G3258 overclocked vs i5 4690k help

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shallwetango

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Hi, After a few weeks of research I am stuck between two budget gaming builds.

One with the G3258 anniversary and Asus z97-A mobo

| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2015-05-22 13:57 EDT-0400 |


vs an i5 4690k with pc mate z97 mobo

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TyCpnQ)


I want to use this PC for gaming. Primarily playing CS:GO and Live streaming on twitch.

I'll probably be upgrading to that i5 in the future, another year or two.

But would the dual cores of the pentium (overlocked) be enough to live stream?

Thanks a lot guys.
 
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An i5-4690K on H97 works just fine, but won't overclock.
The Pentium does quite well in poorly-threaded titles, but there are better-threaded games coming out now that (out of the box, without hacks) won't even run on it.
You cannot count on overclocking though. I have two G3258's that I'm using for motherboard testing. The first can't even boot into Windows at 4.2GHz with 1.28V; the second can run Prime95 at 4.2GHz on only 1.20V. I've not tried to go higher because I was hitting 80C, and I'm only using the stock cooler. So, overclocking to a given point is absolutely not guaranteed.
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For the same price as the second build you can get an i5 and an R9 280X with a much better PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($166.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($63.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.50 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.49 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $609.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-22 14:04 EDT-0400

Getting a 4690K doesn't really make sense unless you have a GTX 970 or better. Overclocking just doesn't offer the same performance for your money as a better GPU does.

And as far as the first build goes, you can overclock a G3258 on a $40 H81 board, no point in buying a board that's 2x the CPU cost. Or getting a CPU cooler that's 80% of the CPU cost.
 
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If you want to stream while playing, you'll need more cores. You can overclock the snot out of the Pentium (and some are better than others), but you'll never get more cores. A locked i5 on a H97 board may be a good budget compromise. The only things it gives up are overclocking and SLI.
 
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I thought about that as well, but if I want to overclock in the future I would have to get a new mobo, cpu, psu, and fan.
as opposed to a fan, and psu with the 4690k + z97 pc mate

Thanks for the advice on the g3258 though. So even at 4.0 mhz, streaming would be an issue due to the dual cores?

ps. what about the 4690k with an h97 mobo?
I won't be overclocking for a while, since the 4690k is already quite powerful
 
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An i5-4690K on H97 works just fine, but won't overclock.
The Pentium does quite well in poorly-threaded titles, but there are better-threaded games coming out now that (out of the box, without hacks) won't even run on it.
You cannot count on overclocking though. I have two G3258's that I'm using for motherboard testing. The first can't even boot into Windows at 4.2GHz with 1.28V; the second can run Prime95 at 4.2GHz on only 1.20V. I've not tried to go higher because I was hitting 80C, and I'm only using the stock cooler. So, overclocking to a given point is absolutely not guaranteed.
 
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