cant boot from UEFI NEED to create a bootable repair disk in win 8.1

jhmac777

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need to create a bootable repair disk in win 8.1 have a Lenovo ideapad and UEFI

How do I make my computer bootable?
 

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OK I created a recovery usb file but it is not bootable. I also went the route of using rufus to make it bootable in legacy(bios) then transferring it to uefi and putting the recovery material on it seem to erase the boot. Seem very complicated. Recently I heard you could make my Lenovo ideapad bootable by pressing f12 should make it bootable but it didn't. Now I am puzzled???
Jim
 
Can we assume that as things now stand your Lenovo laptop is perfectly functional? No problems booting to the OS and the system currently functions without any problems? So that your objective in creating recovery/repair media is simply a wise precaution in the event you later encounter a non-functional system? Is that the current situation?

If so, I'd like to offer you another option to achieve your objective - one that I believe is far superior to the system repair/recovery methodology one. So if you want to pursue this, so indicate.
 

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"OK I created a recovery usb file but it is not bootable. I also went the route of using rufus to make it bootable in legacy(bios) then transferring it to uefi and putting the recovery material on it seem to erase the boot. Seem very complicated. Recently I heard you could make my Lenovo ideapad bootable by pressing f12 should make it bootable but it didn't. Now I am puzzled???"

I still did not get an answer to the above problem. How do I make my recovery disk bootable in UEIF without deleting the recovery contents ? Do I add the recovery contents after I make a bootable USB? And then how do I boot it in a Ideapad S210 Touch Lenovo laptop. or can you refer me to a forum that can answer. I can buy a recovery disk for $69 big bucks.
 

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I've always installed Windows via disk. I'm sorry I can't help with this. There are two others in this thread who think they can help, but you are at the whim of them replying. Which one of artpog's links did you use? Can you try another one? (I didn't read his links.)
 

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NOT A SOLUTION
I found the following on a recovery disk which I made early last year for the same computer but I cant get it to boot.

How do I boot this usb flash drive without losing this material and is it used to recreate the correct partitions?



convert gpt
create partition primary size=1000
format quick fs=ntfs label="WINRE_DRV"
assign letter="W"
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001
set id="de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac"
create partition efi size=260
format quick fs=fat32 label="SYSTEM_DRV"
assign letter="S"
create partition efi size=1000
format quick fs=fat32 label="LRS_ESP"
assign letter="I"
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001
set id="bfbfafe7-a34f-448a-9a5b-6213eb736c22"
create partition msr size=128
create partition primary size=436224
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows8_OS"
assign letter="T"
create partition primary
format quick fs=ntfs label="LENOVO"
assign letter="O"
shrink minimum=12288
create partition primary
format quick fs=ntfs label="PBR_DRV"
assign letter="Q"
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001
set id="de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac"
exit



Thanks for any help,

Jim










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Hello jhmac777,
Did you find your solution? If not, then describe once again your present problem. Probably, I can help you as I have worked a lot on the problems of Lenovo machines.
bmbsr
 
The "real" solution to his/her problem is quite simple. Instead of creating "recovery disks", "system repair disks", and other recovery-type media, the user would be better advised to employ a disk-cloning program that will create a bit-for-bit copy of the user's system that will reside on either an internally or externally-connected drive. The process is simple, straightforward, and eminently practical.

So that in the event of the user's system drive becoming defective or the OS becomes so corrupt that the system is unbootable/dysfunctional, the user will then have at hand the means to virtually immediately restore the system to its pre-functional state. And do so without need for any complicated, tortuous "recovery" process.
 

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I contacted Lenovo support and he ran me through the process of putting everything into legacy but still my disk would not boot. He did not use f12 in the process but said my disk was not bootable. Since it has all the elements of a bootable media I have big questions about that.

All I know is during all these many years from using windows 95 to windows 7 I have never had to clone or image a drive but only relied on bootable repair drives or aid from the internet to fix a problem and I always did it on my own and never with the help of a computer repairman. This mystery of uefi is totally foreign and I prefer the "old" bios system and if I get another computer it will be a good refurbished bios system computer. At least I know how to fix them and at my age of 73 I am getting very tired of these new fangled computers.

I will have the opportunity to download windows 10 in July with system using bios instead of uefi and the preview trials are working very well now. Windows 10 Insider Preview 10074.
 
I'm inclined to sympathize with your view re UEFI mode motherboards. While there are advantages of this interface vis-a-vis our old comfortable BIOS interface (chiefly its support for the GPT partition scheme, a decidedly superior alternative to MBR), the seemingly complexity of UEFI is certainly a turnoff for those of us used to working with the BIOS interface. In a way it's a pity that the major motherboard manufacturers haven't standardized on a UEFI interface which might make the situation a bit more palatable for us users. Too often (at least in my experience) it becomes a "search & rescue" or "find Waldo" mission to locate a particular setting that one wants to review and/or change. A good deal easier with the old BIOS, that's for sure.

I do wish you would try a disk-cloning program to create & maintain a comprehensive backup of your entire system. The peace-of-mind one gains from having at hand a true copy of one's entire system cannot be overemphasized. And with the right kind of program (which I'll get to in a moment) one can employ the disk-cloning program on a routine/frequent basis so as to maintain a reasonably up-to-date backup of one's system.

The program I strongly recommend is the Casper program. I've been using this program for about a dozen years now and have never found a program its equal, let alone its superior. The beauty of the program is its simplicity of operation, its reliability, and most of all its speed.

I clone my systems a number of times per week - sometimes even daily - depending upon the importance of my data. So I always have at hand an up-to-date complete copy of my entire system. Because of Casper's speed the amount of time to complete the disk-cloning operation is quite reasonable. Naturally the volume of data that's cloned, the user's system, the types of drives involved in the disk-cloning process, will all have a bearing on the expenditure of time to complete the disk-cloning process.

Another advantage of Casper's built-in speed is that it encourages the user to employ the program *before* making any significant changes to their system, e.g., configuration

changes, adding, deleting, modifying major programs from their system, reorganizing partitions, etc. So that in the event those changes play havoc with the system the user has intact a complete copy of a perfectly functioning system at hand - one that needs no "recovery" type process to return the system to its previous functional state. I can't tell you how many times over the years that technique saved me from grief because I made unwise system changes or installed new or modified programs that created problems with my systems.

The program is a commercial one - costs $49.99 and AFAIK is only available from its developer - http://www.fss.dev

A 30-day trial version is available at https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/
The trial version is somewhat crippled in that it doesn't have partition resizing capability that the licensed copy contains. But it should give you a good idea of the operation of the commercial version. Try it - you may like it.
 

bmbsr

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How did you create the (mentioned) recovery usb disk? The proper way is to go to 'Recovery' option in control panel, now insert a usb flash drive into a usb port (the usb flash drive must be at least 16gb in size), then select 'Create a system recovery drive'. Now, a window will pop up. In this window, you will see a very small square box in front of which you will see a line 'Copy the recovery partition'. Now, the most important point is this if there is already a tick(√) mark in that small square box, it means all the recovery and OEM drives are working properly and now selecting the 'Next' will first format your inserted usb flash drive and then create a bootable usb recovery drive for you. But, be sure that this usb recovery drive will only boot if you select it from the Boot menu options in your machine. This drive will work in both UEFI and Legacy mode successfully. Hope, it will help you. If not, please let me know.