What do you guys think about this gaming PC build?

Flynder · May 27, 2015

Hi people!
I am trying to build a new gaming PC http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/GdF43C that I can use for some years to come. Hopefully within a reasonable price range, I live in Denmark and through proshop.dk I can get all the parts for ~1250 euros if I buy them through proshop.dk (including Windows 8.1 in the price), I know it is quite a bit more expensive than listed on partpicker.com as you can see.
Maybe I need to look at other places I can buy the parts from.
I plan on playing the new games on high settings, not neccesary that I can play them on ultra with everything cranked up, just that I can enjoy games on reasonable settings, additionally I am looking to be able to stream SC2 on this machine.
BUT, far and away my biggest wish is that I find a machine that doesn't run into too many technical difficulties, my last PC had soo many troubles in that department that I became so sick of it. I really wish to get a 'well-oiled' machine were the parts fit well together and has some underlying stability to it. I plan on using it for games, work, and also streaming my games (I would be streaming almost exclusively Starcraft2 which I know isn't the most demanding game at least).
I use one monitor as we speak, but I've long wanted to use two monitors when I got a new PC, so there's that to take into account as well.
I am a complete noob at building PCs and I don't know what works together, what things does and so on, so please speak to me like I'm a child

Do you guys think it is a good solid build? Thank you!

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

Flynder :

Hi people!
I am trying to build a new gaming PC http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/zDbk3C that I can use for some years to come. Hopefully within a reasonable price range, I live in Denmark and through proshop.dk I can get all the parts for ~1250 euros if I buy them through proshop.dk (including Windows 8.1 in the price), I know it is quite a bit more expensive than listed on partpicker.com as you can see.
Maybe I need to look at other places I can buy the parts from.
I plan on playing the new games on high settings, not neccesary that I can play them on ultra with everything cranked up, just that I can enjoy games on reasonable settings, additionally I am looking to be able to stream SC2 on this machine.
BUT, far and away my biggest wish is that I find a machine that doesn't run into too many technical difficulties, my last PC had soo many troubles in that department that I became so sick of it. I really wish to get a 'well-oiled' machine were the parts fit well together and has some underlying stability to it. I plan on using it for games, work, and also streaming my games (I would be streaming almost exclusively Starcraft2 which I know isn't the most demanding game at least).
I use one monitor as we speak, but I've long wanted to use two monitors when I got a new PC, so there's that to take into account as well.
I am a complete noob at building PCs and I don't know what works together, what things does and so on, so please speak to me like I'm a child

Do you guys think it is a good solid build? Thank you!

It looks good. I wouldn't recommend Gigabyte for the video-card though.

Flynder · May 27, 2015

entropy4money :

Flynder :

It looks good. I wouldn't recommend Gigabyte for the video-card though.

Hi Entropy, thanks for your reply, I have edited my original post. My graphics card is now an ASUS http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/GdF43C this is the final list. Do you think this is better?

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

That looks good. Is there any particular reason you are getting the Z97? You could save money by getting the Z87 instead. The biggest thing about the Z97 is the M.2 port, but since you are getting a regular SATA SSD you won't be using the M.2 port. Most of the tech in the Z97 is not really used by most people these days.

Check this out:

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/z97-and-z87-difference-a-59.html

Flynder · May 27, 2015

entropy4money :

Ah, no there is no reason if these two does the same in this system. I am a noob at setting PC systems up, my friend made this build for me.

I just checked the price difference between the two boards, there is a small amount to save you're right indeed, but it is a rather minute price difference if this http://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASUS-Z87-K-(C2)-Haswell-2420924.html
is what we're talking about, like ~5 bucks difference to http://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/MSI-Z97-PC-Mate-2441919.html

but everything counts!

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

Well you are comparing ASUS vs MSI... And ASUS is better than MSI.

tiny voices · May 27, 2015

^ not true.

Both those boards are about equal in features and quality. The MSI is the better board in this case because it uses the newer Z97 chipset. The ASUS would require a BIOS update to the the 4460.

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

You're forgetting components... ASUS uses much better quality components than MSI. Yes the MSI has the new Z97 chipset, and it will let you use an M.2. interface SSD, but you are not getting an M.2. interface SSD so... You could probably find a much cheaper Z87 MSI. Asus tends to be more expensive than MSI, but trust me, Asus has much better quality components, you can do the research yourself and find out.

tiny voices · May 27, 2015

Again that is false. ASUS use lower quality components on their lower end boards like every company does. You are just using a blanket statement which is not true at all to try to prove a point.

Every company has good and less good boards. In reality that MSI and that ASUS board are both made with the exact same quality capacitors. The MSI has a better VRM heatsink, is the newer chipset, and requires no BIOS update to work out of the box with OP's CPU. It even has better newegg reviews. It is the better board, 10000%.

Please stop trying to blanket MSI as a poor quality company. This is not true at all. Looks at the specs of the boards before you try to make a claim like this.

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

I am not saying MSI are a poor quality company... Ok let's say they use the same components as MSI. What about quality control? It is hard to say... but I've had much better experience with ASUS than MSI, and the worst experience with Gigabyte. And most people I know choose ASUS over MSI. It is hard to say unless you work for any of the two companies... anyway, your statement is as blank as mine, and it is up to Flynder to choose what motherboard to get. If he wants to fall for the "you need M.2. interface" marketing campaign then whatever.

I say you will be good with either ASUS or MSI, they're both good, but to my experience, ASUS is better.

tiny voices · May 27, 2015

MSI used to have poor quality control (circa 5 years ago) it has since become VASTLY better is is on par with everyone else.

I personally have had better experience with MSI. I have built 100+ computers and never really had any issues with any company specifically. I have had a few HDDs fail here, a board go bad there, but no one company has stuck out as failed more often than the others.

Getting a z97 board has nothing to do with the M.2 sata. It has all to do with working right out of the box with his cPU which the MSI will and the ASUS will not. Plain and simple. I'm not pushing M.2 at all. Personally I don't see the point for it.

Also, that particular ASUS gets alot of bad reviews. I would get the MSI. It just makes the most sense. Requires no BIOS update and will simply work.

I strongly recommend the MSI in this case.

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

tiny voices :

Ok, regardless of ASUS vs MSI. Couldn't he save some money with an MSI Z87 though? I don't know how much cheaper it will be. But if it is much cheaper, I don't see a reason on buying the new Z97.

tiny voices · May 27, 2015

I mean is it worth the couple bucks to have to deal with a BIOS update for someone who never has even messed with PCs before? NO. The whole point in getting the newest board is to NOT have to do a BIOS update which usually requires getting a compatible CPU (borrowing/buying and returning). This is stupid when OP can just buy a board that works right out of the box.

OP, get a Z97 or H97 board for your i5 4460. In reality an H97 board will be cheaper and more suited as you are not overclocking anyway.

DO NOT get an H87 or Z87 board. It is just not worth the trouble.

entropy4money · May 27, 2015

That's not necessarily true... He could get a Z86 board with the latest BIOS installed, he just has to make sure the board has the latest BIOS on it, which is probable. And if it does, then saving the money makes sense, right?

tiny voices · May 27, 2015

No, generally boards ship with the oldest BIOS installed. I have done TONS of builds and this happens all the time.

He should be buying a proper motherboard, not trying to do some work around to save $5. What happens when he gets a bard with a BIOS that isn't updated? He is SOL and cannot use the board.

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