Cheap Pc build $450

Appleman08 · May 15, 2015

Hi guys, I need help with my first build and I plan on playing mostly Bethesda games with a budget of less than $450. Any help appreciated

Are these Okay?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2fKDyc
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fGLknQ

Mattz982 · May 15, 2015

Those builds are fine, if I was you I'd go for the Pentium G3258, it's cheaper and better. Maybe pirate the OS, I dont endorse it or antyhing but on a budget you have to save money so do that or buy just a key, in the UK we can find them at £20, knocked down from £80 which means more money for other stuff
Heres what I thought: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4MbYBm

senseijtitus · May 18, 2015

If your primary perpous is gaming, the components you have selected would be perfect. But for Hard disk, I would suggest Western Digital Black edition since WD is much better in terms of reliability that seagate and the Black Edition of WD is much better in read write tasks. 8GB of RAM would be more than enough if you are going to go with a high frequency RAM. The one you have selected is DDR3 with a frequency of 1866mhz. Although a little higher frequency would be even better. For Power supply though, I would say go with Seasonic or Antec since they have better capacitors and better overall output and performance.

sadams04 · May 18, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($103.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($32.42 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $441.34

senseijtitus · May 18, 2015

sadams04 :

But sadams04, this would total up to $441. Both of his options were below $400. Also the A Series chips he had selected were pretty good and they do not need a discrete graphic card for medium-high settings gaming for most of the games. If he wanted to, later he could purchase a card and crossfire it with the processors graphic cores and play with dual graphics at ultra settings.

I think he is better of with the AMD chips. But it is just my opinion. He is the one who has to make the decision best suitable for his needs and fits in his budget.

sadams04 · May 18, 2015

senseijtitus :

As the thread title states, budget of $450.

Even if the A10 were to be overclocked, the CPU and GPU performance would still be waaaay behind the Haswell i3 and R7 260x. They just won't be able to keep up! Speaking of, and assuming overclocking would be in order, don't forget an aftermarket CPU cooler if the OP decides to go with one of those FM2 builds.

Mattz982 · May 18, 2015

sadams04 :

senseijtitus :

As the thread title states, budget of $450.

Even if the A10 were to be overclocked, the CPU and GPU performance would still be waaaay behind the Haswell i3 and R7 260x. They just won't be able to keep up! Speaking of, and assuming overclocking would be in order, don't forget an aftermarket CPU cooler if the OP decides to go with one of those FM2 builds.

Surely you should have chosen the Pentium G3258? It's more powerful than the i3 and it's unlocked? http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-Intel-Core-i3-4130

sadams04 · May 18, 2015

Mattz982 :

Clearly that benchmark is skewed to overclocking and uses the insane prices of $425 for its value calculations of the i3. ...and I am sure you saw the top chart showing stock performance in favor of the i3 on all cores. The i3 is a better CPU all around than the Pentium.

"There are only three types of lies I know about. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain

senseijtitus · May 18, 2015

If it is the performance rating we are talking about, also check these web pages out.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-4130-vs-AMD-A10-7850K

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/445/AMD_A10-Series_A10-7850K_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-4130.html

http://versus.com/en/amd-a10-7850k-vs-intel-core-i3-4130.

I personally do not go for benchmarking results published in web pages. But the discussion had turned this way, I am posting these. These are just a few web pages I came across while searching the performance comparison for both of these processors for gaming.

sadams04 · May 18, 2015

senseijtitus :

Those are good reads, but only really useful for the CPU performance of the two processors. Those reviews are skewed for the GPU performance of the A10 (which is by far better than the built-in GPU on the i3).

Check out reviews specifically for CPU performance comparisons between the A10 and i3, then specific reviews for GPU performance comparisons between the R7 260x and the R7 240 or R7 250 (comparable to the A10 GPU).

Mattz982 · May 18, 2015

sadams04 :

Not sure what stats it's giving you then, for mine it's saying the i3 is $113, sometimes it gives images of a pc and a high price which refers to a system containing that CPU.

Alltogether that Pentium is half the price and only slightly underpowered compared to that i3 and in anyone elses eyes that makes the Pentium a much better CPU for a budget rig!

senseijtitus · May 18, 2015

sadams04 :

Sure sadams04. But I just posted them because they also tell where the A series can be useful and where they lack the juice to overwhelm the competition. Using a processor for gaming without the need for a dedicated graphic card and still do the job well enough in the mid-high settings is not a simple task. The A Series gives a medium level gamer the flexibility to avoid extra cost for high end or mid end Graphic card for gaming. Also it could use cross fire to integrate its graphic cores with a compatible discrete graphic card which could boost the performance in games if the user chooses to. I think (My Opinion

) this makes the AMD A series a great choice for the right user. But I do maintain the opinion that the Intel i series is a good series in its self. Both of these are strong in different ways on there own.

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