My First Build - looking for suggestions

Bozhark · May 6, 2015

Hi. I'm building my first personal computer. I am regarding this as an investment for many years. Most of the applications I use are for rendering/designing 3D objects, Gaming, and some video production. The biggest need is for fast computation of 3D analysis. I make 3D .stl files of CT Scans and the applications can take HOURS with a 2014 stock Dell 8GB RAM desktop. The left hemisphere of a brain took 7 hours TO SLICE when scaled down 60%, let alone the processing time of the file conversion to stl. My assumption is to just pump a lot of power into the processing capabilities and the max RAM. I need to keep the costs under 5K and it would be better if it was closer to 3K.
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PCPARTPICKER - I made this quick hypothetical build. I need help analyzing it for better options/price savings. Can you help me check? Thanks in advance!

Things I don't want to change:
Mouse
Keyboard
Graphics card
Must be 64GB RAM

logainofhades · May 6, 2015

Not sure that a $450 motherboard is necessary. 1600w psu is unnecessary as well. Even if you ran 3x Titan-X, you would be fine with a 1300w. Made some changes, and made the overall build cheaper, but added some HDD for Raid 5 storage.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($995.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($789.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($105.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($105.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($105.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White/Red) ATX Full Tower Case ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($178.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($50.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 9 Wireless Laser Mouse ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $4539.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-06 12:23 EDT-0400

Bossyfins · May 6, 2015

I would think a Titan would be better since it has the double precision feature. But then again, I wouldn't have enough experience to actually determine if it was helpful.

Bozhark · May 6, 2015

Bossyfins - I have a selected an EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB as my video card. Is this what you are referencing?

logainofhades - The larger PSU is for future proofing my power needs as I expand the amount of video cards over the next two years. It saves me from having to buy another one within that time frame. Also, the motherboard I went with ASUS over MSI due to recommendations from friends. I was told MSI has great boards, when they work. I was told they don't have the best Q/A department... a lot of boards sent out not working/multiple returns necessary. Any thoughts on ASUS over MSI?

logainofhades · May 6, 2015

I chose the MSI, as it is a THG recommended motherboard. Again, 1300w is sufficient. 3x titan X would put your power requirements just a bit over 1000w. 1600w is totally unnecessary, especially with the focus on reduced power consumption, as of late.

Bossyfins · May 6, 2015

Bozhark :

There are 4 titans on the market
- Titan
- Titan X
- Titan Z
- Titan black

The following were miniature quadros. They have double precision
- Titan
- Titan Z
- Titan black

I would look around for a titan black. The Double precision would deem useful for what you are using it for. Although, I will still need to search that up.

Bozhark · May 6, 2015

Thank you both for your insight!

Bozhark · May 6, 2015

Bossyfins - I keep finding Titan X recommended over Titan Black. check the review at http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-TITAN-X-vs-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-BLACK

Could you explain the "doubling" you are talking about? I notice the Titan X is 12Gb while the Black is 6GB, that massive jump in memory alone, plus it cheaper in price... what am I missing about the Black that is so amazing?

logainofhades · May 6, 2015

For work related purposes, the Titan black would probably be better. For straight up gaming, the Titan X rules.

Bossyfins · May 7, 2015

"The 780 has very crippled double precision performance, like the rest of the Kepler GeForce family. The Titan and Quadro lineup aren't.

Double precision does not relate to error correction or accuracy, this is a misconception. It is about the precision of the floating points. Double precision floating points are twice as many bits as single precision floating points. In a single precision world, suppose you had 4 digits, 1.001 would be as precise as you could get. If the actual value or result of a calculation was 1.001281 then it would still turn out as 1.001 and feed that into the next part of the calculation. Whereas double precision floating points have twice as many places, and so can be more precise in specifying numbers and holding values.

Naturally this results in longer calculations, more VRAM usage, and higher file sizes, and most applications take no benefit from it, so it's not commonly implemented. CAD and 3D modelling benefit from it most."

Pretty much its a feature that allows for more precision. More accuracy basically.. Seeing that you are making models, the titan black will help more than a regular titan x.

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