CPU/Motherboard/Video Card/SSD Upgrade Decision

princepolo

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Before I begin, my current rig as such:

  • Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155
    Video Card: EVGA GTX770 Classified with ACX Cooling 4GB DDR5
    Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Storage 1: Samsung 840 Series 120GB
    Storage 2: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
    Memory: (2x) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133
    Case: Cooler Master HAF X
    Power Supply: Corsair Professional Series AX860i

So, with that out of the way, onto my dilemma; it's been two years since I first built my PC, and my whole reason for doing so was to be able to run every game max settings 60 frames per setting or more.

TL;DR: Hardware starting to show age, need advice on which CPU/Motherboard/Video Card/SSD to get with my $1400 (give or take $100) budget.

Up until now, everything has been smooth sailing. With my two most recent games - Grand Theft Auto 5 and Witcher 3 - and upcoming Arkham Knight, it won't be enough. With all this talk of Skylake and Zen processors coming out from both Intel and AMD as well as finding the best combination with video cards and RAM and the like, I'm not sure what to get. Come this fall, I'll have around $700 per semester extra from scholarships (based on last year's amount) to be able to upgrade my PC. From what I've been reading, it's not worth getting any current AMD processors for what I'm trying to accomplish. And considering predictions that Skylake will only receive a 5% performance gain over Haswell and leaks that Zen receiving a 40% performance gain over current AMD CPUs, is it better to just go ahead and get the current Haswell (if so, which one), or wait for either Skylake/Zen?

I do realize as of now that Zen is all speculation with a 2016 release, but I'm looking for a best guess. With the CPU comes a need for a new motherboard, which has less of an impact on performance, but does need to meet a certain requirement: I need 4 case fan ports like my current motherboard has.

Onto the video cards. At first I was looking at just getting a 970 or any after market R9 290X. Upon further research I stumbled upon this big guy. With recent reports showing that the R9 390X as well as the 980 Ti will be over or around $700, they might be completely out of my reach given my budget depending on the amount I receive. I would really just like some direction on which to pick.

And finally, my last problem is that my SSD is where I house Windows 7 and all the drivers/updates. It is filling up, with 22GB left as of now. I set all my downloads to go to my HDD which still has plenty of space, but I still find back ground files from some applications on my C: drive, which over time has really filled it up. I just need a great 256GB SSD and some advice on how to limit this issue in the future.

I appreciate any advice and thank everyone in advance!

- Princepolo
 
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Let me put the AMD Zen chip into perspective. Even if the 40% increase for the Zen chip is true, I still do not think that will bring AMD's Zen CPU's up to par with today's Intel CPU's. And by the time the Zen CPU's come out, Intel will have dropped 2 new sets of CPU's. Broadwell next month, and Skylake right around first of the year.

I really do hope AMD can get at least 40% improvement out of Zen. I really would like to see them challenge Intel again. It is only when Intel gets pushed, that Intel really moves forward at a pace that they should be moving forward at. And it would be damned nice to have to set here and debate which of the two companies will get my money when I next buy a CPU.

As for the rest of your post, yes, if you...
I have a GTX 770 as well. Mine has 4GB memory, you didn't list yours. But in most games we should be seeing the same performance most of the time.

While there are some games that wont run at high/ultra anymore, I find that lowering the settings to medium or normal still allows them to perform quite well. I would suggest living with this card until video cards with the new High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) come out next year. This is new technology that AMD will begin using on its new flagship video card next month. That card will come with HBM version 1. HBM v2 will be on the new cards from both AMD and Nvidia next year. That will be the time you will want to buy a new card next.
 

princepolo

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I have the 4GB as well. I have resolved to lowering settings to keep the 60 FPS+, but I stated that I wish to run things max settings and 60FPS+, which is why I wasn't sure whether or not to upgrade now or wait. I'll be getting the rest of my scholarship money next year, so I suppose I can wait for that until then and upgrade everything else first.

 
I should have said this earlier, but in looking at your hardware specs, other than the video card, I think I would stick with what you have now at least until the first of next year.

Intel will be releasing new desktop CPU's in a few weeks. This will be the last of the 1150 socket CPU's.

Very late this year or right after, the new Skylake desktop CPU's will be released, but those will use a new 1151 socket, and more expensive DDR4 memory. Rumors are that those CPU's should flat out scream, but again, we need to see benchmark numbers to be certain.
 

princepolo

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So upgrade the video card, and leave the rest for when the new CPUs come out?

From what I've read Skylake will give a performance boost of anywhere between 5 - 20%, whereas Zen from AMD is rumored to give 40%. Sure DDR4 is more expensive, but you won't have to buy it, Skylake will support DDR3.
 
Let me put the AMD Zen chip into perspective. Even if the 40% increase for the Zen chip is true, I still do not think that will bring AMD's Zen CPU's up to par with today's Intel CPU's. And by the time the Zen CPU's come out, Intel will have dropped 2 new sets of CPU's. Broadwell next month, and Skylake right around first of the year.

I really do hope AMD can get at least 40% improvement out of Zen. I really would like to see them challenge Intel again. It is only when Intel gets pushed, that Intel really moves forward at a pace that they should be moving forward at. And it would be damned nice to have to set here and debate which of the two companies will get my money when I next buy a CPU.

As for the rest of your post, yes, if you cannot sit back and watch what Nvidia and AMD release in the next 4-5 weeks, and watch how the prices change, and how the benchmarks look, and then make a decision, then the GTX 970 is a damned nice card.
 
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