Looking for mobo, FX - 6300 Black Edition No OC, SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon R9 280X 3GB, Win 7 - 64

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Hello all,

I'm new to this forum but I came here because of the great reputation this site has. I'm doing an upgrade to the wife's gaming machine. I'm going to lay out it's current specs and what I've done and plan to do and the experience I've had.

Purpose of system - Wife likes to play MMO's, she likes WoW, Terra (graphic heavy) and Diablo 3. I'm trying to build a system that will have very high FPS in games like this. I also want Windows to function seamlessly, no system lag.

History of system - This PC was bought prebuilt from iBuyPower nearly 3 years ago.

Old/Current Specs

  • Win 7 - 64
    Azza Solaris Mid ATX case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517025
    ASrock N68-VS3 FX - http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/n68-vs3%20fx/ **Updated to latest bios **
    8 Gig DDr 3 budget ram - Not sure, it's not high performance.
    Old - FX4100 replaced -------> New FX - 6300 <------ Thermal Take aftermarket Cooler
    Power Color Radeon 6670 1 Gig DDr3
    1 TB Seagate Mechanical HD
    450W Artic PSU replaced -----------> 600W CXCorsair

Experience
I installed the Sapphire Vapor X R9 280X 3GB, Corsair CX600 psu and the FX - 6300 Black Edition all at the same time and got no post, just black. After hours of troubleshooting I finally wiped the system, fresh Win 7 w/ all drivers w/ Sapphire R9 280X and still NO POST. I took the Saphire out and replaced with the old Power Color 6670, it posted, booted and logged into windows perfectly. But now I have bad stuttering in Diablo 3 and Windows is generally moving slower than it ever has. I seem to be getting worse performance with the FX 6300 than I ever got with the FX 4100.

I'm guessing it's the mobo bottle necking, the mobo in this machine is micro ATX entry level and is old. So folks, what do you think?

Is it the mobo? My mobo budget is $150.00 plus whatever shipping is. If it is the mobo, what mobo can I cram in this case? What mobo is a good fit for the Sapphire R9 280X Vapor and the FX - 6300 Black edition? Future proof would be nice but not required. I'd prefer to order from a place like Newegg.

Side note - I RMAed the Sapphire r9 280X just to be safe.
Side note - My current FX 6300 systen lag is even worse when using Firefox w/ multiple tabs opens, browser freezing constantly, this never happened with the FX - 4100
 
Solution
It's definitely the motherboard... I would recommend my motherboard, which is the
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a99fxpror20

If you can find the EVO variant for cheaper, that one is fine too:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a99xevor20

The Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 is also a great option.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga990fxaud3

Pick any of those and you'll be fine, including for overclocking. Although you stated you don't want to...

You can go cheaper even and still be fine with the:
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga970aud3p

Or
Asus M5A97 R2.0
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20
It's definitely the motherboard... I would recommend my motherboard, which is the
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a99fxpror20

If you can find the EVO variant for cheaper, that one is fine too:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a99xevor20

The Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 is also a great option.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga990fxaud3

Pick any of those and you'll be fine, including for overclocking. Although you stated you don't want to...

You can go cheaper even and still be fine with the:
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga970aud3p

Or
Asus M5A97 R2.0
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20
 
Solution

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Yes it is reused from the original Fx 4100, I cleaned the surface of the aftermarket heat sink very well and reapplied new Arctic 5 Thermal paste in a small X across the heat sink before reinstalling.
 
Just go with the cheapest - the 970a-ud3p - it doesn't really have any weak points at all & is a superb board. spending more on a 990 series board would be a worthless expense IMO.

Spend the money saved from that $150 budget on a ssd mate - makes a huge difference to general use
 

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So out of all of those and the 970a-ud3p, which would be the highest quality option?
 
Any of those boards will for a grand job - the m5a97 r2 is the weakest.

The 990 boards are a newer chipset - but not much extra benefit IMO.
I'll say again - bang for buck the ud3p will do everything you need for $80 - out of the 990 boards the m5a99 evo for $100 (if you believe in the rebates) is the best buy easily.
 
It would be the best price/performance option. The GA-990FXA-UD3 is superior, but only significant if you want crossfire or SLI. The Asus M5A97 R2.0 is indeed the weakest of all of them though. But all of them would be fine if you don't overclock, and that inclues the M5A97.

I picked my motherboard because I have a great experience with Asus hardware all around and I like their software. And I wanted to upgrade without reinstalling windows, and I thought if I switched brands that I might run into more problems. Worked out well in the end too lol xD
 
^ to be fair you could overclock a 6 core on any of them to your hearts conent - & an 8 core pretty much.
Running the ud3p myself with an oc 8320 + 280x crossfire setup - there's no performance loss anywhere even with the 2nd pcix slot being 4x (doesn't matter a jot with a crossfire bridge)
 
+1 for the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P. I had a very good experience with it.

Got my FX 6350 to 4.950 GHz stable on this board. It was also stable at 4.5GHz at BELOW stock voltage.

Very good OC/tweaking support and LLC voltage control on this board, better than the UD3. I have OC'd multiple FX CPUs on both.

Another issue is your old MoBo supports DDR3 1600 RAM. The new board supports the native speed DDR3 1866 for the FX series and will also allow RAM overclocking as well as CPU overclocking. But that's a conversation for another thread. :)
 

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Ok I'mma go with the m5a99 evo. It is well within budget range. I will say this has answered my question I will report back when install is complete. Thank you to NightAntilli and madmatt30 you guys have been a big help! Link Karma for everyone!
 
^ yeah - I'm running my 8320@4.3 at less than stock voltage too - the board copes incredibly well with fsb overclocks with regards to voltage.

I just think its an incredibly good board for the price - people seem to be put off because its cheap for some reason.
 

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***UPDATE***

I would like to give a small update because folks helped me so much. So I went out and bought the m5a99 evo and installed it into the Azza Solaris Mid ATX along with the FX 6300 Black Edition and the Sapphire r9 280X 3GB Vapor. Using the aftermarket Thermaltake CPU fan and the 8 GB of budget ram with a fresh Win 7. It still did not boot.

So I took the Sapphire out and put in the old Radeon HD 6670 and it booted right up. so I RMAed the Sapphire and the RMA was recently accepted. I'd like to note....

The machine is running exceptionally well, much better than it ever did. I'm thinking this mobo/processor combo is pretty darn good. I'm see excellent FPS in Diablo 3, Heroes of The Storm and World of Warcraft. Windows is SUPER FAST and snappy and the sleep and boot times are extremely fast. Over all I have to say this MOBO is killer with lots of proprietary features that add tons of value. The CPU also stays at a frosty 36°C on load. I'm really impressed.