what's your opinion: asus maximus VII hero with 8gb ram OR asus maximus VII ranger with 16gb ram ?

Abdallahmgz · Jun 19, 2015

i will not overclock
i will just play some games and photoshop and of course browsing
also i want the future proof option

Ezo Legendz · Jun 19, 2015

I have the Ranger and its a great motherboard the Hero is better and more future proof. You can always just upgrade the ram but upgrading a mobo is hard af bcuz of new windows and stuff so go with the Hero and 8 gb of ram 2 sticks of 4GB so you can run dual channel tho

MarkW · Jun 19, 2015

No such thing as future proofed. Never will be. The computer industry is constantly creating new things and replacing old things.

If you buy a motherboard and CPU now, the next time you want to update your CPU, you will need to also buy a new motherboard again. Intel, later this year, will be switching from the 1150 socket to the 1151 socket. AMD on the other hand next year will be releasing a Zen CPU/APU, and all of those will use a new AM4 socket.

So your future proof idea just flies out the door if you buy something right now.

Now, I read up on both motherboards. They are almost clones of each other. So if you can afford to put 16GB on the asus maximus VII ranger, get that one.

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 19, 2015

If you are not going to overclock, both of those motherboards are overkill. You won't need motherboard like them if you are not overclocking.

Any regular H97/Z97 motherboard will be fine. Then you can take the 16GB VRAM.

Ezo Legendz · Jun 19, 2015

MarkW :

Mark i strongly disagree if our buddy here wants to stick with what he buys for 4 years a motherboard with 8 SATA ports is better than a motherboard with 6 SATA ports

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 19, 2015

Ezo Legendz :

But would he really be even running more than 6 SATA appliances? Probably he won't be running even 4.
So it does not matter how many SATA ports there is when barely half of them will be used.

Also, as Mark said: no such thing as future-proof. Only future-compatible.
Depending of his cpu and gpu, he is future-compatible for 3-4 years.

Speaking of which: what cpu and gpu you have, OP?

Ezo Legendz · Jun 19, 2015

Sapphire Thunder :

Games are getting bigger and over time if you download lots of game your HDD will fill up and not everyone buys 6TB HDD so if he buys like a 1TB every year has 2 SSD's and 1 Optical drive thats 7 and maybe another SSD thats 8

Eximo · Jun 19, 2015

Well, at that point you do just install larger drives and remove the smaller ones and re-purpose them.

Also things like SATA controllers can always be added for more expansion options.

MarkW · Jun 19, 2015

I've been in this business for 35 years. I have never used more than 3 hard drives and 2 optical drives in a single PC. In a server, yes. This guy is not setting up a server.

So what the heck would you need 8 SATA ports for? 1 SSD, maybe 2 hard drives, and maybe an optical drive. Nothing this guy talks about says to me that he would ever need more than 6 SATA ports.

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 19, 2015

Ezo Legendz :

No one would be buying 2 SSDs unless they are going for something extreme.
The SSD would just be upgraded to newer, bigger one later.
Optical drive may be used, but they are dying and barely needed. Can install everything with USB stick.

At most it is:

1 optical drive
1 SSD
2 HDD.

1TB HDD is more than enough for games and by the time games are too big, he would be upgrading anyway.
Right now biggest games will take 100Gb. That's only 10% of 1Tb. I doubt OP would be installing 10 of such games, not to mention there isn't even that many games which will take that much (without mods).
Also in 3-4 years, the game sizes won't grow THAT much. At most, after 4 years, biggest game will take 150GB.

Abdallahmgz · Jun 19, 2015

Sapphire Thunder :

Ezo Legendz :

But would he really be even running more than 6 SATA appliances? Probably he won't be running even 4.
So it does not matter how many SATA ports there is when barely half of them will be used.
Also, as Mark said: no such thing as future-proof. Only future-compatible.
Depending of his cpu and gpu, he is future-compatible for 3-4 years.

Speaking of which: what cpu and gpu you have, OP?

i7 4790k
gtx 760

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 19, 2015

Abdallahmgz :

4790k but not overclocking?
That's a waste too.

You will do fine with regular H97 or Z97 motherboard.
Maximus motherboards are for overclockers.
Regular Z97 would be enough yet make it possible to do some overclocking when you decide so.
If you already have such motherboard, then just buy RAM and new gpu.

Ezo Legendz · Jun 19, 2015

Abdallahmgz :

Sapphire Thunder :

i7 4790k
gtx 760

That is a bad CPU GPU combo get an i5 4690k get the Ranger and 8 GB of ram and spend the rest on a gtx 970

Ezo Legendz · Jun 19, 2015

You guys are right about the sata ports - Sorry for the bad advice OP

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 19, 2015

Ezo Legendz :

I think he already has those. And is just upgrading the motherboard and RAM.
So it would be too late to change them.

Abdallahmgz · Jun 19, 2015

the i7 4790k is overkill i know that the gpu is SH#TTY but i will change this later like in 1 year
i will buy the 980i
now, about my question i just will go with booth instead 16gb ram and vii hero

MarkW · Jun 19, 2015

In a year, there will be much more powerful video cards on the market than the 980ti. So wait for those to come out, and see what you think then.

You want to see powerful? AMD R9 FURY X driving Dirt Rally at 12k video (4K x 3) @ 60 FPS!!
http://www.legitreviews.com/12k-gaming-with-one-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card_166585

Tradesman1 · Jun 20, 2015

I'd go the Ranger/16GB, might even give thought to the Asus Z97-A or their Pro Gamer, both great boards also

Sapphire Thunder · Jun 20, 2015

MarkW :

3x 4K does NOT equal 12K. It doesn't work that way.

That makes 11520x2160.
12k would be 11520x6480

That setup is closer to 6.5k.

11520x2160 = 24883200 pixels
6400x3600 = 23040000 pixels

Abdallahmgz · Jun 20, 2015

Tradesman1 :

what about the deluxe ?

MarkW · Jun 20, 2015

Deluxe is also a good motherboard for you. In fact, the system I built before this one had an Asus Deluxe motherboard in it, and it was a great system.

Tradesman1 · Jun 20, 2015

If going above the Ranger/gaming Pro I'd look to the Hero or Pro first the Deluxe is a very good mobo also, check the features list and see if the higher end mobos have something you Need

Abdallahmgz · Jun 20, 2015

Tradesman1 :

what is better the Hero or the deluxe ?

MarkW · Jun 20, 2015

Both are really nice motherboards. The ROG boards are more focused on people that want to overclock. The deluxe still allows for overclocking, but does not have the special red/color coloring, and some of the overclocking features. If you are not going to overclock, go with the Deluxe.

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