3fan card (or more :lol: ) because more fans, means less noise at the same temps. (don't ask me how I'm so sure about this :oops: )

    Anyway, you can post some benchmarks, and be sure that I'll follow this thread without hesitation.

    Zaher!
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