Difficulty Installing Win 7 64bit on Samsung 840 EVO SSD

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I've been trying to install Win 7 64bit on a Samsung 840 EVO SSD (250 GB) with little success.

I returned the first SSD, convinced it was that. Was not, the problem was the same.

I purchased a new version of Win 7 64bit, thinking it was the installation disk. Was not, the problem is the same.

Previously, I did successfully install Win 7 32bit. I ran it for a day or two and all was fine, until I discovered my mistake (I want the 64 bit for the memory extension).

The installation of Win 7 64 goes along okay, sort of, very slow, but it eventualy gets itself installed. The problem then is that it won't boot up. Hang up is usually after the welcome screen and after I put in my username and password. Screen and system goes dead after that.

The motherboard I have is a Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R. Gigabyte tells me that there shouldn't be any problems with the setup.

I also have a second system running Win 7 64bit off of a Samsung 128GB SSD with no problems. Runs great in fact. Different motherboard.

Any suggestions out there????

Thanks,

JJ
 
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It probably has to be initialized before using it in any manner, incliuding attempting to partition or install to it:

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/How-to-initialize-your-SSD-Windows/ta-p/111492



Disconnect ALL other drives from the system prior to installing the OS, so that if there are hidden boot partitions from other installations, they don't interfere. (

After re-attaching secondary drives, upon completion of reinstalling Windows, that may have had boot or OS partitions on them, it's probably a good idea to go into disk management and delete any non-data storage partitions that may be normally hidden or contain boot partitions that might interfere with the normal progression of the windows boot process.)


Then, make...
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It probably has to be initialized before using it in any manner, incliuding attempting to partition or install to it:

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/How-to-initialize-your-SSD-Windows/ta-p/111492



Disconnect ALL other drives from the system prior to installing the OS, so that if there are hidden boot partitions from other installations, they don't interfere. (

After re-attaching secondary drives, upon completion of reinstalling Windows, that may have had boot or OS partitions on them, it's probably a good idea to go into disk management and delete any non-data storage partitions that may be normally hidden or contain boot partitions that might interfere with the normal progression of the windows boot process.)


Then, make sure you have AHCI enabled in the BIOS. Following that, use the CLEAN method to install:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html
 
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I'm assuming your SATA controller has been set to AHCI (as darkbreeze has mentioned) which would normally be the default. Could you check the BIOS/UEFI?

Could you also set the motherboard to Optimum settings just to see if that has any impact?

I wonder if the problem has something to do with entering a password. Could you try installing the OS without using a username/password and see what happens?
 
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I'd also make sure you don't have the SSD connected to a secondary SATA controller if there are any on the motherboard. Looks to me like there are as I see six pink and two orange SATA headers. Once color or the other is going to be the primary controllers and the other will be secondary, often ASMedia controllers, which don't generally work as well as the commonly used Intel controllers.

Also, since that's an older board, make sure you have the very newest bios version installed for your motherboard model AND revision, since there are three revisions of that board. Double to check to see you also have the newest chipset and storage controller drivers available from the motherboard product page as well.

Here are some other things you can check in addition to all of the previously listed items:

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2583515/basic-troubleshooting-layman.html
 
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DarkBreeze and ArtPog

Thanks for the suggestions. I've been installing with only the SSD on the system, no other HDDs. AHCI was NOT the SATA setting, so I'll reinstall with AHCI after I update the BIOS (I think one of my previous installs was AHCI). I could find no way of checking the BIOS/UEFI, have any suggestions there?

Thanks - JJ



 
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What do you mean you "have no way of checking the BIOS/UEFI"? Checking it for WHAT? All you need to do is go into the BIOS and on the main page it should tell you what version is currently installed.

What is your motherboard revision number? It should be printed on the motherboard itself or may be reported IN the BIOS as well.
 
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Success!!!

I think the major blockage was the AHCI, which I had disabled. My old system wouldn't boot with it on, but the old system would recognize the SSD. One note there, when the BIOS boots a message appears saying that the current AHCI only supports HDDs and CDs. But the SSD is working fine. I suppose the SSD is emulating an HDD.

Also I upgraded the BIOS, but I don't think that made the difference. I could never find UEFI, might only apply to booting from a USB drive?

Thanks a gazillion DarkBreeze and ArtPog!

JJ

 
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Congrats. Nice job.

Now that you have an OS on an SSD, you might want to make sure it's aligned by reading this:

http://lifehacker.com/5837769/make-sure-your-partitions-are-correctly-aligned-for-optimal-solid-state-drive-performance



And then optimize it by running the Samsung Magician utility and performing the optimization routine and allow the power profile configuration and such. I'd also recommend while doing that to set the overpartioning and enable RAPID.

http://techreport.com/review/25282/a-closer-look-at-rapid-dram-caching-on-the-samsung-840-evo-ssd
 
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DarkBreeze,

Thanks for the follow on. Implemented all your recommendations. System running great. Can't wait for the day when there's not a single HDD in my house and HDDs will be a memory as distant as the Betamax.

Cheers,

JJ
 
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For long term storage, or data that will be written and re-written OFTEN, that is not the OS or applications, I recommend keeping a HDD attached to the system, especially for backup purposes, as mechanical drives have a tendency to retain data and tolerate drive cluster usage for much longer periods of time. For HDD I generally stick with 7200RPM, 64MB or higher cache drives like the WD black series (No Red or Green) or Caviar blues. The Seagate and Hitachi drives are fine too.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2457966/shouldnt-put-ssd.html#14957705
 
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Good points. I keep two back up drives, rotating a new one in every four or five years. Point I was making is that it looks like SSD of one form or another is the evolutionary direction. It will be interesting to see what, if any differences 3D memory will bring. (Intel is expected to be releasing evaluation chips this summer.)

JJ
 
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