High - End Graphics card, low FPS!

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

My PC :
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9950 2.83 GHz
GPU : Gigabyte GTX 960 G1 Gaming Edition 2 GB
RAM : 6 GBs
Motherboard : Gigabyte G41
PSU : 500 Watt

So the problem is that when I play games, I get very low FPS on lowest setting with this graphics card, games like Watch Dogs, Grand Theft Auto V, etc...
I don't know why is my FPS going too low whilst I have that strong card, anybody please help?

turkey3_scratch · Jun 8, 2015

Your CPU is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too weak.

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

+1 for gutless CPU

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

Core 2 Quad is weak? I asked before if there will be any bottlenecks and people replied it's fine for this GPU. I used to run the same games on another GPU : Nvidia GTX 650 2 GB and games would work fine on medium settings.

turkey3_scratch · Jun 8, 2015

Logic669 :

It is too weak for newer games. Clocked at 2.88Ghz, with much lower IPC that the modern-day CPUs, and having only 2 cores 2 threads, it is not fit for the newest games especially considering all those games you mentioned are very CPU intense. I'm not sure who told you it's a fine match because it's not unless you're playing games that are 4 years old.

But now that you say you used to run the games with another GPU with better performance it boggles my mind. So I guess it ain't the CPU.

barto · Jun 8, 2015

Logic669 :

Can you post the link to the thread?

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

The way the GPU communicates with the CPU changed when Intel bought out the i series processors. i series CPU's have direct access to the GPU without going through a northbridge which makes them a shit ton faster. So your Q9950 (Extreme Series) while QC is seriously limited by the FSB speed of the old boards compared to the QPI link on a modern CPU/Mobo

4745454b · Jun 8, 2015

You either have a phenom I 9950 which is horrible, or an Intel 9550 which is better. You've said it's an Intel 9950 twice now so I'm not sure what you have.

having only 2 cores 2 threads

Those would be the C2D. He has a C2Q (Or a Phenom I which wouldn't change the answer.) which is a true quad core. 4c/4t. If possible, try OCing the CPU up above 3.4GHz or so. The closer to 4GHz the better. I'm worried about your PSU however as "500W" doesn't tell us a lot. Have you done the normal check for virus, heat, etc?

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

Here's the thread :
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2674273/gpu-power-bottlenecks.html

My PSU is MediaTech 500 W (ATX-500)

4745454b · Jun 8, 2015

Here is the CPU benchmarks for Watch dogs that Toms did.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-performance,3833-8.html

Notice the i3-2330 is on the bottom of the chart. It's faster then your CPU. It doesn't even come close to breaking the 60FPS mark. It can barely do 30FPS. You'd need an i5 or 83xx chip for that. Newer games really need a new system.

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

So I should get a new CPU as well... I'll buy an I3 or an I5, but will it fit in my Gigabyte G41 motherboard?

barto · Jun 8, 2015

Sorry to that someone lead you astray but there's definitely some bottleneck and possible PSU deficiency.

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

nah you would definitely need a new motherboard, and possibly new RAM if you currently have DDR2

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

My MB is DDR3, will I have to buy a new MB?...
If yes, which one should I buy? an H61?

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

yeah, get a mobo and CPU should be able to pick up a cheap one. Try get Sandy bridge or higher (2nd Gen i series - SKUs are 4 digits long and start with 2 e.g. i3-2120) 1st gen would work too but the single threaded performance is not too hot on the 1st gen.

don't buy a HP/Dell etc branded one from a PC though - they have propriety bits on there that make them useless without the PSU that comes with them (which is usually a POS)

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

What's available now is an H61, will it do the job or will I need better?

turkey3_scratch · Jun 8, 2015

barto :

But why would it perform worse that with his old GPU?

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

will do the job

H series means no thrills - 2 DDR slots probably no SATA 3 or USB 3 on that board either but not important if you only have 2 DIMMs and no SSD

Logic669 · Jun 8, 2015

Anybody knows a good Motherboard that's DDR3 and relatively cheap? (And will supports Core I5 processors

)

RimStain · Jun 8, 2015

Logic669 :

your looking at second hand so you cant just say get x motherboard. you need to see what is available and ensure it will be compatible with the CPU you want.

Otherwise go and get a new H81 or B85 board and a 4th gen i3/i5 CPU

Logic669 · Jun 9, 2015

I kindda don't understand what's the difference between 1st gen, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc... Could you please explain?

RobCrezz · Jun 9, 2015

I would try another PSU, it looks like you replaced the old PSU with another crap PSU. Get a good brand model.

barto · Jun 9, 2015

turkey3_scratch :

Could be power draw. Could be drivers.

I've read similar situations a couple times on the forums where people put new GPUs in older systems. I typically just mark for reading and don't respond because I have yet to figure out why this happens.

turkey3_scratch · Jun 9, 2015

barto :

I was thinking drivers, too. Perhaps a fresh install of the OS is best.

dragonowl · Jun 11, 2015

"Watch Dogs" you might play but will be freezing up and lag . Processor is fast for the minimum requirements. The video card is good also. The RAMs I would get more to 8 or 10 GB. "Grand Theft Auto V" the CPU has the right video, processor, and RAMS to run it but that is okay for the minimum requirements. You may get some lag to play GTA. I would get a Intel Core i5 3470 @ 3.2GHZ or an AMD X8 FX-8350 @ 4GHZ to get best out of GTA game. Also more RAMs at least 10 GB. Also the more RAMs you have the better faster your CPU will run. How the HDD space? Anytime you are not sure about your CPU system being able to handle a game look at the Minimum System Requirement and the Recommended System Requirements: on the game box or on the web. Then compare what you have on your system with both the Minimum System Requirements and the Recommended System Requirements. Also how much RAM space is available after the background programs. You can see how much percent by opening the task manager.

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