- Aug 29, 2014
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Hi,
I know AMD sucks and I already know they are a dead end but I can save a real crap load of money. At this point, a gaming PC seems like too much and I might opt for a console but I have 56 games on my laptop which is dying that I want to keep playing. So I am trying to build a $900 desktop. But I have some strong questions about AMD CPUs
I keep building and building on PC Partpicker with an i5's and i7's but I just can't get the prices under $1100. I know it'd be better with even an i5 than a 9590 but I don't know "why" it's better aside from AMD's poorer single thread performance which games tend to rely on at the moment.
My friend has an 8320E with a 3GB XFX R9 280 which I consider to be junk, yet he easily maintains 60FPS on Metro Last Light with all settings maxed including maxed AA, AF, Tesselation, and SSAO at 128 samples which is just silly... can't even see the difference between 64 and 128 SSAO Samples but he can do it with good frame rates...so why bother with Intel then?
So if an AMD CPU is so bad, how is it he is having such a good experience? I built that computer for him for $800 and he's having a blast. Now I'm wondering why I shouldn't try AMD also.
So here is what I was thinking and feel free to pick this apart for all the good and bad!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvVcvK
MOUSE- I own a Logitech G600 already
SPEAKERS- I own Logitech Z313's already which are good enough
MONITOR- I own one already (Optoma HD141X)
OS- I have Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 already and plan to get the free Win10 upgrade
CPU- AMD 8320e or 8370e, or 8370 or 9370 or 9590. I'm leaning toward 8370e
MOBO- I dunno, I'd like a PCIe x16 with a PCIe x4 and maybe an x1 for a possible sound card and wifi
COOLER- Cooler Master Glacer 240L v2 (I like that it's not totally closed loop)
GPU- Sapphire Radeon R9 R90X Tri-X OC now $279, what a great price to step into next gen!
OPTICAL- Asus 16D1HT
RAM- 16GB is a must, DDR3 1866MHz to 2400MHz, but I'm pretty sure that OC'ing to 2400 would be very hard with this CPU and mobo. 2133MHz I hear is the most stable without crashing or overheating. I'm also not really sure how large of an impact RAM speed will have for games in the coming years. I do tend to play minorly CPU intensive games
HDD- 3TB Seagate Barricuda 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s, this will become a backup drive once I save for a better SSD or 10k HDD (below)
HDD- will upgrade to a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 or 1TB Western Digital 10k-rpm down the road. Was debating on the much cheaper 960GB Crucial M500 but hear it's old and may not be the best for longevity.
PSU- Can't find any good reviewed PSUs under $100. Huge issue here for money. Best PSUs are running $150-200. I'd like to get an 850-1000W gold or platinum but even the bronze are at $100
CASE- would prefer a case that comes with 3 fans under $100 that can fit a 360mm rad at the top but a 240mm rad should be ok. A 750D would be perfect but is a little costly, a Phatneks Ethnoo also but that is even more costly. I would want to save some more money. Maybe a 300R? but then I'd have to buy fans. My friend's Corsair 300R was "meh" but doable for its price
KEYBOARD- Logitech g105 (I wanted the Orion Spark but yikes! That's a lot of money!)
total $850 to $1000 depending on parts
Even if I got a Z97 with i5 or i7, I'd still need to re-purchase a new CPU and mobo by time I actually decide an upgrade is necessary in many years from now (like 5+), so only the core parts are worth dropping extra money on. I had an idea to buy as best parts as I could for the things that will stay the longest like the PSU will last a long time if I get a good one. The HDD and SSD obviously will live into the next "next gen" lol. Basically the CPU and MOBO I can skimp on since if I got more money down the road I'd go Intel, especially since AMD isn't offering any kind of CPU roadmap for the coming years.
I know AMD sucks and I already know they are a dead end but I can save a real crap load of money. At this point, a gaming PC seems like too much and I might opt for a console but I have 56 games on my laptop which is dying that I want to keep playing. So I am trying to build a $900 desktop. But I have some strong questions about AMD CPUs
I keep building and building on PC Partpicker with an i5's and i7's but I just can't get the prices under $1100. I know it'd be better with even an i5 than a 9590 but I don't know "why" it's better aside from AMD's poorer single thread performance which games tend to rely on at the moment.
My friend has an 8320E with a 3GB XFX R9 280 which I consider to be junk, yet he easily maintains 60FPS on Metro Last Light with all settings maxed including maxed AA, AF, Tesselation, and SSAO at 128 samples which is just silly... can't even see the difference between 64 and 128 SSAO Samples but he can do it with good frame rates...so why bother with Intel then?
So if an AMD CPU is so bad, how is it he is having such a good experience? I built that computer for him for $800 and he's having a blast. Now I'm wondering why I shouldn't try AMD also.
So here is what I was thinking and feel free to pick this apart for all the good and bad!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvVcvK
MOUSE- I own a Logitech G600 already
SPEAKERS- I own Logitech Z313's already which are good enough
MONITOR- I own one already (Optoma HD141X)
OS- I have Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 already and plan to get the free Win10 upgrade
CPU- AMD 8320e or 8370e, or 8370 or 9370 or 9590. I'm leaning toward 8370e
MOBO- I dunno, I'd like a PCIe x16 with a PCIe x4 and maybe an x1 for a possible sound card and wifi
COOLER- Cooler Master Glacer 240L v2 (I like that it's not totally closed loop)
GPU- Sapphire Radeon R9 R90X Tri-X OC now $279, what a great price to step into next gen!
OPTICAL- Asus 16D1HT
RAM- 16GB is a must, DDR3 1866MHz to 2400MHz, but I'm pretty sure that OC'ing to 2400 would be very hard with this CPU and mobo. 2133MHz I hear is the most stable without crashing or overheating. I'm also not really sure how large of an impact RAM speed will have for games in the coming years. I do tend to play minorly CPU intensive games
HDD- 3TB Seagate Barricuda 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s, this will become a backup drive once I save for a better SSD or 10k HDD (below)
HDD- will upgrade to a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 or 1TB Western Digital 10k-rpm down the road. Was debating on the much cheaper 960GB Crucial M500 but hear it's old and may not be the best for longevity.
PSU- Can't find any good reviewed PSUs under $100. Huge issue here for money. Best PSUs are running $150-200. I'd like to get an 850-1000W gold or platinum but even the bronze are at $100
CASE- would prefer a case that comes with 3 fans under $100 that can fit a 360mm rad at the top but a 240mm rad should be ok. A 750D would be perfect but is a little costly, a Phatneks Ethnoo also but that is even more costly. I would want to save some more money. Maybe a 300R? but then I'd have to buy fans. My friend's Corsair 300R was "meh" but doable for its price
KEYBOARD- Logitech g105 (I wanted the Orion Spark but yikes! That's a lot of money!)
total $850 to $1000 depending on parts
Even if I got a Z97 with i5 or i7, I'd still need to re-purchase a new CPU and mobo by time I actually decide an upgrade is necessary in many years from now (like 5+), so only the core parts are worth dropping extra money on. I had an idea to buy as best parts as I could for the things that will stay the longest like the PSU will last a long time if I get a good one. The HDD and SSD obviously will live into the next "next gen" lol. Basically the CPU and MOBO I can skimp on since if I got more money down the road I'd go Intel, especially since AMD isn't offering any kind of CPU roadmap for the coming years.
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