best network layout for remote holiday park with bufallo AirStation AC 1750 (1300 + 450 Mbps) Gigabit Dual Band DD-WRT Wi

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needhelpcjj

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Hello,
I wondered if you could help me please?
Our computer problem is this:

We have satellite internet, with about 15Gb of peak time access per month.
The satellite router? is plugged in to an Apple AirPort, which provides Wi-Fi in the office and house -a new Apple Airport Extreme wireless router, and is in turn connected to a signal booster and access point, which beams the signal about 150 yds. to the new house for guests, via a panel aerial.

At the house guest, there is another access point that provides Wi-Fi_there. we have a TP-Link TL-WA901ND 300 Mbps wireless N access point.

What we would like, is to be able to supply that house guests at a throttled back speed, so that they cannot access YouTube or videos and also to be able to provide guest accounts to the cottage tenants with a similar access restriction.
What keeps happening is that the tenants eat our data allowance, which makes operating our website and email all but impossible until a new month comes around and we get more data.

The way they are now-layout:
In the office is a new Apple Airport Extreme wireless router.

Hardwired into that is an Edimax EW 7228APN 2BCE 00461 wireless range extender/access point, which feeds a signal booster and a panel aerial.

House guests, we have a TP-Link TL-WA901ND 300 Mbps wireless N access point.

In a bag in the office, we also have an Edimax EW-7415PDN wireless 802.11N access point with POE (but no QOS capabilities).

I would prefer to go all Apple, but understand that a different solution might be better for our needs. (as the ones we have now,Apple and Edimax have no dd-wrt Qos options)

I just want to keep it simple and buy something that already has the required capabilities-DD-wrt QOS.
I was thinking of buying a new router Bufallo BUFFALO AirStation AC 1750 (1300 + 450 Mbps) Gigabit Dual Band Open Source DD-WRT Wireless Router - WZR-1750DHPD and if I am to replace the Apple and edimax products, what would there be and how do I put everything together so they are compatible? I would need a router for the office with dd-wrt_Qos so I can set up QOS for guests, a wireless range extender and an AP/ with POE.
Could you please help? Look forward to hearing your suggestions.Thank you.

 
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Check out capabilities of an ASUS RT-AC68U

It handles guest accounts with throttling, time of day, etc. and its very powerful (adjustable)


PS.. it's a bit pricy but I love mine.

PPS... If you are on Exede... be careful of usage... they add it up quick and data includes EVERYTHING including signaling such as RTS,CTS, check sum...everything counts against you with them.
 
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ddwrt is the way to go, do not know about pre-installed ones since I have always done it myself. I would guess the features are the same.

The bad new is loading the firmware is actually the easy part. If you can get by with what is in the menus then it has many more features than you average router. For what you want to do I suspect you will be deep down in internals. Most the function you want to do is controlled by a command called IPTABLES. I am sure the person who wrote this thought banging his head on the wall was a enjoyable thing to do so he wrote this command to emulate his favorite activity.

It can be done and it is actually pretty easy if you have simplistic requirements so the menus can generate the iptables commands. If you get lucky you can get it close with the menu and then just edit it a bit.

In any case this device needs to go directly in front of the satellite device so all traffic must pass though it. Your physical layout of radios and cables will likely not change a lot if it works for you. You might put different devices on different vlans to make grouping users easier. Problem is if you would have 2 different groups remote from this router then all the equipment in between would also have to support dd-wrt.

 
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Thank you all for your help, which router is better ? the assus mentioned by tigsounds or the other router Bufallo BUFFALO AirStation AC 1750? bill001g, you said "the physical layout of radios and cables will likely not change a lot if it works for you" and it does but my question is if they would be compatible, are we to replace the Apple and edimax products, what would there be and how do I put everything together? And if so, what would those products be?
Thank you very much for your help bill001g and tigsounds. it is greatly appreciated. Look forward to hearing your suggestions.
 
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The good thing about standards is everything pretty much is compatible especially since the ethernet and wireless standards are very old ...well at least for tech stuff.

Better is almost impossible to define. The key with router is to remember there are only 2-3 manufactures of wireless chipsets. Device using the same chips will perform very similar. If you really want to find out what is in these boxes it is all at the FCC site since they must file all kinds of information to get a FCC id that allows them to sell the equipment in the USA and the EU.

Pretty much there is not a huge difference in things like radio coverage/signal levels. All the manufactures have learned the tricks and all are pretty close to the upper power limit allowed by the FCC. Pretty much the only difference are in software features and if you go with a dd-wrt router then that does not matter. There was a router they were selling in the dollar store for $7.99 not sure I would trust that one.

If you are looking for ideas on outdoor equipment you can look at engenious or ubiquiti. You tend to get better results with ethernet connected bridges than putting external antenna on repeaters. Still if you have a design that works then stay with it since if you would get faster connection to the remote users they could just eat your satellite connection even faster.

Your main challenge appears to be content filtering and dd-wrt can help with that but you still have to do the hard work of listing all the stuff you want to block. Large companies pay big money for a service that loads into firewalls so they can do content filtering(ie porn filters). These have catagories like streaming video, file sharing etc etc and you just click boxes. Unfortunately the monthly license cost is way out of reach of even a mid sized business.

I suspect you just need to block some of the large ones and most your problems will go away. Still the video sites are the most common people want to use so you may get some complaints.
 
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