Insight on gaming PC build? First time building entirely new PC

kusillo

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Hello friends, I'm hoping I can get some advice from more experienced Gaming PC builders out there on the build I'm planning on assembling, before I start buying parts this week.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jc26ZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jc26ZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ B&H)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.89 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($127.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.88 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Prolimatech PRO-RV14LED 87.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-200mm LED 103.0 CFM 200mm Fan ($18.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Accessory: NZXT Hue LED Controller ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1871.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-19 16:09 EDT-0400

I also plan on getting one of these monitors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-CrossOver-2795QHD-2560x1440-LG-AH-IPS-Non-Glare-27-Monitor-/321719207934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7f587fe

My goals are playing recent and upcoming games at 60fps or greater on 1440p while maxing or near maxing game settings. 4k gaming for me is overkill as a first upgrade, maybe I'll reconsider when it becomes the standard. I'm just tired of trying to run games at low settings with horrible inconsistent frame-rates on my aging toaster. This will be the first time I am building a new setup entirely from scratch and on my own, as before I would mainly buy/play games on my Xbox360 (friends irl) and although I considered buying the new generation consoles, I've decided I would make the transition from console pleb to the all glorious PC Master Race - Hail Gabe Newell of House Valve, first of his IGN, King of the Overclocks, the Watercooled and LED Lighting, Khal of the Great Summer Sales, Breaker of Wallets, and Father of Custom Towers.

I've come into some disposable income, but I won't be buying all the components in one fell swoop as I'll want a little money for a few games (why upgrade to only run League -_-) I'll be getting near everything on the PC Parts list at first,
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bgFpYJ
and later buying the replacement Monitor. Then, I will buy the LED Fans, Hue controller, second GPU and second set of 8gigs RAM, at which point I will overclock, all over the next month or so.
It would also be great if y'all could recommend a good surge protector, most likely will not invest in an uninterruptible power supply.

I assembled this after doing a bunch of research on components and I think it's a pretty good build plan, but what do I know, I'm new. I expect everything, including shipping costs to fall at/under 1500 initially, 1800ish with the monitor, and at/under 2300 with the completed tower (just a quick guess). All in US dollars and shipping to the West Coast. I don't plan on and don't need to always run everything at max settings, so I think this build will last me a good long time, at least, until 4k becomes standard and prices don't require you to sacrifice your male heirs, or what makes you male, to the white walkers.

So, do you notice any crippling flaws in my design, senpai?
I mean, it's not like I want you to help me not fuck myself over with a bad setup, b-baka.
 

Woody1999

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Hoooold your horses. R9 Fury X is being released on Wednesday. If you can stretch to afford one of those, you will have the most powerful graphics card on the market. It will retail at only $649, so slightly more than a 980Ti.

Is there a chance you can wait a little, save up some more and get the Fury X?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($127.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.88 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ Directron)
Case Accessory: NZXT Hue LED Controller ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: R9 Fury X 4GB HBM ($649.00)
Total: $1742.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-19 17:31 EDT-0400

Woody
 

raihan4

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You don't need 16GBs of RAM for gaming, 8GB is more than adequate. Also, i'd recommend against buying 2 970s at first. Get a single best GPU you can right now and SLI later would be a better option. Also, do you plan on overclocking?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1665.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-19 17:35 EDT-0400
 

kusillo

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I guess I could save up and wait on the R9 Fury X, but I'd have to see more benchmarks to finalize a decision, although it doesn't seem the Fury X is leaps and bounds ahead than the GTX 980 Ti. Would I really need the most powerful GPU for 1440p gaming though? What would heating and power draw be for that setup? Doesn't the Fury X come with 4gigs as opposed to 980Ti's 6? I'm kind of shying away from amd on account of nvidia having better driver support.
 

raihan4

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Some benchmarks would say that the 980Ti is faster, some say otherwise. Heating issues depends on the card, really. It's silicon lottery, atleast for me. A lot of people claims that AMD tends to be hotter though, but again, that depends on the card. If you want to wait for the Fury X then go for it. I personally would go for anything that feels right for me (in your case, nVidia). Good luck!
 

kusillo

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I agree that 8GBs RAM seems fine. I was overshooting just in case, hence the upgrading the next 8GBs later on (if I felt I needed it) After some research and thought you do bring up the good point of getting the single GPU over the 2 way SLI at the same pricepoint/performance as the better option. This would mean me saving up some more before buying components, although I'm going to wait for Fury X benchmarks and drivers anyway. The GTX 980 Ti after some research definitely seems like a great card for future proofing on a 2 way sli whenever I decide to upgrade to 4k gaming.
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-gtx-980-ti-2-way-sli-nearly-doubles-performance-at-4k/
Maybe invest in a hybrid cooling kit when I do so that I'm not worrying about overheating on a card (maybe both if case allows?)
I do plan on overclocking, and I've had friends run into trouble with AMD cards so I'm wary of buying into team red. Kind of a shame as I'm not entirely comfortable supporting nVidia on account of the whole GameWorks debacle. Thx for the feedback
 

Woody1999

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The RAM is completely different. 4GB of HBM will perform better at higher resolutions than 6GB of GDDR5, due to the vastly increased memory bandwidth.

I really think AMD are going to pull something really good out of the hat with this one.

Woody
 

kusillo

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oh ok. Man every time i get a response I have to spend a couple hours doing some more research XD. How do you think the Fury X might scale in 2 way Crossfire? Assuming I upgrade to 4k or buy into VR in a fit of unrestrained nerdgasming, do you think 2x Crossfire on the Fury X will perform as well as the GTX 980 Ti SLI is said to do so?
http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-gtx-980-ti-2-way-sli-crushing-performance/
Also what would the release of Directx 12 Vulkan do for the performance of either card in dual setup?
HBM2, Pascal seem to be getting real close to release/being used (?) in GPU's, should dual Fury X's not hold up to dual 980 Ti's, wouldn't it be better to skip the HBM1 gen cards and upgrade later when HBM2 is used efficiently and games made with it in mind?
I don't entirely understand all the tech specs yet, what is the gain to be had from HBM1 over GDDR5 in dual setup, and HBM2 over HBM1?
I think I'll be running a dual GPU setup for some time instead of chasing the best single GPU release after release. Maybe these questions are ridiculous, I'm just trying to avoid backing myself into a corner whenever I get a second card if a better alternative was present with the competing card.
 

bsod1

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The few benchmarks that are out there do not paint a great picture for AMD. I would stick with NVIDIA even though I own AMD cards myself. This would be my purchase.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($125.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SOC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($104.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.88 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($21.70 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($21.70 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer K272HULbmiidp 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($329.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $2173.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-20 18:13 EDT-0400

 

kusillo

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The Fury X being among the first line of cards running on HBM1 seems great, but if HBM2 is as great a leap as it's being lauded to be, it seems to me that the best, reliable performance for flagship pricepoint card to have now is the 980 Ti. That is until new mobos and CPU's roll around that will allow full utilization of HBM2, if like perhaps PCIe 3.0 is a bottleneck. Maybe an entirely new build will be needed for HBM2 and on gen cards/supported games. That won't be the case for some time though still, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYOi5k2rNKs
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/363712-nvidia-pascal-officially-called-pk100-and-pk104-w-hbm2/
http://www.redgamingtech.com/nvidia-hints-at-technology-in-pascal-hbm2-massive-performance-gains/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1554868/kitguru-nvidia-pascal-officially-called-pk100-and-pk104-w-hbm2
http://wccftech.com/amd-greenland-gpus-feature-hbm2-14nm-coming-2016/