i need a cpu for this rig

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

hello guys i have a pentium 4 with this rig i know its bottlenecking my gpu but its really awesome it can run most of the new games but nw i decided to get a new cpu for abt 75$
my mobo is lga 775
so my rig :
cpu: pentium 4 630 3ghz w\hyperthread
ram: 4gb ddr3
gpu : r7 240 1gb gddr5 with boost
hdd: 1tb western digital
mobo : ga-g41mt-s2pt lga 775
psu : nw i have a 500w cheap one which is not able to run that rig so ill get a cooler master case with psu 500w when iam getting the cpu nxt week

what cpu do u recommend for me

Mike BD · May 7, 2015

The CPU would be LGA 775 as well.
How about an Intel Core 2 DUO E8500 3,16 @3,16 Ghz as the one of my Desktop?

faalin · May 7, 2015

According to Gigabytes webpage your board will support a Core 2 Quad Q9650 since BIOS Version F2

or you can look on the list to see what you can find for a decent price
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3960

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

Mike BD :

thanks bro but how much did it cost u ??

Rapajez · May 7, 2015

Ok, a couple of things.

1.) You could get a SLIGHTLY faster LGA 775 CPU for this setup, but it would NOT be worth money. That platform is very old now. You need to update to a new platform (motherboard), before you'd see a noticeable gain. You're better off saving your money for something like the setup below:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $155.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-07 13:58 EDT-0400

That's a dual core + hyperthreading, which is "almost" a quad-core. If you can save a little longer, go with a i5-4570 or similar instead. That's also assuming you have a case that can support the smaller Micro-ATX motherboards. If not, get a full-sized H87 or H97 board.

The alternative from AMD would be a cheap 970 series motherboard and a FX-6350. The AMD CPU has more cores, but will usually be beat out by the Intel i3, as older (and many current) games won't use more than 4 cores, and the Intel cores are faster. The i3 uses a lot less power to boot.

2.) You probably don't want any PSU that comes free with a case. A cheap PSU can cause all kinds of hard to troubleshoot problems, and even damage your components. Check this article for more information: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Mike BD · May 7, 2015

yahia hamdy :

I bought it 3 years ago for 76$.
Now it costs less.
Also,I've looked up for Quard Core 2 Duo's and they are not beyond mine.

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

Rapajez :

Ok, a couple of things.

1.) You could get a SLIGHTLY faster LGA 775 CPU for this setup, but it would NOT be worth money. That platform is very old now. You need to update to a new platform (motherboard), before you'd see a noticeable gain. You're better off saving your money for something like the setup below:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $155.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-07 13:58 EDT-0400

That's a dual core + hyperthreading, which is "almost" a quad-core. If you can save a little longer, go with a i5-4570 or similar instead. That's also assuming you have a case that can support the smaller Micro-ATX motherboards. If not, get a full-sized H87 or H97 board.

The alternative from AMD would be a cheap 970 series motherboard and a FX-6350. The AMD CPU has more cores, but will usually be beat out by the Intel i3, as older (and many current) games won't use more than 4 cores, and the Intel cores are faster. The i3 uses a lot less power to boot.

2.) You probably don't want any PSU that comes free with a case. A cheap PSU can cause all kinds of hard to troubleshoot problems, and even damage your components. Check this article for more information: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

thanks bro really helped ill try to get them but about the psu the case will come with a psu i dont know i think 350w or 500w for about 60$ cooler master what would u say about it

Mike BD · May 7, 2015

yahia hamdy :

Rapajez :

thanks bro really helped ill try to get them but about the psu the case will come with a psu i dont know i think 350w or 500w for about 60$ cooler master what would u say about it

I'm using a 550W PSU for my Core 2 Duo,you'll need a 600W one,at least.

Rapajez · May 7, 2015

Yeah, it depends on your other components. Your GPU isn't very power demanding, and the CPU upgrade is actually MORE efficient, so a QUALITY 500W PSU would be fine. Something from one of the top 3 tiers in that article I linked.

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

Mike BD :

yahia hamdy :

Rapajez :

thanks bro really helped ill try to get them but about the psu the case will come with a psu i dont know i think 350w or 500w for about 60$ cooler master what would u say about it

I'm using a 550W PSU for me Core 2 Duo,you'll need a 600W one,at least

well iam not gonna buy that cpu ill buy a cheaper one ill search for a cheaper one and will ask u about it

Rapajez · May 7, 2015

Well, give me your total budget, whether you can fit a Micro-ATX board, and I'll recommend a good mobo/cpu combo. That's the sweet spot for the i3 right now though. Anything less is not going to give you a noticeable improvement, and anything more is going to cost a lot more.

Check NewEgg.com for combo deals. There's usually something out there for buying the mobo & CPU at the same time from them.

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

what about intel pentium g2030 3.00ghz with h61 mobo

yahia hamdy · May 7, 2015

Rapajez :

iam from egypt bro i cant buy from newegg

Rakanyshu · May 7, 2015

New CPU for that socket could get expensive i would rather get a new CPU/Mobo Combo.here i found a couple of CPUs that will be an upgrade from what you got but new ones aren't in your budget so you could just get a refurbished or an used one.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-E8500-Processor-Socket-LGA775/dp/B00116SLZS

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Q9650-Processor-Socket-LGA775/dp/B001D86S3G

Rapajez · May 7, 2015

That's still a budget processor and a platform that's 2 generations old.

Again, let me know your budget, give me a vendor you can buy from, and I'll recommend something.

If your budget is $75 USD, my recommendation would be to do nothing, and save more money before upgrading.

Mike BD · May 8, 2015

yahia hamdy :

That's a very cheap choice though.
As much as you don't have high demands for it,you would be fine.
I better recommend you to wait a bit and get some extra-cash.

yahia hamdy · May 8, 2015

thanks guys for help but iam not thinking about playing games at high ultra setting all i want to play the games with decent fps and i think i cant afford more than 110$ for both mobo and cpu if there is not a good choice ill go for a temporary good cpu and mobo (h61 mobo and g2030 cpu) and ill save extra money for a higher upgrade

Rapajez · May 8, 2015

It's your choice, but I wouldn't spend _any_ money, and just wait for a more tangible upgrade. For just a few more bucks, you'll be able to switch to a modern platform, vs a 5-year-old one.

Rapajez · May 8, 2015

Try overclocking your current CPU, rebuilding Windows, etc...in the meantime.

yahia hamdy · May 14, 2015

Rapajez :

u mean overclocking the cpu ill get ?? and does the h61 mobo support the bios overclocking (sorry i dont know about cpu overclocking but i know about gpu)

Rapajez · May 19, 2015

Usually "H" series mobo's don't support overclocking, only "Z" series. You have to check your specific model before you buy. If you're not comfortable overclocking, I wouldn't worry about it. I only brought it up as an option for your existing CPU, to get some more juice out of it before you upgrade it.

Again, that upgrade is NOT worth your money. You'd see very little improvement in your gaming. Just save up a little more and go with something that will actually improve your experience, and put you on a more modern platform.

Rapajez · May 19, 2015

How about this combo. Again, most games are starting to use 4 cores, so as a dual-core it's not very future proof, but it's at least a more significant jump. Being on a modern platform, you could also bump up to a newer, and/or more powerful CPU down the road, without needing to replace your motherboard AGAIN. Finally, with a firmware update and a good CPU cooler, you can overclock this combo pretty hard (Google).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£50.88 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£44.57 @ More Computers)
Total: £95.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-19 20:44 BST+0100

Those are UK vendors, not sure if those are available in Egypt. That site allows you to search a few more vendors, if you click on the link.

yahia hamdy · May 22, 2015

guys i got p81-d3 mobo and intel pentium g3240 3.1ghz , its very good in gaming i played bf3 on ultra setting with v-sync on with +30fps
i played alan wake on ultra setting with +30 fps and dying light on low setting of course but getting 20-30fps but i have problem since i got the mobo and cpu i installed drive 14.7 to my gpu (i dont know is that the reason or not) because i didnt DL the latest driver , i decided to download it(14.12 omega) yesterday but after installing it i notice that the performance of the games is getting worse and iam getting very low fps in games i opened task manager and found that the usage of the ram is 40% and i didnt install any program except norton and the cpu is 20% and i cant play any game i tried to install the old driver again but nothing changed i have installed 8.1 64bit on my pc please help me guys

Rapajez · May 22, 2015

That's more like it.

Did you re-install Windows after you upgraded? You always need a fresh install after upgrading a motherboard. Way too many conflicts and weird bugs otherwise.

If you already did that, try a clean uninstall of your GPU drivers, and download and re-install the latest, non-beta drivers.

Also try to flash the latest motherboard BIOS/UEFI, and download and install the latest audio, network, chipset, etc...drivers from the motherboard's website. I also sometimes use a free tool called "Slim Drivers" to track them down. It does a pretty good job without installing junk on your PC.

yahia hamdy · May 22, 2015

thanks bro i fixed it , the problem was the driver i unistalled it and installed older one its better nw and yeah i installed 8.1 after getting the new mobo but is that new rig good

i need a cpu for this rig

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