Games randomly start lagging on display with 144hz

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

Hello,

I did make a thread on the monitors section of this forum but nobody really tried to help me over there so I'm going to assume that it's not my monitor that is the issue.

The issue: Ever since I got this new 144hz monitor, some games have had trouble. For example Minecraft, which I don't really play too much but still is an issue, the display randomly becomes laggy after around 15 minutes. My fps is still high (In the 600s) however it is still a laggy display. This goes away after I turn off my computer and don't use it for a few hours, however I am tired of having to do that every time. This happens in other games but not as frequently (Probably because I don't play those games as much, CSGO is one)

When I am not gaming the mouse movement is fine, so I assume it's either something with the game or GPU. I have played with my friend's 144hz monitors so I will assume it is not Minecraft specifically which is causing it.

GPU: I have a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 Gaming GPU
Monitor: I have a LG Electronics Gaming 24GM77

Any help on this topic is appreciated... If you don't understand what my issue is I can try to explain what you are having trouble with(I know I'm bad at explaining :/)

Thanks, let me know if you need more info....

JackNaylorPE · Apr 26, 2015

Your card is working harder at 144 Hz

1. Any hints in Windows Logs (Event Viewer) ?

2. What are GPU temps under Furmark ?

3. What are voltage high / low on 12v rail under Furmark ? (use HWiNFO)

i7Baby · Apr 26, 2015

The monitor shouldn't make any difference.

If you haven't had a crash then it could be due to eg cpu of gpu overheating, bad drivers for graphics card.

Can you get voltage and temp readings from your mobo utility software and Afterburner?

And post your complete build in detail.

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

i7Baby :

I recently updated the Nvidia drivers to see if that would fix the issue but it didn't. I will get temp readings in a bit but here are my specs

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-AR ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.16 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($118.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($355.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.49 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

Any specific areas I should look at in Event Viewer? I will get temp readings in around 10 min

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

1. Any specific area I should look at?

2. Maxes out at 76 Degrees Celsius (1920x1080 test) EDIT: I did the test again and it maxes out at 69 degrees celcius at 100% fan speeds, still seems a bit warm though

3. Not sure if I looked at the right area for this (I'm not too good with these stuff) but I got constant 1.1528 voltage

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

i7Baby :

Right now while typing it is 38 degrees Celsius. The mobo utility software is a pain to deal with (It was glitching for me so I just uninstalled it) but on the bios screen it is like 1.056 idle

MarkW · Apr 26, 2015

I suspect that your video card is throttling due to heat. 76c is right about where I would suspect the chip starts trying to protect itself. 76c is 169f. Thats pretty warm.

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

MarkW :

Yeah I figure that might actually be what's happening, i'm going to increase my fan speed and try the test again.

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

MarkW :

I did the test again and it maxes out at 69 degrees celcius at 100% fan speeds, still seems a bit warm though

i7Baby · Apr 26, 2015

Not enough info.

Download HWInfo and run Sensors. Game for 20min. Post the Sensors results - usually 3 screenshots in TinyPic or Gyazo or similar. It'll show voltages, temps, clocks, etc.

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

i7Baby :

While I was playing the game it didn't lag as much as it did before surprisingly, perhaps bringing up the fan speed was a good idea.

Here are the pictures, I think I took them accurately. http://prntscr.com/6ymiod http://prntscr.com/6ymis1 http://prntscr.com/6ymiws

i7Baby · Apr 26, 2015

Your CPU is getting way too hot - 76C.

Your graphics card is only at 55C which is fine.

Your CP{U fan is at 2300 rpm which is fine. Vcore is at 1.155V which is also fine. So the problem must be with your CPU cooler.

Remove your CPU cooler. Clean it. Remove the old thermal paste with isoporopyl alcohol. Put New Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste on the CPU - a small pea size drop. Then put it back together.

Your CPU temp should be less than 40C at idle and 60C max gaming. If not, then bu a better CPU cooler.

DhruvTheImpostrous · Apr 26, 2015

i7Baby :

Alright thanks, I will get some Artic Silver 5 Thermal paste in a few days or so when I order it. I will let you know how it ends up when I redo the entire thing, and also what temps do you think an h80i should be?

i7Baby · Apr 26, 2015

less than 40C at idle and 60C max gaming

JackNaylorPE · Apr 27, 2015

DhruvTheImpostrous :

1. Windows System Log / Windows Application Log ...anything that says error (red icon) or warming (yellow icon)

2. The card will start throttling at 80C, again you can see this with GPUz.... look at the sensors tab, the graph will change color.... so yes, it is a bit warm.... Giga usually comes in at about 60C

3. We are not looking for GPU or CPU voltages, we want to see the 3.3, 5 and 12 voltv rails from HWiNFO

4, Avoid AS5 ... Shin Etsu matches it's performance, costs less and doesn't have the capacitance or curing time issues of AS5

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)

Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080

DhruvTheImpostrous · May 2, 2015

JackNaylorPE :

DhruvTheImpostrous :

1. Windows System Log / Windows Application Log ...anything that says error (red icon) or warming (yellow icon)

2. The card will start throttling at 80C, again you can see this with GPUz.... look at the sensors tab, the graph will change color.... so yes, it is a bit warm.... Giga usually comes in at about 60C

3. We are not looking for GPU or CPU voltages, we want to see the 3.3, 5 and 12 voltv rails from HWiNFO

4, Avoid AS5 ... Shin Etsu matches it's performance, costs less and doesn't have the capacitance or curing time issues of AS5

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)

Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080

Erm, I already purchased AS5. Sorry, I don't usually check my notifications too often so I didn't see your post.... I will try to get the info later

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