Core i5 4460 Running a Little Hot

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So I recently built a new PC, and I finally got around to doing a stress test. I am using the stock Intel cooler, as this is not overclocked (It can't be), and my case fans are louder than it anyway. So I was running mPrime, the Linux version of Prime 95, and my CPU temps hit 85 degrees Celsius. Even with the stock cooler that seemed a bit high. I am using pSensor to monitor temps, and it idles at about 25-30.
I looked and the 4460 isn't supposed to get hotter than 72. What could be causing this, and should I be concerned?
 
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Prime is a completely unrealistic test that maxes out every single part of the inside of the chip. 90c is tmax, so you are fine!

Spend the $25 so you don't have to hear that thing whir away all day?

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Yes it is a Linux only machine, and I am using pSensor to monitor the temps. Shouldn't the stock cooler keep the CPU at a safe temperature at 100% load?
 

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I probably will, at the same time I replace the stock case fans with NF-F12 fans. Any recommended coolers for a non-overclocked CPU?
 

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Turning the fans speed down to about 600rpm is better than spending money on noctua fans.
The cheapest thing with a decent copper plate surface at the cpu will transfer so much better and allow the fan to idle.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103084

Use the pea in the center method, push the thing down, never pull, twist a bit. Let the clamping be the tightest squeeze it receives.
 
REALLY? A 90 dollar fan is "the cheapest thing with a decent copper plate surface"? C'mon, be real.

You don't need anything like that. A half decent aftermarket cooler that will run you about 35 bucks, like the Cryorig H7, would be fine. If you wanted to step it up, you could do much worse than going with the Noctua NH-U12S or U14S.

Buy the Noctua fans. You don't necessarily need PWM models, as 3 pin voltage controlled models are fine, but the PWM models MAY allow you to drop the minimum speeds a little lower than a voltage controlled model and MAY be slightly quieter overall. What you WILL get are fans with much better bearings that are STILL quieter after six months. A lot of cheaper fans that have equivalent decibel levels on paper when new, to the Noctua and some of the other fans, WON'T still be that quiet after a few months of use. They won't last as long either. You'll be replacing a Cooler Master Sickleflow fan three times before you have to replace a Noctua fan, at least.

Plus, premium fans like Noctua are able to maintain that low decibel level while moving a significant amount of air while most your budget entry level fans can only claim low noise levels by creatively orchestrating tests at lower RPMs or using voltage reduction filters inline, and specifying the max decibel level of that configuration. Premium fans like Noctua, Phanteks, Thermalright, Noiseblocker, Scythe and a few others, are standard go to products for a reason.

If you just need something for the NOW, it probably is fine to go with a less expensive product. If you want something of high quality that's likely to last the life of your build, or at least far longer than any 8 dollar fan, then you'll want to pony up the extra money.

Now, to address that other nonsense. Prime is NOT a completely unrealistic test, UNLESS you're not using the correct version for thermal testing which is version 26.6. That version does NOT use AVX instructions and IF you test using Small FFT you will get the absolute best method of providing a steady state thermal load that any current utility is capable of providing. I'll be more than happy to back that up with a plethora of supporting documents and opinions, including that of our own CompuTronix who wrote the Intel temperature guide.

For Linux though, as I said, I'm not too familiar with mPrime, but I'm going to check with CompuTronix to see if there's an mPrime version that does not use AVX so you can get a realistic thermal limit test that's trustworthy. Although you haven't exceeded the TjMax or Thermal trip specifications, for a stock chip, yours is warmer than would be expected, except that you ARE still using the stock cooler.
 

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Adding better case fans could help with the temps, as the fans that came with the N200 do not move all that much air, so some better fans would probably help to get a bit more airflow through the uATX case.
 
Absolutely. The CPU and GPU coolers can only work as well as the temperature of the case air they are using. If there isn't good airflow, they aren't very efficient. IF there is good airflow, then they don't have to work as hard, which allows them to work at a lower RPM, which also reduces overall noise levels. Plus, it's highly advantageous for the motherboard, storage drives and any other PCI devices that may be installed to have a cooler operating environment.

You don't have to have 25 dollar fans, but you don't want five dollar fans either. I'd probably go with one of these:


Budget: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553002&cm_re=cougar_120mm_fan-_-35-553-002-_-Product


Better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608061&cm_re=noctua_120mm_fan-_-35-608-061-_-Product


Best: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608026&cm_re=noctua_120mm_fan-_-35-608-026-_-Product