New build: Well balanced GPU for i5-4690K? A GTX 960?

PaulMakesThings

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So I've recently moved to Palo Alto, and though I don't get a lot of time for gaming being near a fry's has given me a nudge to upgrade my 5 year old PC (except the GPU which is 2 years old).

I saw a good deal on a i5-4690K, and since that was Tom's recommendation for high end but before the price break I picked it up yesterday, seeing how LGA 1150 motherboards are abundant, I'll pick up a good one soon. I also got an 8GB pair 1866MHz DDR3 (Viper if the brand matters to anyone).

I'm watching for a good mother board. But I'm thinking about the GPU. The one I have is a (pasting the description) Sapphire Radeon HD7950 3G DDR5 w/Boost PCIE. It's hard to compare this to the newest cards since it falls on different charts. The clock rate and memory haven't changed that much in the newer ones from what I can see, though the memory speed has. Is this card a major bottleneck with this processor?

I saw that the 970 GTX was a pick in the best GPU for the money list, currently a EVGA GTX 960 FTW 4GB is on sale at the same place where I got the CPU. Looking at them side by side I see the boost clock is the same as the 970, so is the memory clock and amount. Fewer cuda cores on the 960 though (1024 VS 1664) and the base clock is a little slower on the 970. Not sure how different they really are when it comes to smooth FPS on GTAV or Battlefield.

Basically as with the CPU I chose, I'm going for good performance without hitting the sharp diminishing returns.

So in case my main questions got lost in the length of this post. How bottle-necked is my new CPU (i5-4690K) with my old GPU (Radeon HD7950 3G)? Is a GTX 960 FTW 4GB a good balance for this CPU? Is the 960 much worse than the 970 and is $245 for it a good deal? And while I'm at it, when I look for motherboards is there anything I need to look out for? I notice some LGA1150 boards say "4th gen" and some do not, I would like to be able to upgrade my CPU in the same mobo later if there is a way to plan for that. But I will get into details of the mother boards later, because I'm already at a fairly long post here.

Other details since I noticed some in the "how to ask about GPUs" sticky:
-I have a 1440x900 monitor, wont be going 4k in the near future
-I do plan to overclock the CPU, I have a kraken x40 on my old one that will fit the new one
-I do not plan to put the video cards in SLI in the near future, I will probably pick a mobo that supports it in case I want to later, I'm not concerned about keeping it compact
-the old one CPU is a Phenom II X2 550 - I didn't consider this crucial information because it's being replaced either way, but if anyone can comment on how big of a bottle neck that was for a HD7950 3G video card, I am curious

Thank you for any info.
 

clutchc

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Your i5 can run with any card you can afford. The GTX 960 is probably in the same league as your HD 7950.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

But at 1440x900, you will get better performance than if you were gaming at the more common 1920x1080 (1080p). If you can't get the GTX 970 or R9-290/290X, stay with the card you have now. It should be perfect for maxing out games at 1440x900.

Yes, the old PhII dual core was a major bottleneck for the HD-7950. You will be pleasantly surprised at how much "faster" your HD-7950 is once it is paired with a CPU that can let it run at full speed.
 

PaulMakesThings

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Thank you very much for the reassurance. Thinking of what you said, for now maybe I'll just put in the new motherboard, processor and memory. It seems like they may be decently matched (for anyone not wanting to back track, this would mean building with CPU: i5-4690K, GPU: HD-7950 3GB, RAM:2x4GB DDR3 1866). I just wanted to be sure I wouldn't be wasting the new processor on an older GPU, but then, looking at the charts my more recently upgraded GPU seems to still be ok. It seems more like I was wasting the GPU on an old processor. I actually was just looking at the charts since my first post and I noticed that the GPU I was asking about and my present one fall close to each other, for example on Bioshock Infinite at 1080P the GTX 960 pulls ahead of the HD7950 from 75 fps to the 76 to 79 range. Not worth $300 to me. I should note that is a 2GB 960, because they don't show a 4 GB one like the deal I'm eyeing is on, maybe that would perform closer to the 970 4GB.

I may upgrade to a 1080P screen soon, not just for the added resolution but because the color and evenness of lighting on my current monitor are kind of muddy, for lack of the proper terms. Chances are the next monitor I pick out will be 1080p just due to its commonness.

Thanks again!
 

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