I have an extra Gigabyte Z97X BK Gaming Motherboard, and thought I'd build a system from it as I would like a high end audio computer, and this motherboard looks like a good bet for that. I have pretty much decided on the Win 904, and it doesn't come with cooling fans. I'm getting a 4790k processor, I notice that most of the reviews say that an all-in-one liquid cooling system is the best bet for this case. I'm not really a PC gamer anymore, just plan to have a 1TB solid state drive and an optical drive, so I'm not sure how much I really need. Some options I am looking at from low to high price are a Coolermaster Seidon 120v, Corsair H75, Corsair H80i, and Nepton 120xl. Should I go with one of these, or should I just go with the heatsink and fan that the Processor comes with, or should I just get the processor with no heat sink/fan, and purchase a cooler master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler? The case supports 2 fans, do any of the above options give me everything I need, or do I need yet another fan?
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Which options should I choose for a Win 904 PC Case?
- Thread starter moooog
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going out that it will be build in win 904 pc case: very poor intake and exhaust options which screams the all-in-one liquid cooling.
my suggestion:
build it in Phanteks entroo pro case and a aftermarket heatsink like the hyper 212 evo(tho i wil not reccomed this cpu cooler) you will get more bang/buck in getting Ranijitek Themis or CRYORIG H7
I assume you getting an "k cpu" to your "Z-Mobo" is because you gonna OC it right?
my suggestion:
build it in Phanteks entroo pro case and a aftermarket heatsink like the hyper 212 evo(tho i wil not reccomed this cpu cooler) you will get more bang/buck in getting Ranijitek Themis or CRYORIG H7
I assume you getting an "k cpu" to your "Z-Mobo" is because you gonna OC it right?
TechyInAZ
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Defiantly get liquid cooled, air coolers look weird in that case. 
If your not overclocking then get the cheapest out of those, or the Corsair H60.
I also suggest to buy some corsair led AF fans for the case.
If your not overclocking then get the cheapest out of those, or the Corsair H60.
I also suggest to buy some corsair led AF fans for the case.
geofelt
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That is a great looking case but it has limited ventilation.
Fortunately, you need little.
A i7-4790K will run well, even at stock.
For a cooler, the stock cooler will function, but the 92mm fan will spin up and get noisy under load.
I suggest an aftermarket cooler. Unfortunately most good air coolers, including the hyper212 are 160mm tall.
The case specs say 145mm is the max.
I suggest this cryorig which will fit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D15 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------
On fans, I think you can use a 140mm fan as intake on the bottom which should be sufficient.
I assume you will be using the integrated graphics.
If you want a strong discrete graphics card, a different case is in order.
Fortunately, you need little.
A i7-4790K will run well, even at stock.
For a cooler, the stock cooler will function, but the 92mm fan will spin up and get noisy under load.
I suggest an aftermarket cooler. Unfortunately most good air coolers, including the hyper212 are 160mm tall.
The case specs say 145mm is the max.
I suggest this cryorig which will fit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D15 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------
On fans, I think you can use a 140mm fan as intake on the bottom which should be sufficient.
I assume you will be using the integrated graphics.
If you want a strong discrete graphics card, a different case is in order.
TechyInAZ
Titan
Your rant is mostly true. However I personally go for liquid cooling so my motherboard doesn't break apart and I can use all my memory slots without a problem.
I think this might be the way to go, and I wouldn't have to have anything attached on the back of the case to boot - I want to have it sitting on the desk and look nice. It will be in our bedroom as well, so I ultimately decided against a led loaded case. I'm not planning to overclock, or install a graphics card. I do have an extra ATI Radeon 5670 1gb pci from a HTPC I built and later upgraded, but I think this motherboard will give me everything I'm looking for in regards to playing hi-res audio and multimedia, even though it's a "gaming" motherboard. I'm putting in 16 GB of Gskill trident ram along with the processor, maybe it's overkill, but I've had lots of trouble with other desktops stuttering and bogging down while trying to send audio over USB with other processes running. I hope I won't have too much trouble with cabling and connections in this case, I know it's not that big.
I am concerned about what techyinaz mentioned regarding the "motherboard falling apart and having enough space for memory?"
I am concerned about what techyinaz mentioned regarding the "motherboard falling apart and having enough space for memory?"
You should not be worried, he is talking about some big ass air vented heatsinks, but the one suggested to you and some of the only ones that can be fittet in your case have so little weight, that your mobo will be more than fine. That is the same with the memory, some of them big ass coolers can block some ram ports, but again because you case limits your cpu cooler options for small units, they will never be big enough to cause ytou issue with ram.
geofelt
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For your usage, the integrated graphics will be fine.
It will be much quieter than a discrete graphics card.
And, since the motherboard does not have pci slots anyway, the 5670 pci card can't be installed.
No need for tridentX ram. Fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing. ares 1600 will be just as good.
The case seems large to me.
Perhaps a more conventional HTPC case might serve you better.
Here is a Silverstone Grandia Series Gd08B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GG2064
It will be much quieter than a discrete graphics card.
And, since the motherboard does not have pci slots anyway, the 5670 pci card can't be installed.
No need for tridentX ram. Fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing. ares 1600 will be just as good.
The case seems large to me.
Perhaps a more conventional HTPC case might serve you better.
Here is a Silverstone Grandia Series Gd08B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GG2064
I'll take your advice on the ram, there were some nice 1600 sticks w/o the spreaders that were better deals. I'm going with the new 1TB Crucial SS drive, as that should be enough for my storage needs on this computer. I built my HTPC in a Silverstone Case, and it looks great, but I kind of need a vertical one as my desk surface is small. I actually like where the ports are located on the win 904 case. I also like the Silverstone Fortress FT05, and the NZXT H440 Steel cases, but am a bit freaked out about cutting the cord to having an optical drive. I have my music in FLAC, but I'm concerned I might have some trouble getting my OS and word/excel software etc. installed. I suppose I could download the OS, and I do have large thumb drives. External drives are cluttery, and cost more.
The case seems large to me.
Perhaps a more conventional HTPC case might serve you better.
Here is a Silverstone Grandia Series Gd08B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GG2064
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The case seems large to me.
Perhaps a more conventional HTPC case might serve you better.
Here is a Silverstone Grandia Series Gd08B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP1GG2064
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geofelt
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Consider rethinking.
You plan on using a large ATX motherboard for small needs.
Consider selling it and buying a ITX motherboard.
Put it in a small case.
I have used the lian li pc-Qo2 and it is tiny.
(W) 149mm
(H) 235mm
(D) 205mm
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q02/
You plan on using a large ATX motherboard for small needs.
Consider selling it and buying a ITX motherboard.
Put it in a small case.
I have used the lian li pc-Qo2 and it is tiny.
(W) 149mm
(H) 235mm
(D) 205mm
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q02/
OK, I didn't think of reselling, I purchased one for my son, he said it didn't work, so I ordered him a new one. I helped with the new one, and discovered he had made a simple mistake, so I figure the original is fine, but it's past it's return window. Thanks to everyone else who responded in the thread, I found everything helpful.
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