Thinking of a new Video Card, but is a new Motherboard needed?

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Hello, all.

First off, I want to say how helpful this site and the forums have been to me. I've gotten lots of answers from here for a long time. Very helpful and insightful people.

Ok, so I have a rig I built myself a few years ago. I'm no expert, but have enough knowledge to follow instructions on how to build a PC, but I need advice on my next issue.

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I have a Radeon HD6950 video card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372) that I've had since the beginning on this rig. I'd never had problems with it, and have very good performance from it playing some games. (Ultra settings, for example, at good FPS). However, I never installed any AMD Software on this PC, to maximize the use of the card and use other features. So I tried to install the Catalyst software from AMD's website, and had problems installing it. I had to uninstall drivers, re-install them, try Catalyst again, but it always failed to install.

Then, my PC began to freeze up and show other symptoms that I hadn't ever had before. Such issues with trying to install software form the manufacturer was just quite ridiculous to me.(I ultimately got the driver installed again, sans the Catalyst software, which at that point was irrelevant, if I couldn't at least get the drivers for the card to work.)

That got me thinking that maybe I should get a new video card.

I had always been a fan of NVidia, but I decided for an AMD when I built this rig because it seemed from what I gathered during that time, that AMD was a more serious brand for gaming. I did some research, compared products and ultimately bought the HD6950.

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Ok, so now I'm thinking of buying an NVidia video card that is comparable or better than what I have now, but at a decent price. I've seen some GeForce GTX 750 cards out there for about $140. Other GeForce cards that have better performance (and also higher prices) too. (I need help with the NVidia video card tiers too).

But those cards are for PCIe 3.0 x16. My motherboard is an Asus Sabertooth P67 LGA1155 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702), that has 2 PCIe 2.0 x16 slots where my video cards is.

I've read some threads on here where most people say that there is no significant drop in performance in using a PCIe 3.0 card in a PCIe 2.0 slot.

However, my question, more specifically, is this: If I were to buy a video card (PCIe 3.0) that has better performance than what I have now, but use it in a PCIe 2.0 slot, will I get performance close to what the new card would be, or would I get pretty much a similar performance from what I have now, due to the 2.0 interface? Is it worth the money to get a new card, even though I won't be using it at an optimum setting (3.0 card in a 3.0 slot, vs 3.0 card in 2.0 slot)?

Or will my performance increase because the new video card would be better? Or do you recommend I get a new 3.0 card along with a 3.0 motherboard to maximize performance? (I really don't have the funds to get both, however... so that's why I ask if I could get away with a performance increase from a better (newer) 3.0 card in the 2.0 slot.

Sorry to sound like a noob, which I mostly am. Haha.

(Also, if anyone knows about the current tiers of NVidia cards, and which one they'd recommend based on what I have now, I'd appreciate it.)

So, to sum up / TL;DR

-I want a new (and better) video card (NVidia, PCIe 3.0), but I have PCIe 2.0 slots on my MB.
-Will I get overall better performance from the card, even from a 2.0 slot? or
-Will I have to get a new MB to get better performance from the new card?
-I'd rather avoid a new MB if I can.

Could I get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487028

And use it on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702

And still get better performance than that MB with this (which is what I currently have): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372

Or which card do you guys recommend? Price to not exceed $250 or so.

Thanks for the time, everyone. Sorry for the long post. I like to be thorough.

Any advice is truly appreciated.

-HP

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Forgot to post my specs:

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz
AMD Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1000 1000W PSU
Western Digital Black 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
 
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Hm, you have a 6950 but you can't crossfire it with 280x due to 6950 using an older core design.

AMD Cards have plenty of models, the 280/x are the sweetspot ones.

You could try selling the 6950 and getting Nvidia GTX 970 for example. It's priced around 350$ right now but it does indeed kick ass, another great bang for buck card like the 280/x, just at a higher price point

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You won't see a loss in performance, Pcie 2.0 still has plenty of bandwith and it will work fine.
nVidia GPU's:
750Ti - sort of entry model, should run everything medium/high at 1080p
960 - good 1080p perofrmance, mostly 50fps in high/ultra settings
970 - high performance 1080p/alright 1440p, kicks ass at 1080p, its a great bang for buck card, but also has a hefty price tag
980 - strong card, not much of a bang for buck, but it works great up to 1440p, still not capable of good 4k
980Ti - Slightly cut down Titan X, monster of a card
Titan X - Currently the strongest single core GPU on the market, not very price efficient, could say it's overpriced when you compare it to 980Ti
 

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For 250$, I'd go with AMD 280x, but if you want Nvidia, take the 960, but my personal advice is to go with AMD, at that price point, its stronger than Nvidia.
What is your PSU model and wattage?
280x consumes more power than 960, but it wont make much of a differance on your power bill, it won't wreck it or anything.
 

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Sorry about the lack of specs. I just updated the original post with them.

My PSU is a Rosewill Lightning 1000w. The first one I bought died on me one day, but I got a replacement fast and free from Rosewill. The replacement unit (new one too) has not given me any issues what so ever, after about 3 years using it.

And thanks for posting the explanation on the NVidia cards. I'll also take a look at the 280x you recommended.
 

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I took a 280 over 960
and Im super happy, 280 is about equal to 960, 280x is better than 960 in most cases.
It has 3 GB of VRAM which is great today since even at 1080p games can use a lot more than 2GB and 960 has 2GB and a smaller bus size.

More than enough wattage, you can crossfire two 280x with a wattage like that form such a good brand.
 

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Hm, you have a 6950 but you can't crossfire it with 280x due to 6950 using an older core design.

AMD Cards have plenty of models, the 280/x are the sweetspot ones.

You could try selling the 6950 and getting Nvidia GTX 970 for example. It's priced around 350$ right now but it does indeed kick ass, another great bang for buck card like the 280/x, just at a higher price point
 
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Hey, sorry for not replying in a couple days. Been really busy.

Yeah, I've been looking at all the cards right now. Both AMD and NVidia. Funny you should say a GTX 970, because that's the one that I've been eying right now. Not in my initial budget, but I think it makes the most sense to invest in.

Thanks for all your feedback! Much appreciated. =]