How will this PC handle Next-Gen gaming?

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.26 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.34 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£54.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£43.98 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£274.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower Classic 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.55 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Total: £755.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-30 20:35 BST+0100

I plan on getting that PC really soon
I've done some heavy tweaking to the old build and stretched my budget to 750gbp

Going to be running only one 1080p monitor
Not sure if to addd more fans, but it's pretty cold in my house since I live in the country where 300 days out of 365, it rains

Will do some minor upgrades to the PC in the future such as GPU, RAM, HDD and CPU changes but im sure I won't change my motherboard for a while
Never going to be using SLI or Crossfire

Im going to be using this PC to play some next-gen titles such as Fifa 15/16, Battlefield: Hardline, Grand theft auto V etc.

I have windows already but I will get a new monitor and keyboard after I sell my current all-in-one PC. I have my own gaming mouse which im keeping

So should I do any changes or something that could be changed so that the price is lower?

- Elemential

ingtar33 · Mar 30, 2015

100% overkill for 1080p unless you mean 1080p 144hz, and even then it's 100% overkill.

that's a 1440p gaming rig. you can save a lot of money scaling it back and won't notice any difference in 1080p 60hz

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

ingtar33 :

Forgot to add that im going to be streaming CSGO mostly and some other games sometimes. My monitor will most likely have a 144Hz refresh rate so don't worry about that

jazzy663 · Mar 30, 2015

As someone who has dang near that exact hardware, I can say you'll be set for a long time for 1080p.

ingtar33 · Mar 30, 2015

Elemential :

ingtar33 :

Forgot to add that im going to be streaming CSGO mostly and some other games sometimes. My monitor will most likely have a 144Hz refresh rate so don't worry about that

you should be good then.

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

jazzy663 :

I was wondering if the CPU could handle streaming on twitch using OBS

jazzy663 · Mar 30, 2015

Elemential :

Easily. A friend of mine has a 3570K (slightly weaker than the 4590), and streams with it just fine.

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

Also was wondering if to go micro atx or just atx. Was thinking it would be good to go with micro atx for more airflow in the case but to go with atx for the price and features

sizzling · Mar 30, 2015

Great build, I would not say its overkill for 1080p though, its perfect for 1080p. I have effectively the same except a GTX 780 and the 970 is only about 10% faster. On the latest games even with a big overclock I can only just keep my fps at 60 @ 1080 with adaptive v-sync in games such as Advanced Warfare by dialling down one or two settings from max. The 970 should let you max out and maintain 60fps

JackNaylorPE · Mar 30, 2015

The one change I would make would be a SSHD over a HD especially since it's actually cheaper. A 2TB is only 20 more
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx001

The GFX card is what I'd recommend currently for today's games and by that I mean AAA titles. .... right now the 970 is capable of handling the most demanding stuff at ultra settings at 40-60 fps. ... in 18 months you'll want a 2nd if you want to play everything. For that reason I recommend a Z97 / 4690k as it provides the ability to OC and add a 2nd GFX card down the road. A EVGA B2 750 is only £12 moire

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

I most likely will never do sli as im just using one monitor
If I ever need something more demanding afterwards, then i'll go for a 980/ti or a titan x/z
Not sure if I should change the psu to be honest
I will never overclock with this build so I won't be getting a z97 mobo or a more powerful PSU as I am not risking it
Forgot to mention I will be overclocking the CPU a bit and using Turbo on the CPU just so I can suck all that power. Im going to be doing a lot of heavy multitasking and some heavy photo editing so overclocking the GPU may give me an advantage in that.

JackNaylorPE · Mar 30, 2015

98% of peeps using CF / SLI are using one monitor. Upstairs there's 3

Twin 970s w/ 1080p IPS
Twin 560 Tis w/ 1080p 120 Hz
Twin 780s w/ 1080p 144 Hz

Two 970s bury the 980..... 50% performance increase for a 8% increase in price. One 980 = $550.... two 970s in SLI = $596 net ($646 - $50 for selling 2nd Witcher coupon).....

For example....

-Tomb Raider goes from 35.0 with a 980 to 58.7 with twin 970s for performance increase of 67.71%
-Far Cry 3 goes from 41.0 with a 980 to 68.8 with twin 970s for performance increase of 67.80%

I don't understand the "risk" in reference to overclocking.

1. We've overclocked every build we have ever done for ourselves, clients, engineering firms, colleagues, friends.... I never even heard of a real person overclocking a modern CPU and damaging it unless being totally irresponsible and / or turning off the protection features.

2. If you feel the need, you can buy a protection plan where if you damage your CPU, Intel will replace it

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/purchase-a-plan

Now do ya think if there was a real possibility of you being able to damage the CPU by overclocking, that intel would warrant the CPU for $20 ?

But I got further lost with :

"I will never overclock with this build so.....Forgot to mention I will be overclocking"

Elemential · Mar 30, 2015

Meant GPU :3

sora · Mar 30, 2015

I would personally go with two GTX 970s. Strongest deal for the price.

Xenofly · Mar 30, 2015

the pc is alright but i would get an i3 cpu as i5 is overkill

Elemential · Mar 31, 2015

Xenofly :

Going to be streaming using OBS on twitch..
So quad core is best for me

My question stil hasn't been answered :3
Micro atx or atx mobo?

Elemential · Mar 31, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.26 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£87.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£54.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£43.98 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£274.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.88 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.55 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Total: £790.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-31 08:46 BST+0100
Stretched my budget a little more
This is the highest I am going
Is this better?

Xenofly · Mar 31, 2015

Elemential :

Thats a good build, although you wont need those fans.

I recommend this motherboard which is going for a good price on amazon right now - http://www.amazon.co.uk/H97-PLUS-Intel-Motherboard-Express-Socket/dp/B00K80N54K/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1427805707&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+h97+plus

sora · Mar 31, 2015

Elemential :

It is all personal preference; I would personally just go ATX.

Elemential · Mar 31, 2015

I plan on using all three fans as I understand there is a front fan on the 200r
I plan on setting one towards the GPU and lower part of mobo. The second right across from it blowing into the hard drives
And one on the top so it's cooling the entire mobo and top part of gpu

I will be upgrading my cpu to a k version possibly so it's why i chose the z97s krait edition
Also the h97 does not support crossfire/sli which is what I will be doing soon a few months after buying the pc

JackNaylorPE · Mar 31, 2015

Elemential :

The Krait Edition is a very poor performer, (as is the Asus Z97), the S version of the Kraitd won't be any better if not worse....stick with the Gaming 5

Is your Windows a retail version or OEM ?.... OEM won't activate on your new machine

I most likely will never do sli as im just using one monitor

I will be upgrading my cpu to a k version possibly so it's why i chose the z97s krait edition
Also the h97 does not support crossfire/sli which is what I will be doing soon a few months after buying the pc

Ok, be nice to this ole man ... you're confusing me again. I think that's very wise...also for the PSU.... however ... buying the 4590 then selling it to buy the 4690k is gonna lose money and lotta time. For £17, it's hard for me to fathom not getting it from the getgo when ya already spent more for the Z97 and bigger PSU.

I know ya don't wanna spend more money ... but if ya receive a windfall, these are what I'd consider:

Faster memory, + £1 and + £8
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00A771ZSW/?tag=pcp0f-21
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0079TBV26/?tag=pcp0f-21

SSD + HD + £17 (100% speed improvement)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ELAVIQ0/?tag=pcp0f-21

Elemential · Mar 31, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£106.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£54.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£43.98 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£274.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.88 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.55 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Total: £827.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-31 19:56 BST+0100
Highest I can go with 850gbp and no more
Looking into an aftermarket cooler
The 212 evo is indeed a really good cpu cooler but I don't really like the look
If someone could recommend me a cpu cooler that is 23gbp or less, would handle an overclock well and has nice looks then it would be great!

Elemential · Mar 31, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste (£4.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£106.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£54.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£43.98 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£274.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.88 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.55 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£3.72 @ Aria PC)
Total: £857.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-31 20:20 BST+0100
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