Need Help On New Build ( Psu especially ) !

Sidek Meher · May 30, 2015

Hi i am planing to buy a new pc this summer , so i have built one
so i'd you guy's to give me advice about is this build is good ? is the part are well chosen between each other ? is the build is well rounded Overall ?
now the only concern that i have is the psu Wattage will be enough knowing that i am willig to do some Overclocking ? not intensive but like a fine overcloking .
note that i am willing to change the GPU maybe a year or 2 later ( Nvidia maybe ) i did get the 290 ( after watching several benchmark's )
because it was 287euro only compare to 290x 349 euro and there is no realy difference between the two especially for me who play at 1080p so i guessed that 290 will be enough for now. did i made the good choice !?

ps : the 960 and 970 were expensive compare to the 290 ( especially with the deal ) even though i prefere the 290 over the 960 but not over the 970 !

i posted a picture of the build from were i will buy

Thank you !

g-unit1111 · May 31, 2015

That looks pretty good, the only things I would suggest changing are your power supply and SSD - those cheap Kingston drives are not good, and the Corsair VS power supplies aren't that good either. I would suggest looking at Seasonic or EVGA if they're available where you live. Also add an aftermarket cooler for overclocking.

qwerty987123 · May 31, 2015

as said above i would consider a different ssd and psu but also if you're building in the summer the new cards from amd may be an option or simply reduce the prices of current cards

Sidek Meher · May 31, 2015

ok , so to be clear , am not exactly on a cheap budget pc but i i got to say that i am limited in money too , so that's what i think: -leave the ssd for now as i can always add one later it's not that big deal
- change the WD blue to seagate barracuda 1tb ( same price )
-aput the extra money saved on a more reliable psu ( i found the CORSAIR CP-9020061-EU 750 Watt as the only psu 750w 80 bronze , not above 100euro , is it good ? )

the thing is , that i can only buy from that website i want to get all part together not just like one from ebay other from amazon etc... (it has good prices and they changes too sometimes up sometimes down )
so that almost leave me with a 300-350euro for the GPU .so i don't know .

there is a special price for a zotac and a gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 (4gb LOL ) for 350euro , i don't know , wait for new amd gpu's maybe or just go with 970 ( maybe the 3.5gb will be a probleme in the future ) ?
@g-unit1111 : there is one after market cooler hyper 212 evo in the picture .

edit : i did a a little bit of reading about the case nzxt h440 , and it say that the case is not thta good in air colling some even said it is awful now i know am not gonna be runing like a amd cpu there ( not even maybe a r9 290x ) and surely not in a hot ambient room or place , but i am a little bit concerned i mean the case is not cheap after all , i was thinking abotu the fractal r5 but man the h440 look much better to me , what do you guy's think !!?

g-unit1111 · May 31, 2015

ok , so to be clear , am not exactly on a cheap budget pc but i i got to say that i am limited in money too , so that's what i think: -leave the ssd for now as i can always add one later it's not that big deal
- change the WD blue to seagate barracuda 1tb ( same price )
-aput the extra money saved on a more reliable psu ( i found the CORSAIR CP-9020061-EU 750 Watt as the only psu 750w 80 bronze , not above 100euro , is it good ? )

They're decent - they're an older model based on an older Channel Well platform. I'd have to check the site you're buying from to see what is available. I'm not saying ditch the SSD altogether but there's much better lower cost options available. Pretty much anything from Samsung is a better buy than Kingston.

the thing is , that i can only buy from that website i want to get all part together not just like one from ebay other from amazon etc... (it has good prices and they changes too sometimes up sometimes down )
so that almost leave me with a 300-350euro for the GPU .so i don't know .

Can you link to the site and post your budget?

there is a special price for a zotac and a gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 (4gb LOL ) for 350euro , i don't know , wait for new amd gpu's maybe or just go with 970 ( maybe the 3.5gb will be a probleme in the future ) ?
@g-unit1111 : there is one after market cooler hyper 212 evo in the picture .

That is a fine choice for a cooler. The Gigabyte or EVGA cards are better options than Zotac if they're available where you live.

edit : i did a a little bit of reading about the case nzxt h440 , and it say that the case is not thta good in air colling some even said it is awful now i know am not gonna be runing like a amd cpu there ( not even maybe a r9 290x ) and surely not in a hot ambient room or place , but i am a little bit concerned i mean the case is not cheap after all , i was thinking abotu the fractal r5 but man the h440 look much better to me , what do you guy's think !!?

There's no reason to buy an AMD CPU at this point for gaming so don't even consider that. Intel CPUs are known for low power consumption and also generate less heat than their AMD counterparts. I have an H440 and it's an excellent case, I haven't had any problems with it. You can't go wrong with the Define R5 either.

DCatboone · May 31, 2015

I am a firm believer in future proofing as much as possible. I would upgrade your psu, If you buy a cheap psu you have two problems (imo) 1. it will most likely fail sooner than a quality psu, and won't have the same warranty as a quality psu, which will lead you to having to replace it more often, and you could potentially end up spending more money on crappy psu's than if you had just gotten a quality one in the first place, and 2. if you get one with higher wattage limits you won't have to worry about it at all if you ever upgrade the graphics card, or add more cards. Also modular psu's are rather nice for cable management

g-unit1111 · Jun 1, 2015

DCatboone :

Well there's absolutely no such thing as "future proofing" and I've been saying that for years. Higher wattage limits aren't at all what they used to be - in fact the trend toward CPUs and GPUs is moving in the opposite direction and everything is getting more energy efficient with a few exceptions. Plus small form factors are also becoming a lot more common thanks to the Steam Box.

DCatboone · Jun 1, 2015

hence why i said as much as possible... as in still relevant in the next five plus years. My build lasted the entire ddr3 era, when i build a ddr4 box it should last till the next thing that comes out. I also said nothing about form factor, this guy is using a mid tower, so obviously he isn't using a small box. good job making a useful reply

g-unit1111 · Jun 1, 2015

DCatboone :

But what I was getting at is that nothing is entirely future proof - doesn't matter if it's RAM, your motherboard, your CPU, your GPU. Nothing is guaranteed to last five years and still run the latest games, and that doesn't matter if you're spending $500 or $5,000.

DCatboone · Jun 1, 2015

g-unit1111 :

but i was getting at was simply since he had chosen a cheaper psu, he could consider spending a little bit more money and getting a better one. Quality psu's will last longer, and have better warranties backing them as well as having generally better power saving options. I also suggested getting a modular psu because that will help with cable management and the longevity if god forbid they move away from sata. and yes, nothing is 100% going to be relevant in 5 years, that all depends on if you are lucky enough to build at the right time before anything new comes out like DDR4 and what exactly you use your pc for. serious gamers will do a lot more upgrades than someone who only plays LoL and games like that

Sidek Meher · Jun 1, 2015

Hi , First Of All , thank you guy's so much for your help ,

but i was getting at was simply since he had chosen a cheaper psu, he could consider spending a little bit more money and getting a better one. Quality psu's will last longer, and have better warranties backing them as well as having generally better power saving options. I also suggested getting a modular psu because that will help with cable management and the longevity if god forbid they move away from sata. and yes, nothing is 100% going to be relevant in 5 years, that all depends on if you are lucky enough to build at the right time before anything new comes out like DDR4 and what exactly you use your pc for. serious gamers will do a lot more upgrades than someone who only plays LoL and games like that

i did not cheap on PSU as i said above , that's almost the only 750w 80+bronze psq below 100euro i could find in that website , ( as i can only buy from that website ) or maybe i did'nt look hard enough §

There's no reason to buy an AMD CPU at this point for gaming so don't even consider that. Intel CPUs are known for low power consumption and also generate less heat than their AMD counterparts. I have an H440 and it's an excellent case, I haven't had any problems with it. You can't go wrong with the Define R5 either.

thank you , the h440 it is then ^^ !

Can you link to the site and post your budget?

yes sure i didn't post the link to the website at first because i though there was some policy that deny it etc... but here's the link directly to the pc parts section ( it is in italian )
www.mrprice.it or www.eprice. they are pretty much the same and work's with each other .

At last my budget is between and can't go beyond 1000-1200 euro Max !

Thank you

g-unit1111 · Jun 1, 2015

DCatboone :

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disputing that in the least - I'm all for getting the best power supply you can get as that's one component you can carry over from build to build. What I'm saying though is that the trend is moving toward energy efficiency and smaller form factors. Honestly the days of ultra large towers and power supplies over 1KW are no longer necessary unless you're setting up say a Bitcoin mining farm. But for gaming that's something that just isn't necessary to spend the extra money on. I'm all for getting a quality supply and I've been burned by cheap ones before. Now should you use a five year old PSU on a current build? I would say most definitely not, that's when it is time to upgrade. But yeah a quality PSU will last you for years and you can swap it between motherboards and cases.

i did not cheap on PSU as i said above , that's almost the only 750w 80+bronze psq below 100euro i could find in that website , ( as i can only buy from that website ) or maybe i did'nt look hard enough §

Only the Corsair AXi and HXi are the PSUs you should be looking at if you're going with Corsair - everything else uses inferior capacitors that aren't exactly known for quality. If Seasonic is available where you live that would be a much better bet. Maybe something like this: http://www.misterprice.it/informatica/componenti-assemblaggio/alimentatori/item_16ED8J

And then for the SSD I'd go for something like this: http://www.misterprice.it/informatica/memorie-e-dischi/hard-disk-interni/ssd/item_18I83H

Sidek Meher · Jun 1, 2015

i found an EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR for 130euro
and a Evga 970 ac 2.0 for 363 euro
that seem's like a good deal right ?
i mean i think the evga psu is better than the seasonic right !?
it's from amazon i mean if its good ill try to get it from there for a better psu right ?

g-unit1111 · Jun 1, 2015

Sidek Meher :

You want to get a 970, don't bother with a 750TI at this point, it will be replaced relatively soon.

Sidek Meher · Jun 1, 2015

but i didn't mention the 750ti , who is talking about the 750ti !!?

qwerty987123 · Jun 2, 2015

i think gunit may have meant the 290 being replaced by the 300 series but i'm not sure

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