Looking to upgrade my HP p7-1430 desktop, any help would be greatly appreciated.

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

(http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03517210) Currently have a HP Desktop A10-5700 CPU, GTX 750 1gb, stock 300w PSU, 8GB RAM, 1.5tb HDD and a MSI MS-7778 Jasmine MOBO (stock). Now the questions. What would be the best GPU to not bottleneck the CPU? Would it be better to upgrade MOBO and PSU first? Looking to mabey spend around 500$, anyway to get a nice power/performance system upgrade within that range. Idk anything about MOBOs and what not. Thanks in advance people.

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

If anything your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU.

What games are you planning to play? And are you experiencing any issues with your current setup since you'd want to upgrade?

Your current system should be fine playing a lot of new games, like GTA 5 on low/medium settings.

If you're planning to play the Witcher 3 you'd definitely want to get a new MoBo, CPU, PSU, and GPU.

Here are links to CPU & GPU benchmark comparisons, your setup to The Witcher 3 min req;

CPU: =12&cmp[]=804]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=12&cmp[]=804
GPU: =2825&cmp[]=2152]http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2825&cmp[]=2152

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lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

Well I'd like 2-4 yr "future" proof system for AAA titles at least 900p up to 1080p on Ultra/Very High with some AA and what not, no 4k for me yet. No issues with anything just want some more juice. Though I doubt $500 will suffice to get the likes of Witcher 3+ to run smoothly on high/ultra with at least 30-40fps eh?

NA_xGG · Apr 23, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $522.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-23 09:05 EDT-0400

May want to check to make sure this MoBo & PSU will fit in the case by measuring yours against dimensions of parts (although I think everything should be fine as most prebuilt PCs are Mid ATX towers).

This would be a HUGE upgrade for you & you'll be good for another few years. 1080p no problem.
If you want, you can get a decent budget case & have no worries

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

You'd need to upgrade your entire system if you'd want it as an investment in the future, in which case 500$ is not enough. ~650-700$ should be good.

If The Witcher turns out to set the bar for future triple A titles your system isn't going to last very long as it currently stands.

You can look around on this forum though, there are alot of people asking for builds, even for the witcher 3. So look around and see if you find anything fitting of whatever your budget might end up being, hopefully more than 500$.

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

lordodin :

You could just get a gtx 970 and a new power supply for now, that would sort you out on the graphics side of things. Your current cpu may hold it back a bit but you would definitely be pushing for very high / ultra settings in every game. Once you have enough dollars for a custom build the graphics card and power supply could simply be transplanted into your new rig

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

For comparison, my current build will most likely run at high/ultra 30-40 fps.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $659.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-23 09:27 EDT-0400

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

Hmmmm thanks for all the replies people! Now I'm wondering if 650-700$ overhaul would be worth it. Idk to much about these things. Would it be let's say twice as good as my current rig? Would a GPU and PSU upgrade be good enough? Would a 970 with that little memory issue effect performance long term, as in would there be a better card with at least 4gb VRAM for my system.?

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

lordodin :

If you want a system to last 2-4 years worth of gaming then some sort of upgrade is an absolute must.

I don't see the 3.5gb vram thing as an issue, it's still an absolute monster card at 1080p.

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

lordodin :

- Absolutely

lordodin :

- Not if you intend to play The Witcher 3 (and quite possibly games beyond)

lordodin :

- Not sure what you mean when you say "that little memory". The 970 have tons of standalone (4gb) VRAM, and your 8gb 1600mhz ram is more than enough for everything else.

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

Vice93 :

It isn't even out yet so we don't know for sure, but I reckon the FM2 x4s will be able to get 30fps at least. Time will tell.

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

LucoTF :

Perhaps on low, though I was under the impression OP wanted to play on high/ultra @ 30-40 fps.

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

Vice93 :

Settings and resolution are mostly gpu bound, not cpu.

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

So wait. I can't upgrade my CPU because of the motherbord right? Different sockets? But a 970 or 285/290x range cards will get bottlenecked with certain games by the current CPU?

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

lordodin :

Yes, you're right on both counts. An r9 280 / r9 285 / gtx 960 would be the biggest gpu upgrade I would do for a balanced system, but if you're upgrading the cpu in future then don't be afraid to make a more long term investment in the gpu (and power supply)

When you do change cpu and mobo you will probably need a new case too.

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

Decisions.....decisions. So to keep everything around/under 500$ my best bet would be just upgarde GPU and PSU for now? As far as GPU goes, gtx 970 or r9 290 tri-x?

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

What about a AMD 760k OCd? Or would I need a new MoBo still?

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

Your a10 is a 760k, they're the same thing (it's just yours also has on board graphics)

Vice93 · Apr 23, 2015

At least don't bother buying a new CPU for the MoBo. If you don't want to buy everything at once, just get the GPU/PSU combo and wait until you can afford CPU/MoBo combo.

NA_xGG · Apr 23, 2015

Well, I posted a complete upgrade within his budget. Unless there's something I don't know, I think the option I gave him was a great one. Then, he doesn't have to wait for anything.

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

O, OK. So Luco you think a 280 would be the highest GPU without bottleneck but if I plan to upgrade CPU etc in the future just go with a 970 and decent PSU? So confusing at first, this computer jargon. I just want 1080p ultra at a good price, you'd think consoles would help drive prices down. I mean if it costs xxxx more for a PC that needs to upgraded every x years, just to compete. You'd think nvidia and AMD would have some kind of GPU/CPU/MoBo package to equal/surpass ps4 x1 specs at a similar price point. Wishful thinking, or mabey there already is, but I'm a lil naïve when it come to this stuff.

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

Just wanted to say thanks again for taking time to help a noober everyone!

NA_xGG · Apr 23, 2015

lordodin :

PCs are way ahead of what consoles offer. In all honestly, the PC you currently have runs about the same as a console. Consoles run at 30 fps max at "normal" graphics settings while PCs can run high-ultra settings at 60+ fps.

Consider the build I posted, if you haven't looked already. It trumps a console any day, no doubt.

LucoTF · Apr 23, 2015

I think he would need to add a case to that build, most branded Desktops have proprietary motherboards.

Still, it is indeed a great build for the price

lordodin · Apr 23, 2015

Didn't know that about consoles, good to know. Wish I knew how to quote here but anyway. NA_xGG so i looked it over and idk if the performance impact is worth 200$ for the CPU. Would the 285 GPU and gaming performance in general be noticeablely different on my current a10 CPU?

Looking to upgrade my HP p7-1430 desktop, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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