Requesting advice for new PC build which will mainly be used for animating, modelling and rendering.

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Hi all, I tried posting this earlier in the week but it looks like it was in the wrong location so I hope this is the right place to post now lol

I have never posted on this forum before (the prrevious post I mentioned is this same post) but while doing some research and following some Google results to this site, I noticed how helpful the community can be to others so I thought I would see if you may be able to assist me.
First of all, this is a long post, I apologize for the length but did not want to leave any details out in case they may be pertinent.

Ok, so I will be starting a few 3d modelling and animation courses soon and would like to ask some advice on what type of computer hardware I should get to support the necessary programs, I am a complete novice in this regard, I have never constructed a PC or it’s components before and much of the terminology sounds like another language to me :??: so please be patient with me if my questions appear foolish to you.
I will be using the following programs as they are required by the courses:

Modeling/animation Programs:

Atodesk Maya
http://www.autodesk.com/products/maya/overview
System Requirements:
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/maya/troubleshoot...

Pixologic Zbrush
http://pixologic.com/zbrush/features/overview/
System Requirements: unknown

3DCoat
http://3d-coat.com/3d-coat-v4/
System Requirements: unknown


Video editing and compositing Programs:
Nuke
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/?gclid=CLCJ8I...
• System Requiremens: too many to list
• http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/sys-reqs/


Adobe Premier
http://www.adobe.com/au/products/premiere.html?kw=semge...!3085!3!68033462944!b!!g!!adobe%20premiere%20pro&s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!68033462944!b!!g!!adobe%20premiere%20pro&ef_id=UX9U8gAABHW4EUw6:20150520225959:s
System requirements for Premiere: Uknown, only says:
Mac OS X 10.7 not supported for CC 2014 digital video applications
System requirements for Premiere Pro: too many to list
https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirement...

Image Editing Programs:


Photoshop (version unknown)
https://www.adobe.com/au/products/photoshop/versions.ht...
System Requirements: unknown
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.h...
Visio
https://products.office.com/en-au/Visio/visio-standard-...
System requirements: Unknown
Gimp
http://www.gimp.org/
System requirements: Unknown

Render Engines:
Autodesk Mental Ray
http://www.autodesk.com/products/mental-ray-standalone/...
System requirements: Unknown


Game Engines:

Unreal Engine
https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4
Unity
https://unity3d.com/

Arnold
http://www.solidangle.com/arnold/



I will also be using the following two programs, though they are not course related:
Poser Po 2014 with Lux render

Blender 2.74
https://www.blender.org/
System Requirements:
https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/

I may also use NewTek Lightwave 3D 2015
At a later date.
https://www.lightwave3d.com/new_features/


After attempting some research online I seem to have narrowed down the required components to the following:

Operating System:
I am currently using Windows XP Professional 32-bit and have decided to get Windows 8 or 8.1 64-bit for the new computer. (After looking at the comparison between 8.1 and 8.1 professional I don’t believe the Professional edition would benefit me much, especially for that much of a price difference.)
RAM:
Currently have 3.25GB of Ram and find it to b insufficient for my needs so I believe I need at least 8 GB of RAM on the new PC or maybe 32 GB as was suggested to another ….., not sure which is best in my case, any recommendations?

HardDribve:
I currently have a 420 GB Hard drive on my Windows XP PC so I feel 1 TB or 2TB Hard drive would be best, or do feel more would be required?
USB Ports:
I have 6 ports on my current system, 2 front and 4 back but I often have to unplug the keyboard to add a video camera or memory stick as the other 4 ports are taken up by my 4 external Hard Drives so I feel 8 would be better on the new PC, as long their installation would not cause issues.

Graphics/ Video Card:
This is where I really come unstuck, there are so many variations I feel lost.
My current Card is an ATI Radeon 2400 Pro which I know is very outdated, but I
• In general, the above software says that an OpenGL enabled graphics card or chipset is required and that any recent NVIDIA GeForce and ATI Radeon cards should be sufficient but that GeForce® 8400 series or ATI® X1600 are the minimum requirements.
I don’t really understand what Open GL is very well, only that programs such as Poser make use of it. After trying to research it online a bit, I still don’t really know but from observations in poser it seems to aid in the real-time rendering of shadows and lighting in the preview window, I believe it is also more closely tied to the graphics/video card than relying on the CPU but I could be way off.
I also recently heard about Open CL which, someone advised me may be more important than open GL when it comes to renders, as far as I an understand, it seems to be a code that offers better utilization of multiple cores to enable multiple commands to run more smoothly in concert but again, I don’t know for sure.
I also hear other terms like APU, GPU, overclocking, 4K System and CUDA Which I tried researching but really know nothing about.
I have heard that something called a Quadro Card is supposed to be good for renders but according to this thread: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94364

That may not necessarily always be the case and may not be worth the high price tag unless you are an architect.
I had a look at the NVIDIA and ATI sites and it seems that there are 2 categories of Cards at ATI (I don’t understand what Chipset is) so based on category it looks like the best for a Workstation under Media and Entertainment would be AMD FirePro™ W9100 since it has the highest version number and Radeon™ R9 Series for Desktops but I don’t really understand the difference, would a desktop be primarily used for gaming and a Workstation used for Designing?
Although these are the top cards available atm, assuming I’m correct, it may be better to go for the next one down as latest builds are often more unstable than those that have been out for at least 1 year. I don’t know if theses are too high end though, I can’t find the X1600 anywhere on the site so I don’t know how different these cards are, only that they are more recent.
At he NVidia Site, the closest category to graphics/video cards I could find was Processors and I’m not sure if that is the right one but assuming it is, I guess the Titan series may be best for desktop builds, possibly the GeForce GTX TITAN X and the Quadro series would be best for workstations? (not a clue which one though and as previously stated, a Quadro may not be needed in this case.)
The Tesla, Tegra, NVIDIA GRID, NVS and Legacy categories don't appear to be applicable to me but I could be mistaken.
I don’t mind paying for a top of the range, $1000 or $2000 card if I need it but I would not want to spend unnecessarily and would happily get a $500 card if it would suit my needs better.


Monitor:

I currently have a monitor with a resolution of 1680 X 1050 32 Bit Colour and find it sufficient so don’t see the point in upgrading to a lager one for the new PC but I will if I have to. I will be keeping my current PC and was hoping to have both monitors side by side.
CPU:
Generally the system requirements for the programs seem to be a 64-bit Intel® or AMD® multi-core processor. Pentium D or newer (or equivalent such as AMD Athlon 64 X2 or newer) with optional multithreading or hyperthreading capabilities. • Intel® Core™ 2 or AMD Athlon™ II Processor (or better) Intel Pentium 4
Athlon 64. •
I don’t really understand most of that but through research it seems the more cores one has at their disposal, the more operations or programs can be run or used simultaneously without much issue, I feel a quad core would be best as my current system is a Dual core and feels a bit slow but I have heard some people using 8 cores so I really don’t know what would be best in this case, I will quite possibly be running 1 or 2 modelling programs, internet, an image editing program and a video editor at the same time if possible so any advice you could offer would be appreciated. I prefer to multi-task to save time but my current system can’t always handle it.
Seems the recommendation is a min requirement of 1.3 GHz Pentium 4 or newer, Athlon 64 or newer (1.65 GHz or faster recommended), my current system is a Dell Inspiron Intel Cor Duo CPU 2.66 GHz so I guess anything better than my current build as this already seems to meet the requirements, despite it being 8 or 9 years old, possibly older as the version is listed as 2002.

I will be getting a Graphics Tablet but not sure which kind, only that a
Wacom seems to be the basic recommendation.

My current computer is also quite loud while rendering so anything to help reduce the noise without impacting performance would be a help, any recommendations or advice?
I think this covers everything, if I have left anything out please let me know.

Congratulations for reading all that, you should get a reward lol, I thank you all for your time and any advice you can offer to me.:)
 
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For 3D Modelling and Animation rigging Videoediting & Rendering, try this.


CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor - $994.99

Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler - $99.89

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste - $6.98

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard - $220.99

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory - $309.99

Primary Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - $249.99

Secondary Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $123.89

Additional Backup Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $123.89

Video Card: PNY Quadro K4200 4GB Video Card - $959.99 CAD

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case - $128.99

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 900W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply - $128.75

Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer - $54.89


Base Total: $2443.24
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00


Total After Rebates: $2423.24

PC Part Picker Link:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YfwWLk

Price Breakdown:

https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/by_merchant/
 

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Thanks to you both for your advice and thorough research. I has the same concerns regarding the necessary components required of these programs. I am looking to build a PC to handle just about every program mentioned. And a special thanks to senseijtitus for the two different breakdowns. I modified the list in pcpartpicker for that first option. I thought going with intel would be better based on my research.

Anywho, this is what I put together based on my preferences and priorities:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LzttYJ

Thoughts and comments are welcome, since I will start putting in orders for these pieces this week.
 

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You are most welcome buddy. As a 3D animation enthuziast I knoe how demanding these rigs could be. I am happy to be of help you you. The parts there are pretty good. I specially like the case you chose. Make sure you add some additional case fans for better air flow if some of its vents are free for it. That's it. Its good to go.
 

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Hi, I apologize for my late response, just been very busy here and had some set backs. Thank you for your reply Senseijtitus, I am glad that your advice has been of help to JSick and I appreciate the recomendations you have given. I see that you have suggested an Nvidia Quadro Video Card though, did you read the post here: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94364 which I linked to in my message and read my concerns regarding the Quadro and FirePro video cards? I have heard that if one uses then when it is unessisary they can burn out or become less effective quie quickly, have you heard much about this before? Also I may not have mentioned it before but I am in Australia, were those estimates you provided in USD or AUD?
 

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I was looking at the Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard you recommended but according to this site http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128751 it seems fraught with problems, a friend of mine that I recently found out is also doing one of the courses I am planning to do has recommended I try the motherboard he is currently using which is the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard and while it also has some issues according to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512 , they seem far less frequent than the former. I will likely go with the ASRock if it is compatible with all the other components as I do not need to deal with booting problems from day one, unless anyone else has any other suggestions? Thanks again.
 

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Lol apparently the the ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard is incompatible with the G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory as it has 288-pin and the Moherboard only accepts 240-pin DIMM form factor RAM, whtever that means...

This is why I am reluctant to go with a Gigabyte Motherboard:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-x99-haswell-e-overclocking,3934-5.html
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-2011-3-CrossFireX-Motherboards-GA-X99-UD4/dp/B00MPIDNN6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128751
(read the reviews on the page)
 

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After looking at the specs for my friend's computer and comparing them to those suggested by Senseijtitus, I have a bit of a hybrid setup, still incomplete though and not sure if all the components are compatible with eachother:

My friend's current PC Build:

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K

Cooler: Aerocoll Air Force Blue LED Fan

Thermal copound: unknown

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-Pro4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL11Q-15GBXL 16GB (4x4GB)

Primary Storage: seagate barracuda 2tb st2000dm001

Secondary Storage: corsair force series LX 256GB SSD

Additional Backup Storage: None that I know of.

Video Card: Saphire Radeon R9 290X Tri-X OC 4GB

Case: Aerocool Strike-X Advance White

Power Suply: Aerocool Strike-X 1100W

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST 24x DVD Writer


My incomplete Build:

CPU: (Unsure, I tried a side by side comparison but still feel lost, the i7-5960X is an 8-Core but has .50 less GHz while the i7-4790K only has 4 Cores but it seems to have the upper hand in GHz and appears to have more features and versatility.)
http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/82930/Intel-Core-i7-5960X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-20M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (looks good as long as the liquid really does no need replacing or priming.)

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste (heard that silver or any metal may not be the best but sick of researching and making little progress by this point lol, unless anyone has other suggestions, I will keep it.)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-Pro4 Motherboard (seems more stable than the alternative)

Primary Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (seems to be one of the best so thanks for suggesting it)

Secondary Storage: Western Digital Black Series 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Additional Backup:Western Digital Black Series 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Had no issues with WD Drives in the past.)

Video Card: Undecided, still researching

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (seems to offer more space, fans and ports than the alternative.)

Power Supply: Aerocool Strike-X 1100W
http://www.aerocool.com.tw/index.php/strike-x/power-supply/45-power-supply/strike-x8/361-strike-x-1100w-information
(The Aerocool appears to be better as it is Gold Certified and claims to support 1100W, the reviews have been mixed though.)
 
Here's a list for you to use as reference with some additions recommended by myself. Please feel free to change as you see fit. Any questions please feel free to ask. Listed for AUD prices and outlets. Cheers!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($459.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($190.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($255.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($169.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($169.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($539.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($199.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($279.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($135.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $2621.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-19 19:01 AEST+1000
 

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Sorry for the late response. was not able to send any message to you because of network problems I was facing at home.

Intel-Core-i7-5960X would be a better option for the software you are going to use since it has 16 threads which would be used by Rendering and Animation or video editing software fully.

And my suggestion about the Pro card was just that. A suggestion. Unless you are going to use any architectural designing programs, A Consumer card would be more than enough. However, Graphic cards are good for games and not even 50% used for rendering. They have a part to play when it comes to ray tracing. Coz they can calculate the rate of light rays bouncing out of the 3D models much quicker than a CPU core can. But major portion is handled by the CPU. So you can go with a consumer card as well. But make sure with one that has good number of CUDA cores. Yes NVidia would be preferred.

I did not checked into the site you mentioned and reviewed comments in it. It was also a new learning experience for me as well.

Please share any such threads you may come across in the future so that we can also learn more about them.
 

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Sorry for the late response. was not able to send any message to you because of network problems I was facing at home.

Intel-Core-i7-5960X would be a better option for the software you are going to use since it has 16 threads which would be used by Rendering and Animation or video editing software fully.

And my suggestion about the Pro card was just that. A suggestion. Unless you are going to use any architectural designing programs, A Consumer card would be more than enough. However, Graphic cards are good for games and not even 50% used for rendering. They have a part to play when it comes to ray tracing. Coz they can calculate the rate of light rays bouncing out of the 3D models much quicker than a CPU core can. But major portion is handled by the CPU. So you can go with a consumer card as well. But make sure with one that has good number of CUDA cores. Yes NVidia would be preferred.

I did not checked into the site you mentioned and reviewed comments in it. It was also a new learning experience for me as well.

Please share any such threads you may come across in the future so that we can also learn more about them.


And the Price list was in USD. I apologize for the mistake.
 

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Hi, I apologize for the late reply, been very busy here and have had internet trouble. Thank you Archaic59 and Senseijtitus for your replies and advice.

As you have both replied to me regarding different matters, I will split my reply into two parts to make it easier for you to see who I am referring to but feel free to read both if you prefer.

Senseijtitus:

Ok guess I should stick with the Intel-Core-i7-5960X then if possible, thank you for the information but it seems the Intel-Core-i7-5960X is incompatible with both the ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 and the ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboards.
Should I change Motherboards or try a different CPU?


You mentioned that the video card used needs to have CUDA cores, I’m not entirely certain what those are but it seems they are exclusive to Nvidia, is this correct? If so I will have to look at an alternative to the Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card, Recommended by Archaic59 and the Saphire Radeon R9 290X Tri-X OC 4GB my friend recommended, preferably not a Quadro though as the price is very high and based on your reply and my research, it seems unnecessary for my requirements. Why are CUDA cores required out of interest?

You said "I did not checked into the site you mentioned and reviewed comments in it. It was also a new learning experience for me as well.

Please share any such threads you may come across in the future so that we can also learn more about them”

I posted a fair few links lol, are you referring to the 3 links relating to the Gigabyte Motherboard Issues? If not, could you please let me know which you were referring to so I know for future reference?


Archaic59:

The cooler you recommended appears to be quite good but unfortunately according to http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/heatsinks/42795-cryorig-h5-universal-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=3 there seems to be an issue regarding a high pitched sound emitted at high speeds, which is something I am trying to avoid. I was going to stick with the Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler if it is compatible.


I would prefer to stick with the motherboard my friend recommended as he has encountered no issues with it thus far but I see you recommended the ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard over the ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard, could you tell me the reason or the main difference between them? I have tried comparing them but don’t really understand which is better and I understand that the motherboard is often what makes or breaks a good PC.

Thank you for recommending the EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply, It has a higher certification but I would prefer to keep the Aerocool Strike-X 1100W as it sounds as though I will need the extra 100W or do you believe that would not make much difference?


Both:

Regarding the memory, could either of you please tell me the main difference between having two 8 GB and having four 4 GB, is there any noticeable benefit one way or the other or is it simply a packaging concern?

Both the Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" and Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drives look great and appear to have favourable reviews by customers. Aside from the 512GB costing more I noticed that it also had higher GB/$1.00, Price/GB, as well as info about an SSD Controller and NAND Flash Type that was omitted on the other drive’s page.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7ke512bw

I thought that GB/$1.00 meant an estimate of how much each GB cost per dollar of the Price tag but that would vary depending on store and then why have Price/GB as well? Do either of you have any idea what the above terms mean or why they seem to be of importance?

Thank you both for your continued assistance and understanding.
 
Hi PCNov1ce,

- I recommended the air cooler simply as an alternative to liquid cooling, should you decide you don't want liquid. The Corsair H100i is a good product many people use with great success.

- A "K" cpu, such as the i7-4790K, has an unlocked multiplier and can be overclocked. It requires a Z97 board for overclock, as H97 cannot perform this feature. Either board will work just fine, but you lose the ability to overclock by choosing the H97 board.

- The EVGA P2 is a "tier 1" PSU, made by Superflower and is arguably the best in the world and has a 10 year warranty. The Aerocool strike-X is a "tier 4" PSU, a much lower quality power supply, and not even comparable to the EVGA. ref.-http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Please read the difference between the different tiers. This will help you to make a more informed choice.

- Using 4x4 memory sticks leaves no open slots to upgrade later if you find it necessary. 2x8 gives you that option and also puts a bit less stress on the memory controller.

- The SSD "wars" between companies with comparable specs leave pricing and warranty as the major difference, hence the price per gigabyte listing on them to help you determine value. It's also illustrates the price difference between SSD and regular hard drives when comparing them. The Samsung 850 EVO has a 5 year warranty and the 850 PRO has 10 year with its' new 3D V-nand.

- When building a new system, the first consideration is the CPU. It will decide the overall system capabilities and it must be determined first in order to have the information necessary to select a proper motherboard.

 

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Always start with the CPU. This will list our all the compatible components on the following lines. CPU should be the first selection to know aht else do you need to accommodate the best suited match for your needs.

 

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Hi, I must apologize again for not getting back to you sooner, been very busy here, unexpected delays and setbacks. Thank you both for your replies and for helping to clarify a few points for me, I can see how using the CPU as a starting point can make the selection process much easier and the information you both provided was a help as well, thank you.

I have compiled a list of the components I am planning to get but had some further questions if that is alright?

Firstly, here is the current component list:


Monitor: ASUS VG248QE (144Hz) 24" 1ms HDMI Full HD Gaming LED Monitor with Speaker
SKU# AB48987 | Model# VG248QE

$449.00

(After some quick research this seems to be a good choice for my needs, just researching the different screentypes regarding glare and viewing angle still.)



Video Card: ASUS Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card
SKU# AB64127 | Model# R9390-DC2-8GD5
$539.00

Memory: G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3 2400MHz Desktop Memory F3-2400C10D-16GTX
SKU# AA65882 | Model# F3-2400C10D-16GTX
$199.00

CPU: Intel Core i7 5960X Extreme Haswell-E 8-Core LGA 2011-3 3.0GHz CPU Processor
SKU# AB56567 | Model# BX80648I75960X
$1,499.00

Primary Storage: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB 2.5" SATA III SSD MZ-7KE512BW
SKU# AB56430 | Model# MZ-7KE512BW
$369.00

Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D Air Flow Edition Full Tower Case
SKU# AB63904 | Model# CC-9011078-WW
$219.00


Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Gram Tube
SKU# AA17298 | Model# THP-AS
$11.00


Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W P2 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply
SKU# AB54109 | Model# 220-P2-1000-XR
$329.00

Additional Storage: 2X WD WD2003FZEX 2TB Black 3.5” 7200RPM SATA3 Hard Drive
SKU# AB52821 | Model# WD2003FZEX
$384.00 ($192.00 each)

Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i Liquid CPU Cooler
SKU# AB47746 | Model# CW-9060009-WW
$159.00

I have excluded the Operating System as I am still trying to research the differences between Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 Professional.

I have also excluded the DVD writer/reader as the recommended one is currently unavailable and am trying to decide between the ASUS DRW-24D3ST 24x Internal OEM DVD Burner Drive and the LG GH24NSC0 24x Internal DVD-RW - OEM.

http://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-drw24d3st-24x-internal-oem-dvd-burner-drive-ab49180#detailTabs=tabOverview

http://www.mwave.com.au/product/lg-gh24nsc0-24x-internal-dvdrw-oem-ab60128#detailTabs=tabOverview

I am presently leaning toward the Asus as it is supposed to be more energy efficient but I don't like the 10GB Memory requirement, any thoughts?


According to pcpartpicker.com, apparently no motherboards are compatible with the Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor so I will stick with the ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard, I would just hate to order all the components and then find the motherboard will not work with the CPU, are you certain that the only compatibility issue is in regards to overclocking?

This excerpt also has me a bit concerned “LGA 2011-3 and LGA 2011 are neither compatible nor interchangeable.
Thus if upgrading to an LGA 2011-3 motherboard, you will need to buy an LGA 2011-3 CPU; If you want to use a LGA 2011-3 CPU in a LGA 2011 motherboard then that will not work.

http://www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i7-5960x-extreme-haswelle-8core-lga-20113-30ghz-cpu-processor-ab56567

Now I know that the H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has LGA 1150 but the above quote is making reference to LGA 2011 and LGA 2011-3 so do you think this still applies or should I not be concerned?

With all the other components taken into account, do you believe that the Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Gram Tube is unnecessary now or should I still get it?

Senseijtitus, you mentioned that Nvidia cards would be preferred, but I have been unable to find any compatible cards listed on pcpartpicker.com, do you think the ASUS Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card that Archaic59 recommended should be sufficient or should I look at an alternative instead? Also I still don’t understand what CUDA cores are or how to tell if the Card has them, could either of you elaborate at all please?

Thank you both once again for your time and assistance.






 

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The Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card is currently out of stock at Mwaves anyway so I may have to look at an alternative, do you think the MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card Would be ok? http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9390gaming8g

I tried looking again at Nvidia but could still find no compatible 8 GB Cards listed on pcpartpicker. If I need to switch to a different video card in the future, can it be done without replacing other components out of interest?

After Midnight here now so going to try to get some sleep, bye for now.
 

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For the 17 5th generation processor, LGA2011-3 is the native socket so LGA 1150 will not work with this CPU.

Try ASUS X99-E WS LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 CEB Form Factor Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132263R&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Intel+Motherboards-_-N82E16813132263R&gclid=CPWArJSW78YCFVGAaQod3GoBBA&gclsrc=aw.ds

ASUS Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card that Archaic59 should be sufficient for your needs.

CUDA Core is a parallel computing platform and application programming interface (API) model created by NVIDIA. It allows software developers to use a CUDA-enabled graphics processing unit (GPU) for general purpose processing – an approach known as GPGPU. This API is usually used for assistance in rendering Game engine graphics but is also used for assistance with some 3D rendering engines for rendering 3D scenes like Ray Trace.

AMD cards employ there own name for this like Streem cores or Streem processes. if I remember correctly. Every NVidia GTX card had CUDA cores and some GT series also have them in them.

All AMD cards have Streem processes.


 

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Hi Senseijtitus, thank you for your quick response, the stats do seem to indicate that the ASUS X99-E WS LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 CEB Form Factor Intel Motherboard you recommended is an improvement on the ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard I was going to use before but it looks as thought the ASUS X99-E does not have 8 RAM sockets, will this be a problem if I am using the G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3 2400MHz or should it not cause an issue? How many RAM sockets are required or is that only a concern if one wishes to add more RAM later?

As I said previously, unfortunately the ASUS Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card that Archaic59 recommended is currently unavailable from Mwaves, (said I can preorder?) would the MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card be a viable alternative or is it not as good? http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9390gaming8g

Do you still believe that the Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Gram Tube is necessary or do I no longer need it?

Thanks again.
 

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ASUS X99-E WS LGA 2011-v3 mobo has 8x 288pin Ram slots which you can use to install the 2x 8GB RAM modules.

It supports upto 64GB of RAM on that Mobo.

MSI Radeon R9 390 is also a good alternative to the Asus GPU.

Arctic59 thermal compound is not a necessary thing if your CPU cooler comes with the thermal paste under the heat sink. Most liquid coolers and aitr coolers like 212Evo comes with pre applied thermal paste on them.

 

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Hi, thanks for your reply, I will keep the Motherboard and Thermal compound then but I need to get an alternate Video Card, my friend recommended the Sapphire Radeon R9 380 Nitro OC 4GB Video Card as he said that the 8 GB would only be required if one is networking multiple monitors off of the one card, which I will not be doing lol. I have decided to choose the LG DVD drive as it has a 1 year warranty, more reviews and is well known brand, though please feel free to let me know if you think this is a mistake.

So this is what I hope to be my final component list for this build:


CPU: Intel Core i7 5960X Extreme Haswell-E 8-Core LGA 2011-3 3.0GHz CPU Processor
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i7-5960x-extreme-haswelle-8core-lga-20113-30ghz-cpu-processor-ab56567

Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-hydro-series-h100i-liquid-cpu-cooler-ab47746

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Gram Tube
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/arctic-silver-5-thermal-compound-35-gram-tube-aa17298

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 Intel LGA 2011-3 ATX Motherboard
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/asrock-x99-extreme3-intel-lga-20113-atx-motherboard-ab56623

Memory: G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3 2400MHz Desktop Memory F3-2400C10D-16GTX
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/gskill-tridentx-16gb-2x-8gb-ddr3-2400mhz-desktop-memory-f32400c10d16gtx-aa65882

Primary Storage: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB 2.5" SATA III SSD MZ-7KE512BW
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/samsung-850-pro-512gb-25-sata-iii-ssd-mz7ke512bw-ab56430

Secondary Storage: WD WD2003FZEX 2TB Black 3.5” 7200RPM SATA3 Hard Drive
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/wd-wd2003fzex-2tb-black-35-7200rpm-sata3-hard-drive-ab52821

Additional Backup Storage: WD WD2003FZEX 2TB Black 3.5” 7200RPM SATA3 Hard Drive
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/wd-wd2003fzex-2tb-black-35-7200rpm-sata3-hard-drive-ab52821

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 Nitro OC 4GB Video Card
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sapphire-radeon-r9-380-nitro-oc-4gb-video-card-ab64105

Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D Air Flow Edition Full Tower Case
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-obsidian-750d-air-flow-edition-full-tower-case-ab63904

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W P2 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/evga-supernova-1000w-p2-80-plus-platinum-modular-power-supply-ab54109

Monitor: ASUS VG248QE (144Hz) 24" 1ms HDMI Full HD Gaming LED Monitor with Speaker
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-vg248qe-144hz-24-1ms-hdmi-full-hd-gaming-led-monitor-with-speaker-ab48987

Optical Drive:
LG GH24NSC0 24x Internal DVD-RW - OEM
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/lg-gh24nsc0-24x-internal-dvdrw-oem-ab60128

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/microsoft-windows-81-64bit-ab52155

Webcam: Anyview Hawkeye 12.0MP Webcam with Headset
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/anyview-hawkeye-120mp-webcam-with-headset-aa08994

Please let me know if you notice any incompatibilities with any of the components or feel that a component is not as good as I have been led to believe. Thank you again for your help.
 

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The parts you have selected seems good to me. Go for it. Makes a very good editing and animation + gaming rig.
 
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