AMD 9590 CPU Upgrade Query

tpsmith · Jun 18, 2015

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to upgrading PC's and thought it would be a good idea to get some advice before upgrading my CPU.

My current build is about 2 years old (other than the GPU):
PDU = Corsair CX500 (500W)
Motherboard = MSI 760GM-p23 (fx) (MSI 7641)
CPU = AMD FX4100 (Quad core)
GPU = NVIDIA GTX 970
RAM = 8GB
HDD = Seagate 1TB SATA

I'm looking at upgrading to an AMD FX9590 Black Edition (8 core) but I'm not sure if my current motherboard will be able to handle this as it is quite a leap from my current CPU. Is a new moherboard going to be necessary?

As well as this I believe my PDU should be able to handle it, I think the GPU needs around 140W and the new CPU 220W, but I'm not dead sure what the other components will need. Should I be thinking about changing this as well?

Any advice that you could give would be greatly appreciated.

If you need any other details please let me know.

Many thanks,

Tom.

junkeymonkey · Jun 18, 2015

look at your boards cpu support list at
msi .. if the chip is not listed its not supported . that easy - only a hand full of boards support 220w I don't think yours will

''Warning: This MB doesn’t support 200W or above CPU.''

http://us.msi.com/support/mb/760GM-P23-FX.html#support-cpu

game junky · Jun 18, 2015

JM is correct - I would look at an FX-8370 combined with a 990FX motherboard. You can overclock with a stable air or water cooler without having to replace your power supply.

Eximo · Jun 18, 2015

Power supply is woefully inadequate for running an FX-9590 as well.

They are a waste of money anyway. Cheaper to just get an FX-8320 and overclock it.

Regardless, for this drastic of an upgrade, I would go ahead and switch to Intel.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $359.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-18 16:07 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($261.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme9 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $421.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-18 16:09 EDT-0400

DubbleClick · Jun 18, 2015

Not to mention you need at least a H100i to cool a fx 9590. Also, 220w isn't the power draw but the thermal design power. A fx 9590 can very well draw 400 watts. Amd themselves recommend at least a 1000w psu for it (ok, 750w quality psu would be enough with a single gpu).

Eximo · Jun 18, 2015

DubbleClick :

That price is the kit with the water cooler.

Most builds I see have an 850W or higher supply. And GPUs can have some serious spikes as well. CX500 is a fine supply for your average user. Overclocking and high end gaming, not so much.

LookItsRain · Jun 18, 2015

The 9590 is overpriced junk, if you want to spend that much money, go intel or buy an 8320 and a good cooler and overclock that.

tpsmith · Jun 19, 2015

Thanks everyone for your replies. I've taken a look at the support list for my motherboard and it looks like the best cpu possible without switching are the fx8320E.

I'll do some more research into this but I think either going for a 990fx and fx8320 (or 8350) or switching to Intel are the best options.

DubbleClick · Jun 19, 2015

The board isn't suited for a fx 8350 either. But that aside, why did you get a gtx 970 if you want to cripple it with a fx cpu?

tpsmith · Jun 19, 2015

A 990fx motherboard should be able to handle it though?

I wasn't aware that all fx cpus would cripple it. I was under the impression that, as long as the cpu was powerful enough, an amd or Intel would suffice. That being said if it is really the case that Intel will get much better performance out of the 970 then I would be prepared to switch. Only thought of amd as that is my current setup.

RobCrezz · Jun 19, 2015

Switch to Intel, the FX cpus are all getting old now.

junkeymonkey · Jun 19, 2015

ya, amd am3+ is what made me go intel for my first time ever .. cant say it was the wrong move ..

DubbleClick · Jun 19, 2015

tpsmith :

Yes, a 990fx board would handle it.

You're right, as long as the cpu is powerful enough, amd or intel doesn't matter. It just happens that amd has not released new cpus for 4 years - nothing strong enough for todays standards.

tpsmith · Jun 19, 2015

Thanks for the information on amd. I didn't realise that they hadn't released any for a while. If that's the case then I'll most likely switch to Intel (this is the first system I've had which used amd). Obviously it'll depend on my system but typically would the ram chip need replacing when switching between amd and Intel?

RobCrezz · Jun 19, 2015

No, you can use your DDR3 ram on the intel platform (unless you go for the Super high end X99 platform which is using new DDR4, but this is a lot more money).

junkeymonkey · Jun 19, 2015

when I move to intel from am3+ [z87] all I replaced was the board and the chip - all the rest from the am3+ build just transferred over. just do a clean os install on your hard drive

DubbleClick · Jun 19, 2015

If your main usage is gaming and you don't need a whole lot of motherboard ports an I5 4460/4590 on a B85 board won't cost you more than $250 and give great results.

tpsmith · Jun 19, 2015

Ok fantastic, thank you all for the advice on this. My main use would be gaming so that doesn't sound far off the mark.

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