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i have looked around and everything is telling me that i want to go with intels i7- 4 core 4.0 gz, because people say its better

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how, is it better than the amd fx unlocked, it is 8 cores 5.0 gz and 100$ cheaper. please explain
 
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Hyperthreading does NOT turn a 4 core processor into an 8 core processor .
The core does not become more powerful . It just gets to be able to do two things at he same time , each of which can only be half as strong as if the core was running one thread .

The AMD cores are also not the same thing as an intel core . They are only a part of what intel calls a core .


The bottom line is that the AMD is still very competitive where software can us all available cores . Most encoding programs work faster than with an FX than they...
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The i7 is four physical cores with hyperthreading, which equals eight core processing. AND, single core performance on Intel processors is MUCH, MUCH faster than single core processing on AMD processors. So pretty much any comparison with a similar number of cores is going to go to Intel in every case. Even the four core i5, with lower clock speeds, beats the FX chips in the majority of tasks, especially gaming, but also threaded processing of applications as well. There are situations where the FX chips beat the i5, but I haven't seen any, or at least very few, instances where they beat the i7.

It's all about core performance and number of clocks per cycle, which AMD is way behind on.
 
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And if you're talking about one of the FX-9xxx chips, you better plan to use a fifty gallon drum as a liquid cooling reservoir if you want to keep that chip from overheating. Ok, it's not quite that bad, but almost. If you DO go with an FX chip, I wouldn't recommend that it be the 9370 or 9590. For all their higher clock speed, they don't perform much better than the 8320, 8350 or 8370, if at all. Those chips were a supreme failure to launch, or perform, as it were.
 
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You make the call:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1289?vs=1260


As you can see below, the 4790k smashes the 9590 in both single core and threaded overall performance:


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also one thing to read up is the age of the cpu and if the vendor is supporting the platform or it a dead platform. the intel i5 line started few years ago with the sandy bridge chips. the newer brodwell and skylake are dropping soon. the amd fx and 900 line of mb chipsets are two years old and counting without any real refresh. pc vendors are ending life of ddr-3 ram and will be moving over to the newer ddr-4 ram. soon the cost of ddr-4 ram may be cheaper then ddr-4
also have the newer ssd m2 slots and usb 3.1x and soon usb 4x ports and pci 4x standard. intel right now is the only real mb and chipset vendor that tries with it next chipset to add more and more of the newer tech.
 
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isnt ddr 4out already? i have nothing im buying all new and have a 2k budget i need to learn everything there is to know your information is very valuabe to me. i know nothing about power supply or cooling my personal opinion is to go with the best and make sure its compatable, mabye also throw in extra cooling and extra power managment just to be safe. this might not be the place but what are the basics of 8 vrs 16 ram cause i think i understand cpus enough to move on
 
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Ok, lets answer a few questions first so we know what is going to fit your NEEDS.

What country are you in?

What are the primary uses and performance goals going to be?

How many monitors and at what resolution will you be using?

Is there anything you HAVE, and don't need, like the operating system, keyboard, mouse, monitors, etc?
 
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with ram thin of bottle soda and water isle. 4 onz cans to the 3/4 litter bottle soda. soda is the data in real world. 16 ounce sized mnt dew and a 2 litter bottle. the 16 is 8g the 16g is the one litter. how much more data at one time can the larger bottle hold. when building a pc you have set$$$ and you want x performance for those $$$.
something like a name brand power supply..faster gpu and name brand mb will be smart $$ buys over time. 8g over 16g is ask if people use a lot of open window for work/home pc or due video editing or cad or programs that need large amounts of free ram. most home and gaming pc 8g is fine. unless there a sale on ram...going over 8g for home pc gaming rig wast your build $$$
 
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Hyperthreading does NOT turn a 4 core processor into an 8 core processor .
The core does not become more powerful . It just gets to be able to do two things at he same time , each of which can only be half as strong as if the core was running one thread .

The AMD cores are also not the same thing as an intel core . They are only a part of what intel calls a core .


The bottom line is that the AMD is still very competitive where software can us all available cores . Most encoding programs work faster than with an FX than they do with an intel i5 . The i7 is usually marginally ahead , but very poor value compared to the AMD .
Intel wins where software can only use one or two threads . There they show an obvious advantage .
In everyday use with browsers and email etc that dont load a computer core the day to day experience of using either cpu is identical
 
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Intel change sockets every two years and what has gone before is obsolete and incompatible .

M.2 slots are available on AMD motherboards [ the range is smaller but they are there ]

AMD's next line up of chips for high end computers will also use DDR4 .
 
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