Performance Upgrade AMD8350 -> i5 4690k

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Masoner

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I'm finally able to upgrade my CPU in my rig, currently it's a AMD 8350 and as what I can see the i5 4690 is the over all best gaming CPU.

What I'm curious to see (understand) is why does Intel seem to be the go to CPU for gamers? I'm not seeking a hate thread or something :p but as I understand it.


Most (if not all games) are designed for Intel Chip Sets.

Intel cores handle game demands that are up/down while AMD cores don't do so well with up/down demands.

others?

and finally as a gamer if you had a 8350 and could spend the money on the i5 4690 would you?

Thanks for your replies.
 
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faalin

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its not that games are designed for intel chips its just that they are stronger. If you take a single core for both intel and amd running both at 3.0ghz the intel chip will perform better. Right now very few games go over 2 cores, times are changing with newer games, so an intel is still very strong for games.

Doing rendering work and that sort of thing, if you had to chose between the i5 and the 8350 i would take amd since it has more true cores to do all the work.

"and finally as a gamer if you had a 8350 and could spend the money on the i5 4690 would you?"
At this point and time right now, no i would not. The 1150 is going to be a dead socket by the end of the year with skylark coming out. I would wait for that to make the change.
 
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herrwizo

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I will try to use an illustrative example.

Let's say each CPU core is one human worker.

AMD CPU has 8 workers, and each is able to paint one truck a day.

Intel has only 4 workers, but each is able to paint 2 trucks a day.

Naturally, if all workers are put to work, they should be about equal. However, issues arise when their employer (a game) doesn't need them all and only needs 2-4 workers to do the job (like most games today do).

With Intel's CPU cores being significantly faster, it's a common sense that games which depends on CPU performance perform more work on Intel CPUs and get more fps from your graphics card (provided your GPU is not a bottleneck itself).

I would not upgrade unless if I were unhappy with framerates. Are you? If so, what GPU do you have?
 
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I have an 8350, in use for heavy gaming applications for the last 6 months or so, paired with a R290x.
Even if I had the 400-500 dollars to spare that a cpu/mobo swap would entail, I wouldn't spend that money on that upgrade at this time. I would put it towards a 34" LG ultra wide 21 x 9 monitor.
Especially since I would "probably" need a new copy of windows to go along with the mobo/cpu swap, since I have an OEM copy that is tied to this mobo. Which would add over $100 to the above mentioned cost.

I built this system over time with Star Citizen in mind. Graphically demanding and heavily multi threaded game.
Your mileage may vary as to whether it is worth it to you. But if you are getting good performance now, and want to switch to Intel, I would wait out this year, for DDR4 memory to come down to a reasonable price, and latest gen Intel chips to stabilize in price. Then build a system around that base.

Or just take the plunge now if the money is not an issue for you. Just don't expect some miraculous 200% gain in performance, because unless your current system is severely bottlenecked somewhere, that's not going to happen.
 
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woodsro

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As someone who owns both chips in 2 different rigs, if I had one, i wouldn't upgrade to the other. As i can rarely see any perceivable difference between the two. Sure, benchmarks show Intel may be a little bit ahead, but its usually not enough to justfy spending 180-200 bucks on a new CPU not counting a new board.

If i had only the 8350, i'd stand pat until AMD releases their new chip in 2016 and then decide if i go Intel or AMD since i would need a new board for either path anyways, if i only had Intel, i'd stand pat with 4690k and skip 1 gen, yes skip Skylake and wait for the next batch. Its just what i do.
 
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Masoner

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It seems the consensus is to not upgrade and wait..

currently I have

AMD FX-8350
GSKILL 4GB DDR3 x 2
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX SLI/CROSSFIRE DDR3
HIS AMD RADEON R9 280X 3GB
CORSAIR CX750 WATT

The games I play are mostly MMORPG's on high settings, but I wanted to start getting other stuff like RUST and H1Z1.

but if you guys believe I'm good with what I've got I'll hold out and see what comes up next year ^^.
 
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I max H1Z1 with an FX6300 and GTX 960 4GB. Easy. It plays The Witcher 3 very well too (40-60 FPS) with mostly high settings. I'm under the understanding that an Intel cpu would mainly help my low end FPS and not so much the higher end, as my GPU isn't bottlenecked and CPU cores run 50-70% approx but fluctuates with a core or 2 doing 2-3%. I wouldn't upgrade unless it was a free upgrade
 
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