Black screen upon booting up caused by a Windows update. Takes place prior to login screen. Pictures inside.

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Hi there!

I think I popped in to ask this question a few months back. Unable to get an answer, both from here or the rest of the internet, I gave up, and haven't bothered updating windows for the past 3 months. My issue is caused by a culprit in a sea of Windows updates, as it was before. Rather than forcing my PC to restart dozens of times to find the cause, I thought it would be better to just wait it out and find the exact one, so as to avoid stress. Yesterday I tried updating again to receive the same issue, so today I'm back.

The exact scenario:

Update, boot up again, get MOBO screen, load into black screen. My cursor is invisible unless I move it. If I stop moving it it disappears. There seems to be a near constant loading ring around it when this happens. What it could be loading I have no idea, but that might be worth noting.

Below is a link to a list of the updates through two pictures, and, of course, my specs. If anyone has any idea which it might be, I'd greatly appreciate the help.

http://imgur.com/a/SRgCA

Specs:

i5-4570

Zotac GTX 970

MSI B85-G41 MOBO

EVGA 650G
 
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ya just override your good working stuff

starting with windows 8 Microsoft knows better then you on what you want and need - and if you think all the 8 stuff is bad wait until 10 should of just called window 8.1+ more crap you don't want or need with cortana '' your clever new personal assistant'' to help me - never needed it before and don't need it or want now -- what a joke
 
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Alright, I've gone through most of the steps. For the

" install with the vendors setup program and reboot. Then enter control panel and re-enable the autoinstall of the drivers again."

By vendors setup program, does he mean the one we download online (the typical Nvidia or AMD installer), or do we have to install it through Windows now? I'd just like to be certain. I've uninstalled my drivers after having autoinstall off, rebooted, and now I'm at the last "install with the vendors setup program and reboot." step. I feel like if I update using the typical installer it'll break it again.
 
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I would assume ? cant you disable all that Microsoft auto stuff and just manually install what ''YOU'' feel you need under the venders proper install/ uninstaller ??

seems like the venders would be the latest Microsoft may be well behind with what they offer you -- as for my I never do any auto updates I se what updates are offered and check each one out first to see weather I want to install it or hide it cause I don't want it or really has nothing to do for me

see you let them install everything and now may of got something that did more harm then good -- I don't see myself moving off 7 till the day I die at the rate windows is going and it direction . more and more intrusive - less privacy- more cloud based -- its like they don't care about the core os and all they want is to add useless crap then force it on you

I yet to see anything in 8 -8.1 - or 10 that appeals to me.. looks like a lot of crapware then a solid desktop os

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2165451/dont-windows-windows-automatically-download-device-drivers-icons.html

2 things I agree with from here
1- Download updates but let me choose whether to install them.
2- Install Updates One at a Time- [really just not in bulk do a few like 5 and that way you know if a issue pops up it maybe one of them 5 then do them one at a time to see ] you do 5 or more you got some work to do like that list you showed that's a lot of weeding things out ..

also I check each update from its support page to see what it realy does for me
example
I get one in like this one kb 3046002
I highlight I, t and theres a ''more information link for it so I click it to bring up this support page and review the update to determine if its one I would except to install . if its one I don't care to I uncheck it and select the ''hide'' option , and with that it will not come back up unless I recall it to do so .
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3046002

 
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Alright.. bumping this... this sucks

I tried junkeymonkey's solution (which was someone else's, technically), and to no avail.


"bummer,
at this point you would go into control panel, disable the autoinstall of device drivers, uninstall the video driver,
reboot, and install with the vendors setup program and reboot. Then enter control panel and re-enable the autoinstall of the drivers again."


I did this. All of it. Perfectly. I wasn't entirely sure what he meant by "vendors setup program", be it the actual Nvidia one or the Windows one. I assumed the former, which should have been obvious, so I tried installing that the first time. No dice. So I did a system restore, restarted, and then tried to do it again by letting the one through Windows run..

No dice. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with my graphics card OR there's something much worse going on with it. I'm absolutely stumped. That solution seemed to make the most sense, but I seem to be SOL.

 
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'' this point you would go into control panel, disable the autoinstall of device drivers, uninstall the video driver,
reboot, and install with the vendors setup program and reboot. Then enter control panel and re-enable the autoinstall of the drivers again."

''re-enable the autoinstall of the drivers again."
the point was not to do this so windows would not try to remove or overwrite the drivers you installed , right ?? you do the ones you want manually screw what windows wants and put yopu right back to square one

I guess all this is why most fall back to 7 -- reason why Microsoft went from 8 to 8.1 and now 10 quickly and seem too dumb to understand there os now sucks if it was not for gaming windows would be done for out side of that something like Linux does all the rest well [for free]

I wish I knew what more to tell you looks like they will have to pry windows 7 and below from my cold dead fingers and I do feel 10 will end up another step backwards as well

 
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