Long Win 7 load times just one day after new build SSD - Why?

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My new system build has:

Intel Core i5-4590 Haswell Quad-Core 3.3GHz LGA 1150 84W BX80646I54590 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM
Kingston SSDNow V300 Series SV300S37A/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
WD BLACK SERIES WD1003FZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
MSI Z97-Gaming 5 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00
Rosewill Hive-750, Hive Series 750W Modular Power Supply, 80 PLUS Bronze Certified, Single +12V Rail
SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM
Rosewill CHALLENGER S - ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case
Logitech MK120 Black USB Wired Slim Desktop
AVAST free antivirus

I assembled with no problems. After adding windows and running windows 7 updates I attached the SATA connection to the WD HD, formatted it and since I want to get some gaming added STEAM for my games to that WD Hard Drive. Installed one game with no problem. Started another Steam download / game install. Came back to my computer a few hours later and saw a brief blue screen and windows restarted which took about 8 minutes. This has continued to behave this way a few times. Up to this problem occurring, Windows would start in about 10 seconds with windows installed on the SSD. I’m not sure what the problem is- bad windows install or a new fried SSD?
 
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Since you're not all that far along in your setup process, you can try just restoring the factory defaults in the motherboard options.

If you're using separate drives, there should also be an option under the SATA settings for AHCI (if you want to force it manually). That's the standard drive protocol. Don't use Intel RST or RSTe for your setup. If that doesn't work, the worst case is you'll just have an SSD until Western Digital sends you a replacement.
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Check your startup programs. Those can take a lot out of it.
 
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Basically just Win 7 and antivirus on the computer. As its a new build the system is pretty much a clean slate. I probably made wrong choices in the CMOS or windows install along the way, apart from something physically wrong with the hardware. I leaning towards a new fresh windows install. One other point is when I added the WD Black 1TB is I did a basic initialization to assign a drive. Don't know if that was a mistake.
 
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Is your bios taking forever or is it the actual windows logo load?
 
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Was the HDD plugged in when you installed Windows? If so, Windows will split the required files across the SSD and HDD for some stupid reason.

If you didn't the first time, "Delete" both drives from the Windows bootable installer (after backing up) and then shut down. Then unplug the HDD and install Windows on the SDD. Finish that process. Finally, shut down and plug in the HDD. You can then configure it as an independent drive (if it's not already), which will help your performance.

Other than that, I'm not sure what it could be. What does seem clear, however, is that you probably should do a fresh installation of Windows.
 
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No encryption installed.
 
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No it wasn't. That said, when I first started the machine up it went to bios, I realized the WD was plugged in. I shut down and detached the SATA cable and rebooted. I then proceeded with the Win 7 installation on the SSD. I later initialized the 1 TB drive.
 
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Which leads to one final question- ""Delete" both drives from the Windows bootable installer (after backing up) and then shut down" Is that from the bios or in windows itself? And finally the stupid question... How will Windows see the SSD? Please elaborate if you can.
 
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It's funny when I got my build already to install windows on the ssd, I didn't think how I would know what was what. So I did the best thing I could. Opened up the case and unplug all other hard drives except the ssd during install. :p

 
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When you install Windows, it's best to do it from a boottable DVD or USB. You'll see a screen that looks like this
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It'll let you delete the drive, which more or less makes it entirely fresh. That's why you'll want to backup anything you want to keep.

If you see the HDD in that list, unplug it. You should only have the SSD there. Windows will see the SSD as a new drive ready for installation.
 
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OK we went through the steps that Eggz suggested. Still takes 8-9 minutes for windows to load with HDD attached. Almost instantly without it. Not sure what I should do at this point.



 
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Try another HDD.

From what I understand, you boot fine with the SSD only, but plugging in the HDD as well messes things up. Is that right?

If so, then my strong suspicion turns toward the HDD being a source of trouble. You can test with another one, and if that poses no issues, start an RMA with Western Digital to get a replacement drive.
 
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That's what I was thinking Eggz. I don't want to buy another drive to test the idea- though it would be cool to eventually have two HDD's and an SSD :no:

One other thing - what settings for MSI Motherboard or any standard setting to accomplish the proper setup? Its entirely possible that somewhere along the way I goofed and have the wrong choice(s) selected, causing this grief. Any instructions or even a video for this may help solve the problem if this was the cause..

 
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Since you're not all that far along in your setup process, you can try just restoring the factory defaults in the motherboard options.

If you're using separate drives, there should also be an option under the SATA settings for AHCI (if you want to force it manually). That's the standard drive protocol. Don't use Intel RST or RSTe for your setup. If that doesn't work, the worst case is you'll just have an SSD until Western Digital sends you a replacement.
 
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The answer was the Western Digital Drive was bad. I remembered I had a new WD 320 Gig, I had not previously used - from a while back. Plugged it in, formatted and its been working nicely the last 12 hours. So the WD was packed up and is going out in todays mail to be replaced. Thanks Eggz for working me through the problem.
 
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