i7 4790k or i7 6700k

BruNreaL · May 31, 2015

I will sell my fx-8350+sabertooth+8gbram to a friend of mine that really needs one

So i'm wondering if it is worth to wait for skylake or buy now the i7 4790k with a asus rog ranger and 8gb ram.
Already seen some advices but i'm not sure, i really like the combo with the 4790k+asus rog ranger and my asus gtx780 CUii, but with the new skylake i can start using DDR4 and have newer architecture, and the MotherBoards will be limited in the beginning, and the price high... oh doubts

I will sell my actual rig in the beginning of september to my friend... so give me some suggestions pls

Cumps Br.uNreaL

RCFProd · May 31, 2015

It is hard for us to tell because we don't really know if they will be significant better.

I can't comment before those Skylake processors/motherboards are on the market.

TechyInAZ · May 31, 2015

I can't really give you a recommendation since skylate won't be out for a while still.

However, if you do go with haswell, then you can be like me with my PC. I plan to upgrade my haswell i5 to a broadwell i7 in the future, so that should keep your PC up to date.

babernet_1 · May 31, 2015

Yes, go with the Skylake. It will be out by September.

geofelt · May 31, 2015

Worth is something only YOU can determine.

Details on skylake are not certain.
My guess is that we will see a 10-15% price performance improvement.
Much more from integrated graphics, but with a discrete graphics card that is no big benefit.

I doubt that you would be disappointed if you bought a i7-4790K now.
Current haswell chips are not dependent on fast ram speeds today, so I expect DDR4 to not be a big benefit; and it is more expensive.

Where you might see a difference with skylake and the Z170 chipset is the capability of using faster MNVe SSD devices.

Zircoben · May 31, 2015

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Of course, things can change from the leaked benchmarks above, but definitely; waiting is a better idea. Skylake will be a new socket (LGA 1151) and waiting until then will set you up for the future in RAM (DDR4), CPU upgrades, and better motherboard technologies as a whole.

Geofelt is correct also, but I'd recommend waiting, then you'll be open to upgrades and what the future of the PC market is. You never regret waiting for the newer product.

Hope this helps

BruNreaL · May 31, 2015

Well my only problem is that i have to buy till 4rd september!!
All your points of view are correct, i have to think very well about it, money isn't really a problem but i hope they release the socket at least in the beginning of August and with it some good MB!! hmmmm tough decision!

RCFProd · May 31, 2015

You could just build a cheap system and use that until September and then sell it for your Skylake build.

Something like an Intel i3-4150 + GTX 750 Ti build?

BruNreaL · Jun 1, 2015

RCFProd :

I already have a gtx780, so I don't need a gpu, but buy a MB and CPU just for that it's not worth it, a waste of money I think, better buy the 4790k in that case!
I just hope that till end of August they release it with good motherboards otherwise I have to live without my PC during a month or so :lol:

geofelt · Jun 1, 2015

Do not worry about buying ai7-4790K.
Yes, newer tech is usually better, but how good do you really need to be?
The availability date and the performance of skylake is not exactly known.
Availability may not be until November or even later.

You could buy a 4790K now and see how you do.
If skylake looks attractive to you in November, you still have the option to sell the 4790K and motherboard then.
It is a bummer to be without a PC for months.

CyberDevil · Jun 6, 2015

I'd wait it out for the I7 6700K. If the rumors stand correct, it is about 8-10% faster than 4790K. The flagship Core i7-6700K CPU, is a quad core design with eight threads which shows a multi-threaded design. The chip features 8 MB of L3 cache and has clock speeds maintained at 4.0 GHz base and 4.2 GHz boost clock. The chip can support DDR4 2133 MHz memory and DDR3L 1600 MHz memory. It's 14nm fabricated. Always go with the new hardware. Plus, the Z170 mobos are cheaper than X99 mobos.

Mugglensu1984 · Aug 10, 2015

Anyone who buys a 4790K today will not (and should not) look towards a CPU upgrade unless there will be a 50% improvement in CPU performance. That said waiting for the 6700K is entirely upto you.

TechyInAZ · Aug 10, 2015

Mugglensu1984 :

Agreed. That's why I personally plan to upgrade to Cannon Lake (formally Skymont) from haswell since in about 2-3 years it will be a hopefully fast enough performance gain. It will probably 1st gen 6 core CPUs (when I mean first gen I mean a whole new gen, bye bye intel Core i.

).

Another thing you have to factor in too is overclocking. If anybody has a overclocked 4.5-4.9ghz 4690K or 4790K then speed wise the Skylate will be a downgrade if you plan to run at stock.

Neo Alison · Aug 20, 2015

Okay Skylake is out now. What do you think about getting a new build that goes with it? Do you still believe that 4790K is a smart choice? The most important thing is that will there be better CPU's for this socket or this is another X99 all over again? what about the new mobos? Will the perform better than Z97 boards regarding GPU - CPU speed?
I would love hear the answers for these questions.

Regards
Neo

TechyInAZ · Aug 20, 2015

Neo Alison :

Skylate is all about features and efficiency, not performance. The difference between haswell + DDR3 and Skylate + DDR4 is only around a 10% speed increase.

It's a good buy though, the features of skylate defiantly make it better over haswell.

Neo Alison · Aug 20, 2015

TechyInAZ :

Neo Alison :

Skylate is all about features and efficiency, not performance. The difference between haswell + DDR3 and Skylate + DDR4 is only around a 10% speed increase.

It's a good buy though, the features of skylate defiantly make it better over haswell.

but you did not mention anything about it being futuristic and getting more and better CPU's over the years!

TechyInAZ · Aug 20, 2015

Well, just like all the tech geeks say: Nothing is future proof.

Plus, nobody knows if intel is going to put newer cpus on the lga 1151 platform anyways. Intel doesn't share it's secrets.

babernet_1 · Aug 20, 2015

TechyInAZ :

They already stated they are putting out a tock next year, the Kaby Lake. That, being a sped up Skylake will, indeed, be compatible with the 1151 platform.

The Cannonlake, coming out in 2017 (may be late) will need a new motherboard.

Neo Alison · Aug 20, 2015

TechyInAZ :

Point taken but having said that we have seen some good to great CPU's for Z97 platform I was just wondering will that be the same for this platform or not if yes then I should move from X99 to this one and use the current CPU's and then upgrade if necessary.
Is there any good reason to move from Z97 or X99 to this new baby? I am sorry for being noobish and all that cuz I am about to build a second rig very soon and it is just a mere curiosity

TechyInAZ · Aug 20, 2015

Neo Alison :

It all depends on what your doing with your rig. X99 to Z170 is pretty much dumb since X99 is way more powerful than z170.

Another thing to realize too is that X99 and the Z series chipsets are two different categories. one is designed for the big boy enthusiasts and the other is designed for the mainstream peeps like us.

I forgot that kaby lake (goofy name LOL) was coming out next year. Can't wait to see how cannonlake does.

Exeonx · Aug 20, 2015

From what I see the 6700K is the way to go if you want to get a quad-core and mainly go into gaming, you can go with the X99-line but it seems only better for video rendering/editing and 3-way or more SLI

Despite the CPU's being about the same price the Motherboards are about 200€/$ more so it's quite a jump for some people.

Honestly every CPU generation I see the same thing, Minimal increase in preformance for gaming, and nothing to really spend anything on, it's all best spent on a GPU as it's pretty much 99% of a gaming computer's preformance(assuming you aren't going to O.C and even then)

At this point I wonder why people bother with the CPU's unless they are 3-4 gens behind, are getting an entirely new system or need it for non-gaming related things

sammy sung · Aug 20, 2015

I made the jump from a 4670K to my 5930K. Very similar performance per core, but a world of difference for my virtual machine and file compression fetish

Neo Alison · Aug 20, 2015

sammy sung :

May I ask what exactly do you mean by this '' virtual machine and file compression '' ?

Neo Alison · Aug 20, 2015

sammy sung :

May I ask what exactly do you mean by this '' virtual machine and file compression '' ?

TechyInAZ · Aug 20, 2015

Neo Alison :

Virtual Machines and File compression use LOTS of cores/threads to get the job done quickly. So for these cases having more cores is better.

Man, that must be fun having a 5930K. I run VM's on my 4690K but I bet it's nice not having a limited CPU supply anymore.

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