Is my ram at fault?

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(re-posting this in a more appropriate place on the forum i hope that's ok)

Hi everyone

Im trying to get a second opinion from people with more experience than me.

I recently built my first computer.

Amd FX 8320
Sapphire MD radeon R9 280X
Asus M5A97 R2.0
Kingston hyperx Fury DDR3 8go (x1) 1866mhz
Corsair CX600 600W
Seagate 1To

I put it together and installed windows 7 everything seemed fine. Then i got multiple Bsod's as I ran installations for software on the PC.

Next Some programs started acting up (wouldn't launch) So i decided to re-install windows fresh.

Since then I cannot get the installer to finish.
It crashes when unpacking. Either I get Bsod's With different messages each time or i get an error message saying 0x80070570 at "expanding files" in the windows 7 installation at around 32% into it.

After looking for fixes online I heard it could be ram related so after running memtest86 i got the following results: (3 x 1 pass on same ram card in 3 different slots)

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So from what i can tell there seems to be an issue with the ram? It's the first time I've used memtest86 so i am unsure of what is wrong. If anyone could look at these that would be great.

A day later I Checked the hard drive with chkdsk command in the installer. And it said everything was OK.

After that I somehow managed to install the Windows Vista 32 successfully.

I don't know how it worked but it did, and after running a check on the hard drive it started the initial set up (date / time, computer name) and then blue screened when it tried to detect the computers graphics. Since then any launch would result in a blue screen whenever Vista tried to load up.

Tried re-installing the windows 7 and the usual 0x80070570 came up.

Other points to note.

I've updated the bios to the latest driver from the website.
The bios has the ram detected and is supplying the correct 1866mhz.
I tried installing windows 7 from a bootable usb and vista from CD.
This specific ram is not on the qualified vendor list of the motherboard. ( But other Kingston ones are with lower frequency)

Still very lost here. Is it the ram?

If anyone has any thoughts on this I'd appreciate the help.

Thanks.
 
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Yes, it's the RAM. Your CPU might not be able to support the rated speed. The older memory controller in some AMD cpus can be picky. You might try setting your speeds to 1600 or increasing your timings.
You may also just have a bad stick(s) of RAM. Make sure they have clean contacts and are fully seated. If you can't get it to work by changing speeds and/or using different DIMM slots then your should return them for a replacement.
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Yes, it's the RAM. Your CPU might not be able to support the rated speed. The older memory controller in some AMD cpus can be picky. You might try setting your speeds to 1600 or increasing your timings.
You may also just have a bad stick(s) of RAM. Make sure they have clean contacts and are fully seated. If you can't get it to work by changing speeds and/or using different DIMM slots then your should return them for a replacement.
 
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maglaev

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Ok thanks Calculagator.

I tried installing with 1600mhz twice on two different DIMM slots and got the same usual errors and blue screens.

The Ram is fully seated and the contacts are clean.

I'm unsure on how to increase timings will look into it more tomorrow, but i think my best bet is to send it back.

Perhaps I will try to get 2x4gb instead with 1600mhz and get one from the qualified vendor list to be extra safe.

Thanks for replying!
 
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If I'm reading it right you only have the one stick of DRAM... Yes/No? The Fury uses loose timings so would guess you have a bad stick...one thing would be to check for BIOS updates for the mobo. The Fury operate under PnP and the BIOS may not be ready for the Fury.
 
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Sorry for late replies just come home from work and been trying to make the computer work some more.

Yes there is just 1 stick of 8gb Kingston hyper x fury ram.

The first post shows that 1 ram being tested 3 times on a different DIMM slot each time and showing very similar results. (sorry for not making that clearer)

I have updated the BIOS. (I'll double check tomorrow just to be sure it was done properly)

I looked up that PnP and found another thread where you talked about it Tradesman. The motherboard's specifications mentions that it has PnP but I'm unsure if its the same as you mentioned. (http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A97_R20/specifications/)

However here http://media.kingston.com/pdfs/HyperX_FURY_EN.pdf it does not list the A97 as a supported chipset.

In other news i was able to install windows 7 once more. However I've been having BSOD's and errors related to memory regularly while using it.

Another thing to note is that I was unable to get the R9 280x graphics card to detect while doing so but I'm unsure as to why. I had the hdmi plugged into it and it showed video on the monitor but wouldn't stop using integrated graphics. I tried to find how to disable it in the bios but i don't think i could find it.

Could the motherboard have anything to do with this?


Thanks for the help btw.
 
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You need to deal with the RAM issue before tackling anything else. Your windows will quickly become corrupt with all of those errors. If you ever encounter any errors running memtest, the RAM should be replaced. Your installation is probably already corrupt, you just haven't noticed it yet.
While it is possible that there is a motherboard problem or RAM compatibility problem, the most likely problem is a bad RAM stick. This is also the easiest problem to fix-return and replace your RAM. You can get a different model if you are worried about compatibility, but it probably doesn't matter.
 
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I think I will get a different model to be safe.

G.Skill Ares

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Memoire-PC/Memoire-DDR3/G-SKILL/4898701-Ares-Low-Profile-16-Go-2-x-8-Go-DDR3-2133-MHz-Cas-10.htm#moid:MO-E3919M22551766

or Ripjaws

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Memoire-PC/Memoire-DDR3/G-SKILL/4905186-Ripjaws-X-16-Go-2-x-8-Go-DDR3-1866-MHz-Cas-10.htm#moid:MO-342DEM23909270

seem like more common picks on this motherboard/CPU. [strike]Will it still be fine with a 2133MHz frequency and CAS 10?[/strike]



EDIT: Never mind. I read up some more about it and found out the cpu supports up to 1866 non OC and more CAS is not better.

So i'm gonna go with these g.skill Snipers 1866 Cas 9:

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Memoire-PC/Memoire-DDR3/G-SKILL/4881332-Sniper-16-Go-2-x-8-Go-DDR3-1866-MHz-Cas-9.htm#moid:MO-45518M22454776

Hopefully they run OK. I've seen a ton of threads about these both good and bad but Tradesman1 seems to have put up many solutions around these forums for them.

Will update when I get them and try to make this build work.

Thanks guys
 
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Delayed update.

It was the ram.

The new ram works great although i had to set it to 1866mhz through the bios. (It defaulted to 1333mhz)

Anyway installed windows and all drivers everything works fine.

Thanks a bunch for the help guys.
 
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