Is this a good cpu for High-End games?

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

Alright, One response I don't want to see is "Go for a good GPU, not CPU.", I know, I am going to get a 980 so GPU is not a problem, So now that is out of the way, is This a good CPU? That's all, thanks!

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

AMD is for budget, not high end. Although the FX-8350 is a good processor, it isn't close to the quality of an i7-4790k.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $326.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The i5-4690k will run most games nearly as well as the i7-4790k. The Intel i7 has a small lead in some CPU intensive games like Battlefield 4.

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

RCFProd :

Ah yes, I get all that, but am sticking with AMD for now, on a small budget,

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

RCFProd :

Ah yes, I get all that, but am sticking with AMD for now, on a small budget,

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

That is not a smart decision because you're presumably getting the GTX 980.

You would be locked with a rather poor performing CPU compared to a high-end GPU = Bottleneck and no future-proof upgradability.

i5-4690k + GTX 970 would be perform better than the FX-8350 + GTX 980 plus it would also be more future proof.

I suggest you do some research on CPU to GPU performance and rethink your options.

The GTX 970/R9 290X is excellent for 1080p/1440p.

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

Well then your budget would be nice. I mean it is expected that if you are spending money on a $500+ GPU money really isnt too big of a problem unless you state your budget...

Tom's should have a reminder box along with the one that tells you to use good grammar to also tell you to add your budget...

Vortex6700 · Apr 22, 2015

What games are you playing. With power saving features off, and at turbo frequency, you are going to have problems finding a game that a modern 6-8 core cant run at 60 fps if you set it up right. Especially with that gpu.

A stock intel isn't going to get you more than 10% better fps in games.

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

YOu would also be happier with this CPU:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GN9vdC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GN9vdC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $239.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-22 12:27 EDT-0400

It's basically an i7 for the price of an i5 without the iGPU.

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

Vortex6700 :

Invalid.

There can be up to 15-20 FPS difference between the FX-8350 and i5-4690 both at stock speed.

i5-4690k is the better option any day of the week.

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

RCFProd :

If hes not overclocking a 4460 or the Xeon is probably better.

4460 and 4690K stock preform about the same in games, and the Xeon is basically in i7, which will give him a slight advantage depending on the game.

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

For clarification the games I am playing are BF3, FC3, Titanfall, I want to be able to max them out, My question really is would that CPU get 60 or more fps in those games?

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

anoori9000 :

Well actually, I'm buying that card brand new at a local place for around 250.

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

Highdefkitten :

We told you, i5 4460, 4690K, or the Xeon

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

Both the i5-4690k and the Xeon have their benefits.

For example yes the Xeon has 2 extra threads but it is locked with the lower 3.4 Ghz clock spped.

The i5-4690k will perform better in most games as most games don't use more than 4 cores right now. It also can be overclocked up to 4.5 Ghz no problems depending on the motherboard and CPU Cooler which right now has a much bigger benefit than those 2 extra threads.

That's why I only suggest the Xeon when a build is aimed both at gaming but also recording, editing etc.

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

anoori9000 :

Alright, I was hoping for there to be a pretty good AMD solution but that's what I expected. I5 looks good, I'm gonna stay away from Xeon though.

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

If you're only playing older games there is no reason to buy the GTX 980.

Do you know how powerful the GTX 970 is?

Even the GTX 960 would be enough for those games to be fair.

Unless you play higher than 1080p there should be no reason to get more than a GTX 970 as that GPU is overkill for Full HD resolution.

Vortex6700 · Apr 22, 2015

RCFProd :

This is only correct if you leave the power saving options intact. If you disable power saving options on both, the 8350 beats the i5 in Arma 3, DCS A10C, and many other cpu intensive games.

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

You what? The FX-8350 does not beat the Intel i5 AT ALL in Arma 3. Not even the i3-4150.

This is a load of nonsense you're typing now.

Vortex6700 · Apr 22, 2015

RCFProd :

My system:

fx8350 (put back at 4.2 for the arguement)
16gb 1600 ram cas9
2x r9 290x
Asus Crosshair V Formula

I am on ultra at 6k object/ 6k view distances with 150* FOV getting 60 frames (vsync on) on Altis with 2 factions fighting in view (Myrina) with 1 tank and 3 squads each. My resolution is 5760 x 1080

CPU usage is 80% on ALL 8 cores. GPU usage is 70%

You might have gotten bad fps on your 8350, but don't blame the processor when you don't know how to fiddle with settings.

Would you like a picture?

RCFProd · Apr 22, 2015

I didn't have the FX-8350 my self.

You think you would beat the i7-4790k + 16GB RAM with additional ARMA 3 commands to improve that performance just like you did with the FX-8350?

I'm fully open to this discussion but I need proper benchmarks to verify this.

Vortex6700 · Apr 22, 2015

I am already at 80% on all cores, so without capture hardware, I don't know how we would confirm without possibly hindering the frames.

I think you might get more fps over 60, but neither of us should drop below.

Going on my limited experience with you, if it is my ability to get a Real Virtuality 4 engine game to run optimally against your i7's pure muscle, I'll win.

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

Highdefkitten :

anoori9000 :

Alright, I was hoping for there to be a pretty good AMD solution but that's what I expected. I5 looks good, I'm gonna stay away from Xeon though.

Why would you avoid it? Its literally an i7.

Highdefkitten · Apr 22, 2015

anoori9000 :

Highdefkitten :

Why would you avoid it? Its literally an i7.

Aren't they cpu's made for servers?

anoori9000 · Apr 22, 2015

Yes, but as I said, they are almost exactly an i7. It is an i7 for the price of an i5.

differences, No IGPU
Locked

RCFProd · Apr 23, 2015

The Xeon E3 1231 V3 is an i7-4770 without integrated graphics.

Is this a good cpu for High-End games?

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