Kind of desperate with low fps Wow

goyo1988 · May 21, 2015

Hello guys, I recently upgraded my computer in order to 'raid' in wow and I'm disappointed with the results. My build is the next one:
Fx 8350 @ 4.6 oc
Motherboard msi 970 gaming
Msi r9 270x gpu
2x4 gb Kingston hyper X blue ram
1 ssd 120gb
1 500 gb normal hdd

I was expecting to raid with ultra settings with at least 40fps + and I'm doing 20 man mythic raiding with 35 fps with between fair and good settings. When fighting.

The problem is that I don't know which compenent is holding me back and I'm getting to the point where I want to sell everything so I'm here for some advice.

Thank you for your help!

James Mason · May 21, 2015

Your CPU is the problem.
WoW is a single core game. It doesn't care how many cores you have, only how good your best one is.
Amd FX have pretty terrible single cores, even OC'd.
You need an intel CPU. Or lower settings.

goyo1988 · May 21, 2015

So im planning to get an i5 4690k would that do the work? What mobo do you recommend?
Should I be able to keep the same gpu?
Thanks for your help!

James Mason · May 21, 2015

goyo1988 :

GPU is fine .4690k is a great CPU, maybe overkill for WoW though, it's also much stronger than your GPU, but you can upgrade your GPU later and not be held back by your CPU.

You'll want a Z97 chipset board to go with the CPU, as you can't overclock it without a z97 board, and if you don't want to overclock get another i5-4### without a K at the end, and an h97 board.
You WILL have to reinstall windows though, bewarned. Windows sees motherboards as the computer, so if you get a new one, it says it's a new computer and thinks you're trying to pirate windows, also there are certain things done during setup specific to your motherboard that need to be redone.
Cheapest:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($163.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($45.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $208.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 23:31 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $242.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 23:33 EDT-0400

Most expensive:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $314.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 23:34 EDT-0400

goyo1988 · May 21, 2015

Wow thanks a lot for your answer for playing on ultra what is your best recommendation? Cheap medium or most expensive I want to have at least 40 frames stable.

James Mason · May 21, 2015

medium should be fine for ultra before being limited by your GPU. in wow that is, other games can be more demanding.

goyo1988 · May 22, 2015

Thank You!
I'll let you know what I got and how that worked as soon as I get the parts!

goyo1988 · Jul 9, 2015

Finally got some money for the 4690k but the mobo you suggested is not available in my country is any of this a good option?

Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 B85 HDMI ATX Tarjeta Madre con UEFI BIOS ATX

Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H motherboard - Placa base (DDR3-SDRAM, DIMM, Dual, Intel, Celeron, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, Pentium, Socket H3 (LGA 1150))

I'm kind of low on money since I haven't been able to sell the fx 8350 and its mobo.

James Mason · Jul 9, 2015

goyo1988 :

That motherboard will "work" with the 4690k BUT you'll lose out on the K part of it, which is the ability to overclock (and the extra money you spent for that option). Look for a motherboard with z97 in it's model.

goyo1988 · Jul 9, 2015

Ok so basically any z97 works? I'm kind of bad picking mobos.

goyo1988 · Jul 9, 2015

Im sorry to bother you again I found two choices that appear to be good and I don't know what to get.
T. MADRE GIGABYTE Z97X-SLI https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B00K9R1MCO/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_zaVNvbBN2EYSP
Or
ASUS Z97-A Tarjeta madre ATX, DDR3 2600, LGA 1150 https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B00K2MAU5Q/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_kdVNvb8KMNBJR

James Mason · Jul 9, 2015

goyo1988 :

The Asus one is better at overclocking but also more expensive because it's better. But the differences between them aren't that significant. Just decided whether you want to spend more money or not.

goyo1988 · Jul 9, 2015

And I will still be able to overclock with the msi? Would you spend the extra money?

Thank you!

James Mason · Jul 9, 2015

goyo1988 :

They both can OC, the Asus can do it just a little bit better is all.

The MSI h81 CAN'T OC. only Z-series motherboards can (z87,z97)
OCing is kind of a hassle to deal with though, and you may enjoy the easier experience (and lower price) the MSI h81 and i5-4440

H81 may not work with 4690k out of the box without a BIOS update, but you need a compatible Intel CPU to do that.

goyo1988 · Jul 9, 2015

I already have the 4690k tho and I've overclocked before but I don't know if it's worth to spend the extra on the Asus or if you know another option that might be better for my money.

James Mason · Jul 10, 2015

goyo1988 :

The 4690k doesn't need that heavy of an overclock (or even one at all) and both motherboards should be able to achieve a 4.0ghz OC without issue (all you should need)

You can read through this to see how motherboards perform with the CPU:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/i5-4690k-overclock-comparison-and-poll.209112/

(though not all CPUs are made the same and thus there are those who can OC way higher than others)

goyo1988 · Jul 10, 2015

Well i decided to read a lot and spend the extra money on the Asus

thank you for all your advice now I need to upgrade my gpu in December I really appreciate your help a lot.

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