amd fx 6300 vs i3 4170

superninja12 · May 18, 2015

i want to build a budget gaming pc to play csgo and league of legends perhaps some streaming i cant decide between an amd fx

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

Hmm, hard question. For streaming, AMD will do a bit more work, but for gaming and stuff, i3. I'd go with i3 myself. FX 6300 is 15-20% more powerfull raw-power wise, when You can use all the cores. i3 is stronger core-wise, when You have only few cores utilized.

superninja12 · May 18, 2015

thank you for your quick reply uplink

Nextg_Rival · May 18, 2015

I'd go with the i3 and then eventually move on to an i5 when there's enough money to upgrade.

Manu92 · May 18, 2015

I have 6300 and I don't get any troubles running LoL/CS:GO on full details (now also depends on your GPU). I personally tend to go with AMD for mid-level components as it delivers a better price/quality ratio. If you want to go high-end then is definitely intel.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

oh no, not this thread again, the intel fanboys are coming...

in all seriousness though, you may wanna bump up to something like an fx-6350 since the price of all of AMD's chips are steadily dropping. You get better performance at a higher clock for just a bit more, wait til a Newegg sale or something

superninja12 · May 18, 2015

i jsut want to play league of legends or csgo without lagg and stream without lagg doesnt has to be in ultra but high 720p is fine

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

superninja12 - i3 will do just fine

for what You wrote. And I'm glad I could help.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

superninja12 :

Hmm, streaming? Yeah, I would probably recommend an fx-6350 for that, since streaming takes a good toll on the processor even at 720p

I stream 720p and 1080p all the time and run an fx-8120 (8 cores @3.1ghz) so 6 cores @3.9ghz should match up performance well and even outperform mine when streaming

superninja12 · May 18, 2015

so an intel i3 4170 or amd fx 6350 both are at the same price i dont want to go higher (because it stacks up)

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

PCBuilderProbs - I don't think it's about being an "intel fanboy". In general, it's about reliability, recovery ratio from power surges, overclocking stability [I know, no OC with i3] and plenty more. In general getting AMD today is a bad idea. No matter whether it's the field of graphics cards, or processors. In June, it may change, indeed, but till than, Intel all the way.

That i3 is almost as strong as 2500K, which is solid for 1080p streaming, for tons of twitch.tv partners out there. So I wouldn't see a problem here.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

uplink-svk :

did I not call it? I called it! I should receive an award.

Wisecracker · May 18, 2015

... In general, it's about reliability, recovery ratio from power surges, overclocking stability [I know, no OC with i3] and plenty more. In general getting AMD today is a bad idea.

hooey [hoo-ee] noun
silly or worthless talk, writing, ideas, etc.; nonsense; bunk:
That's a lot of hooey and you know it!

Nextg_Rival · May 18, 2015

If it comes to ONLY playing and streaming LoL and CS:GO, I can guarantee that the FX 6300 will do just fine since I've done these things with an FX 6300. As to the intel, it could probably manage too. The question is, do you want to upgrade in the future? If you want to upgrade, you should go with the i3 and then look at an i5 4460 as the potential upgrade. AMD CPU division is kind of dead atm, no good processors for top mid or high end are being made and the FX 6300 socket is basically dead. They've got decent GPUs though.

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

Wisecracker - it actually isn't. At my local reseller [one of the biggest in Central Europe], the statistics is telling pretty much clearly. AMD has about 3-5% RMA ratio, whilst Intel has 0,5-2%, depending on what products You wanna talk about [SSDs, CPUs, Graphics Cards, MotherBoards, etc.].

So nope, it's not a hooey, it's a fact.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

uplink-svk :

pls b0ss you ain't fooling anyone. Take your Intel elitism somewhere else.

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

PCBuilderProbs - wow, b0ss and elitism. That was rich. So when I recommend products, that I have experience with, that tend to break down less, than the other, it's elitism? Really cool. You know, not a single leaf will move on by it's own, without a wind. Or You think that AMD's disasterous reputation made it self up, by simply randomly piling up Intel fans? Intel doesn't even have advertising in a country where I live, AMD does.

I recognize and know well about AMD's superior technologies, CPU and GPU-wise. But those superior technologies were put on an ice, that's firstly. And secondly, I know it's not directly AMD's fault, but their graphics cards, motherboards [chipsets], ssds and cpus really tend to fail more often, compared to intel/nvidia. If these weren't a fact, people wouldn't react how they actually do.

This has nothing to do with Your nonsensual elitism and b0ss thing. Just keep Your head out of the clouds. AMD may change their bearing soon, but it's just not today, not now, and not in the past they did not. AMD uses old socket, with very little upgradability. Their strongest Vishera CPU is 9590 is the dead end of AMD's current architectural peak.

They need to refresh, and they need to gain back their trust. Driver-wise, electronic-wise, performance-wise. Few AMD fan boy base isn't enough to cut the chase. Deal with it.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

uplink-svk :

wow, you truly are an intel fanboy. I've never once doubted the power of a haswell i5 or i7, and my next build is most likely gonna be an i7 4790k. So let's get that off the table as while I like AMD I am not an AMD fanboy myself. I recognize that they're completely behind in CPU technology, but you gotta remember, we're so far ahead in CPU power in gaming it's not even funny. While GPUs struggle to keep up with how fast game companies are upping graphics (Star Citizen at 8k anybody?), most next gen 1080p graphics only take up a fraction of CPU usage (this includes the fx 8350 btw). So please, for the love of god, stop recommending i3 haswells to people who want cheap, good power that comes from an AMD chip. Not to mention free overclocking. b0ss.

uplink-svk · May 18, 2015

PCBuilderProbs - please do try to understand fact, that AMD's current platform is dead, totalled, it ended, it's finished. End of story. Buying AMD, when You can get solid Intel board, and upgrade to 4790k, or BW cpu's is madness.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

uplink-svk :

you fail to see my point entirely. I'm done.

Nextg_Rival · May 18, 2015

PCBuilderProbs :

I use an AMD FX 6300 and I assure you that it's widely insufficient for playing heavy duty games, especially if you try to do other things at the same time as well. I guarantee you that I can run enough programs for my CPU to be unable to cope and have heavy load applications crash. We are not that far ahead in terms of CPU technology. There are still quite a few things I can't do properly with my CPU because it simply is too weak. Too slow. If I had the choice, I would've probably went with an i3 4160 back when I got my PC. It's definitely not ideal, but it provides a better upgrade pathway at the very least.

PCBuilderProbs · May 18, 2015

Nextg_Rival :

[Hope I quoted right] consider this: an i3 4160 is $119.99. An FX-6300 is $99.99. AMD's price-point equivalent is the FX-6350. You can argue that it's not a big performance increase over the 6300, sure, but again I must stress free overclocking, which isn't available with the 4160. Also, you say the upgrade capacity isn't good with AMD, but at least you could upgrade to the FX-8350, or hell if you got a 990fx board initially there's even more incentive to upgrade to a 9000 series chip.

What I'm trying to say is that, yes, it's not good as intel, and I've said this, but price per performance ratio, or "bang for your buck" is a lot better with AMD. And yes, I know the fx 6300 isn't that powerful. That's why I said OP should go 6350.

crispytheone · May 19, 2015

Dual Core I3, hyperthreaded or not, is a no go from me. Games coming out, like Witcher 3 have minimum requirements that are at least a REAL quad core. I am under no illusion that the FX is a better CPU than the Intel offering, or the upgrade path, which for Intel is REALLY good

But for a budget gaming rig with the FX-6300, you can play everything coming for a while, then when you upgrade, you will have to get a new motherboard. The problem is people saying the AM3+ is dead, and so is 1150. New intel chip coming on a new socket, then next year new AMD CPU's coming on a new socket, so no matter what you get, when you upgrade, unless you want to move up on the "older" Intel platform, you will need a new motherboard.

So the ONLY reason to get an I3 is if you plan to upgrade, neither is going to blast through gaming like an I5, and they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but with all these new games coming that require a real quad core, an I3 is just not worth it for a gaming rig that you plan on using as-is for a while

madmatt30 · May 19, 2015

6300+aftermarket cooler is a better choice than the 6350 IMO.

The 6300 & 8320 are the only fx chips I use - they overclock well ,you'll want an aftermarket cooler with any amd chip if you care at all about noise levels.
The slightly higher clocked 6350/8350 chips are not worth the price premium.

LookItsRain · May 19, 2015

The i3 will destroy anything that amd has to offer gaming wise, plenty of benchmarks all over the web, wont beat on that dead horse anymore, plus, i own one.
For streaming with an i3, you be pushing it, i would buy an 8320 in this case unless you have the budget to get a i5.

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